Windsor Spitfires 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II

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Burchell as a ref tonight. Put on your seatbelts, should be quite the ride!
Well that’s an understatement. We had two periods of them letting everything go and then started calling the most ridiculous stuff in the third. I still don’t think Belchetz made direct head contact. Calling Christoforo for unsportsmanlike at the start of a 5 minute major for talking? (I’d imagine if it was that bad, he’d be getting a couple games) Nesbitt has the puck pinned and Carlisle comes in for nothing but a cross check high, and Nesbitt leaves with the instigator, and Winegards solo man roughing for… screening the goalie on the powerplay? Then Cloutier who’s been a bit chippy all game (whatever that’s hockey) gives Lemieux a healthy cross check, and they yank Lemeiux for diving?

Spits look dominant. Killed 7 minutes straight, with the front 2 of it being 5-on-3. Joey had to make some nerve wracking saves at the end, but almost cost us two trying to play the puck, so that makes up for it. Doubled their shots, in their barn, and shut em out 4-0.

Easy to go back to Joey tomorrow, but I say let’s see what Newlove’s got. Soo will come out angry, but a couple quicks could get that game sloppy quick. I say keep in Winegard tomorrow and find a way to squeeze in Gaymes as well, Soo can’t handle the size and strength we have.
 
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Well that’s an understatement. We had two periods of them letting everything go and then started calling the most ridiculous stuff in the third. I still don’t think Belchetz made direct head contact. Calling Christoforo for unsportsmanlike at the start of a 5 minute major for talking? (I’d imagine if it was that bad, he’d be getting a couple games) Nesbitt has the puck pinned and Carlisle comes in for nothing but a cross check high, and Nesbitt leaves with the instigator, and Winegards solo man roughing for… screening the goalie on the powerplay? Then Cloutier who’s been a bit chippy all game (whatever that’s hockey) gives Lemieux a healthy cross check, and they yank Lemeiux for diving?

Spits look dominant. Killed 7 minutes straight, with the front 2 of it being 5-on-3. Joey had to make some nerve wracking saves at the end, but almost cost us two trying to play the puck, so that makes up for it. Doubled their shots, in their barn, and shut em out 4-0.

Easy to go back to Joey tomorrow, but I say let’s see what Newlove’s got. Soo will come out angry, but a couple quicks could get that game sloppy quick. I say keep in Winegard tomorrow and find a way to squeeze in Gaymes as well, Soo can’t handle the size and strength we have.
Nice to get the 1st of 2 in the win column, expecting Belchetz to sit tomorrow, so Gaymes should be installed into the lineup replacing him,I would keep Winegard in the lineup as well as u suggested.
As for the goaltending I would go with Joey again for a couple of reasons,1 if u get a shutout u deserve the next start,2 facing only 20 shots tonight not alot of work,fatigue should be a non factor and 3,we had Windbiel dress for 2 and 1 was against Guelph and he didn't get the start,so I am just treating the 2 Newlove and Windbiel the same watch and learn,down the road perhaps both an opportunity just not tomorrow take the 2 game series,one would think Hounds come out looking for a win.
Should have mentioned re Joey,his last 4 starts he has allowed 4 goals and faced only 88 shots (22 ave per) plus having the week off because of Christmas fatigue shouldn't be a factor.
Should also mention Costanzo has allowed only 2 goals in his last 3 starts.
 
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Well that’s an understatement. We had two periods of them letting everything go and then started calling the most ridiculous stuff in the third. I still don’t think Belchetz made direct head contact. Calling Christoforo for unsportsmanlike at the start of a 5 minute major for talking? (I’d imagine if it was that bad, he’d be getting a couple games) Nesbitt has the puck pinned and Carlisle comes in for nothing but a cross check high, and Nesbitt leaves with the instigator, and Winegards solo man roughing for… screening the goalie on the powerplay? Then Cloutier who’s been a bit chippy all game (whatever that’s hockey) gives Lemieux a healthy cross check, and they yank Lemeiux for diving?

Spits look dominant. Killed 7 minutes straight, with the front 2 of it being 5-on-3. Joey had to make some nerve wracking saves at the end, but almost cost us two trying to play the puck, so that makes up for it. Doubled their shots, in their barn, and shut em out 4-0.

Easy to go back to Joey tomorrow, but I say let’s see what Newlove’s got. Soo will come out angry, but a couple quicks could get that game sloppy quick. I say keep in Winegard tomorrow and find a way to squeeze in Gaymes as well, Soo can’t handle the size and strength we have.
Christoforo got a penalty for firing a shot at the goaltender after being called offside. That's what I thought watching it live anyways.

I agree that Burchell was awful. Abraham almost tore Solomon's arm off before the latter broke free and somehow got a penalty for it. Then the same thing happens again a few minutes later and there was no call. I couldn't believe the incompetence on that one.

Give an Oscar to Hicks on that "high stick" call as well.

That's not to say there weren't bad calls the other way either, but those ones stood out. Burchell is always an embarrassment.

The Hounds were extremely short handed and couldn't even dress a full roster, so I wouldn't read too much into the 'dominance'. I like your team a lot and they play a great game, though.
 
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Christoforo got a penalty for firing a shot at the goaltender after being called offside. That's what I thought watching it live anyways.

I agree that Burchell was awful. Abraham almost tore Solomon's arm off before the latter broke free and somehow got a penalty for it. Then the same thing happens again a few minutes later and there was no call. I couldn't believe the incompetence on that one.

Give an Oscar to Hicks on that "high stick" call as well.

That's not to say there weren't bad calls the other way either, but those ones stood out. Burchell is always an embarrassment.

The Hounds were extremely short handed and couldn't even dress a full roster, so I wouldn't read too much into the 'dominance'. I like your team a lot and they play a great game, though.
Agree, classic Abraham antics, surprised on everything they only took one on that one.

Christoforo and Cloutier were chirping at eachother from the faceoff on. Walters questioned the call for talking, and refs confirmed it.

I missed the high stick completely, I hate how much every player embellishes high sticks these days, but then if you don’t swing your head back and arms up, you could lose some teeth and the refs would somehow miss it.

Not saying the Spits are a dominant team in the O, although the more I look at the standings, the better we look. However, tonight, against a depleted hounds squad, Spits looked dominant enough to test out a rookie goalie tomorrow IMO.

Only reason I don’t want Joey tomorrow, is the quick turn around to Tuesday game vs Flint, who is now 2nd in the West division.
 
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Interesting Spits goaltender Joey Costanzo recorded his 3rd shutout of the season for Windsor tonight vs the Hounds, now 2nd in league in that category Parsons for Kitchener has 4.
Should be noted before this season Costanzo had 1 career shutout to his credit and it wasn't last year,it was his 1st year here,so 1st 3 years in the league 1 shutout,this year 3 and half the season just completed impressive imo.
 

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Interesting Spits goaltender Joey Costanzo recorded his 3rd shutout of the season for Windsor tonight vs the Hounds, now 2nd in league in that category Parsons for Kitchener has 4.
Should be noted before this season Costanzo had 1 career shutout to his credit and it wasn't last year,it was his 1st year here,so 1st 3 years in the league 1 shutout,this year 3 and half the season just completed impressive imo.
He would be a strong candidate for most improved player if the league had that kind of award.
 
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Going by that angle, it looks like shoulder and Belchetz's size is what caused most of the momentum damage. I'm watching it over and over again, trying to see a head hit and... I'm not seeing it. Maybe he gets a game but I'm kind of baffled on this one.
He would be a strong candidate for most improved player if the league had that kind of award.

They have the OHL Coaches Poll Most Improved for Western Conference. You could actually see Costanzo and Cristoforo get into that; both are honestly deserving.

As for tonight - Windsor's top guys did what they needed to. I'm sure the Hounds will respond tomorrow in some fashion. They're not going to want to lose both games at home, and definitely not want to be shutout again.
 

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Maybe just these old eyes but I saw no head contact. Spits dominated but this is, after all, the OHL. Soo will probably dominate next game. Proteas is IMHO a very good player who seems invisible at times but just needs a touch more energy.
 
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Honestly feel this one was slightly worse than Martin's a few weeks ago. Player more vulnerable position and Belchetz size differential placed contact to where the head seemed targeted in appearance even if his head was not the initial contact point the follow through was which gave it the clothesline appearance. Maybe the over the crease in house arena camera shows a better view. If not, the league will need to rely heavy on the call on the ice by the officials from their opinion which was a major. Not looking good. The league can suspended 5 games for a head check but expecting 2-3 based on first offense
 

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Honestly feel this one was slightly worse than Martin's a few weeks ago. Player more vulnerable position and Belchetz size differential placed contact to where the head seemed targeted in appearance even if his head was not the initial contact point the follow through was which gave it the clothesline appearance. Maybe the over the crease in house arena camera shows a better view. If not, the league will need to rely heavy on the call on the ice by the officials from their opinion which was a major. Not looking good. The league can suspended 5 games for a head check but expecting 2-3 based on first offense
watch the clip again, you can see burchill, 30 feet away, along the boards on the goal line, with his eyes directly on this play watch it unfold and not call a damn thing until the puck makes its way to the Windsor line. There Never was a hand up, just a stoppage for injury, then review.

Sure it’ll probably result in a suspension, but the call on the ice was nothing. The call after the play was 5 and a game.

How do you skate horizontally halfway across the rink and not see a 6’4” Belchetz coming at you… the whole way.

I get protecting players, and I get head injuries are serious, I really do. But man, how you going to get rewarded for putting your head down. It’s the same trash as being along the boards and turning your numbers to the guy, to get completely sandwiched to try and draw a boarding call.

When you have guys on the receiving end of hits, putting themselves in a more dangerous position trying to draw penalties, how guilty are the guys on the giving end?

Let’s start to give guys hit with their head down, two for “Failure to be aware of their surroundings” and I bet half these “5 and a Game” calls disappear.

Belchetz is listed on OHL’s “Suspensions” list with a “Pending Review”
 
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With Belchetz definitely out of the lineup for today's game with the Hounds ,I . would put Gaymes in to replace him,would keep Mathurin out again save him for Flint,and I would start Joey again,go with the hot hand,would have Newlove dress as the backup
 

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Lots of comments on the Beltchz hit but I've looked at a couple of replays and I can't really see anything that tells me either way what happened. I will just let the league decide and live with that.

Announcer last night indicated that the same officiating crew was doing todays game as well. Haven't seen anything on the score sheets yet but it will be another interesting game if they do, lol.

Fyi I think this one goes to OT. Be safe.
 

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watch the clip again, you can see burchill, 30 feet away, along the boards on the goal line, with his eyes directly on this play watch it unfold and not call a damn thing until the puck makes its way to the Windsor line. There Never was a hand up, just a stoppage for injury, then review.

Sure it’ll probably result in a suspension, but the call on the ice was nothing. The call after the play was 5 and a game.

How do you skate horizontally halfway across the rink and not see a 6’4” Belchetz coming at you… the whole way.

I get protecting players, and I get head injuries are serious, I really do. But man, how you going to get rewarded for putting your head down. It’s the same trash as being along the boards and turning your numbers to the guy, to get completely sandwiched to try and draw a boarding call.

When you have guys on the receiving end of hits, putting themselves in a more dangerous position trying to draw penalties, how guilty are the guys on the giving end?

Let’s start to give guys hit with their head down, two for “Failure to be aware of their surroundings” and I bet half these “5 and a Game” calls disappear.

Belchetz is listed on OHL’s “Suspensions” list with a “Pending Review”
I can't really comment on the head check because there's no angle that shows whether he made contact or not, but Burchell did the same thing a couple of other times.

Most notably, Carter Hicks took a hit from Eric Muxlow at the Hounds blueline. Burchell watches and turns to follow the puck down ice. A few seconds later, Hicks is faking an injury and Burchell turns around, to call a high stick? It was a total guess and Hicks had a huge smile as he went to the bench. These players know and they take advantage of his idiocy. I'm not really chastising Hicks either, but you can't have fake calls where no one actually saw the play.
 
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