wingedwheelpod : gavrikov , byram , other dman options | HFBoards - NHL Message Board and Forum for National Hockey League
Toggle sidebar

wingedwheelpod : gavrikov , byram , other dman options

no podcasts with real wings media ppl and not just basement podcast folks right?

Daniela Bruce should do a podcast with max bultman or something,reminds me she had one with art regnar no? Is that guy ok?Haven’t seen him in forever
 
Bultman is a regular contributor to the WWP. As is Ken Daniels. The WWP guys put in regular events co-sponsored by the Wings and/or Griffins. They are as plugged in as you can get as a fan-run podcast. Some of their personal opinions are off the wall, but they rarely toss random bullshit rumors out there.
 
  • Like
Reactions: izlez, Konnan511, cvaicunas and 5 others
norrisnick said:
Bultman is a regular contributor to the WWP. As is Ken Daniels. The WWP guys put in regular events co-sponsored by the Wings and/or Griffins. They are as plugged in as you can get as a fan-run podcast. Some of their personal opinions are off the wall, but they rarely toss random bullshit rumors out there.
Click to expand...
I’d personally like to see more ppl in the wings local media doing stuff. Don’t agree with a lot of stuff that valenti guy says but I’d watch him taking calls from fans but I can’t find the live stream

Anyways like I said and just my opinion I’d like to see more local guys in the media doing stuff
 
  • Like
Reactions: jkutswings
wingsfannnn9191 said:
I’d personally like to see more ppl in the wings local media doing stuff. Don’t agree with a lot of stuff that valenti guy says but I’d watch him taking calls from fans but I can’t find the live stream

Anyways like I said and just my opinion I’d like to see more local guys in the media doing stuff
Click to expand...
Appreciate Valenti as a (college) football guy, knows a lot. But he has hardly any hockey knowledge. Was complaining already 2yrs ago about the rebuild, cuz he thinks hockey is football, where you can just retool and draft 3rd rounders, who contribute in their second yr in the league.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SirloinUB
norrisnick said:
Bultman is a regular contributor to the WWP. As is Ken Daniels. The WWP guys put in regular events co-sponsored by the Wings and/or Griffins. They are as plugged in as you can get as a fan-run podcast. Some of their personal opinions are off the wall, but they rarely toss random bullshit rumors out there.
Click to expand...

Brad Krysko’s opinions are off the wall. Evan and Ryan are pretty level headed.
 
  • Like
Reactions: izlez, Konnan511 and Henkka
Winged Wheel Willy said:
Appreciate Valenti as a (college) football guy, knows a lot. But he has hardly any hockey knowledge. Was complaining already 2yrs ago about the rebuild, cuz he thinks hockey is football, where you can just retool and draft 3rd rounders, who contribute in their second yr in the league.
Click to expand...
That’s why I said I don’t agree with a lot of stuff he says but I still watch his wings clips and when I saw him taking calls from fans I wanted to watcH more but can’t find his full streams

But ya he’s way off with the rebuild and thinks prospects show up 2 yrs later. Yzerman took over with literally larkin Rasmussen Berggren that was left for him. All the drafting he’s done is about to pay off next year or 2
 
  • Like
Reactions: Winged Wheel Willy
wingsfannnn9191 said:
All the drafting he’s done is about to pay off next year or 2
Click to expand...
Seider will finally have the partner he needs, the penalty kill will stop impersonating Weekend at Bernie's, the offense will hit another gear, and the team will no longer wilt in the face of adversity...

...all due to some middle six forwards and depth defensemen?

I can't wait to see this magic trick!
 
jkutswings said:
Seider will finally have the partner he needs, the penalty kill will stop impersonating Weekend at Bernie's, the offense will hit another gear, and the team will no longer wilt in the face of adversity...

...all due to some middle six forwards and depth defensemen?

I can't wait to see this magic trick!
Click to expand...
Nice one ... he’ll clearly be adding through Ufa and trades as well but funny I recall a lot of ppl shitting on the Kasper drafting as well ... looking pretty good now huh?

Have some faith nygard will be a top 6 menace on opposing teams and pellikka won’t be a “depth” defensemen

Regardless I’m sure you’ll just come here and pretend you had faith all along
 
  • Like
Reactions: Henkka
wingsfannnn9191 said:
Nice one ... he’ll clearly be adding through Ufa and trades as well but funny I recall a lot of ppl shitting on the Kasper drafting as well ... looking pretty good now huh?

Have some faith nygard will be a top 6 menace on opposing teams and pellikka won’t be a “depth” defensemen

Regardless I’m sure you’ll just come here and pretend you had faith all along
Click to expand...
I've repeatedly given Yzerman kudos for his first round picks. I'm just tired of the scrub players he keeps adding in free agency. There's a lot of room in between going all in prematurely and repeatedly adding lousy plugs.

If this summer he makes an impactful trade or ponies up for a better quality of UFA, I'll say it's a good move. But if he keeps bargain bin shopping to tread water for yet another year or two, I'll keep saying that's bad decision making.
 
jkutswings said:
I've repeatedly given Yzerman kudos for his first round picks. I'm just tired of the scrub players he keeps adding in free agency. There's a lot of room in between going all in prematurely and repeatedly adding lousy plugs.
Click to expand...
jkutswings said:
If this summer he makes an impactful trade or ponies up for a better quality of UFA, I'll say it's a good move. But if he keeps bargain bin shopping to tread water for yet another year or two, I'll keep saying that's bad decision making.
Click to expand...

Usually those "plugs" have been best possible guys at the current market. Like Tarasenko was best UFA left on 2nd July and he signed with us. We had the cap space so why not? There was nobody better on the market, and at same time, there was no kid to handle this role.

Yzerman also could not predict Tarasenko's father die only 11 days after the signing, which did hurt his off-season training.

Biggest UFAs have maybe ignored Red Wings, because Yzerman does not want to give much term to UFAs. He likes to keep those deals short, because on the future, it's prospects who are gonna take those spots soon, but which are not ready short-term. You are not gonna block them with 7-year deal. You do that only for a superstar in a possible situation like Marner.

The plan is pretty clear how he sees the overall roster building and estimated development. All will match with the timelines. Chiarot is gone, when Edvinsson is gonna get the role and big 2nd contract etc. It was always built like that. MBN takes the slot from Tarasenko etc. etc.

It's almost funny, how the UFA signings will match with the current 1st round picks.

2024 - will draft MBN - scoring winger - will sign UFA Tarasenko to hold this spot
2023 - will draft Pellikka - skill defenceman - will sign UFA Gostisbehere to hold this spot, later extended for Gustafsson.
2023 - will draft Danielson - defensive Center - will sign UFA Compher to hold this spot
2022 - will draft Kasper - physical Center - will sign Copp to hold this spot
2021 - will draft Edvinsson - big defenceman - will sign Chiarot to hold this spot.

Seider and Raymond are the only expections, who were just promoted to a crap team in big roles. There was no UFA-matching, we were just missing too much talent and still tanking.

The list goes on. It has been a nice surprise, how fast Kasper did develop and both Copp and him are now good to have on team. Kasper will learn from Copp, who is natural "player-coach" type of personality. When you look on the timelining, Copp deal will end at same time as Kasper ELC will end. So the money is transferred between them for the roster hierarchy. Same for Chiarot-Edvinsson etc.

That's the Yzerplan, and it's very clear to understand. Those deals are matched to die away when the prospect ELC will end, and when those kids have earned a raise.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: SantosHalper
jkutswings said:
I've repeatedly given Yzerman kudos for his first round picks. I'm just tired of the scrub players he keeps adding in free agency. There's a lot of room in between going all in prematurely and repeatedly adding lousy plugs.

If this summer he makes an impactful trade or ponies up for a better quality of UFA, I'll say it's a good move. But if he keeps bargain bin shopping to tread water for yet another year or two, I'll keep saying that's bad decision making.
Click to expand...

Ehh... In theory, but I think it's an over simplification.

Team building isn't an NHL video game. 31 other teams are competing for the talent, UFAs have their own priorities, dreams and aspirations. And that doesn't even touch on why the hell a better player would have wanted to come to Detroit over the last 5 years.

I also, think we're not privy to everything he's attempted. Someone recently brought up the reports that he went after Carlo at the TDL and got outbid. It was widely reported he wanted Stamkos last summer. I'd be shocked if there weren't similar attempts for other players. I'd bet money he checked in on Rantanen.

You can want these kinds of moves but life isn't that simple.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

  • ... and 1 more.
    • Total: 8 (members: 7, guests: 1)

    Latest posts

    Ad

    Ad

    Top Bottom