Windsor Spitfires 2024-25 Season Thread, Part I

[RayzorIsDull]

London does not draft well. They trade well and develop/ coach well.

If London doesn't draft well I am curious of who you think does and what the difference is? Why can't Windsor do what London does? Unless you think Windsor does draft better?? If you believe the difference is that London has built in advantages other franchises don't utilize/take advantage of or have I can buy that. I don't think you would disagree that the Hunter's have better connections than Bowler. Unfortunately none of that matters just like in college sports players want to go where they can win/develop and hopefully make generational wealth 15-20 years down the line.

I guess in regards to Martin the best example I can use is when the Spitfires were elite they could roster Greenop (nhl pick) and Wallace. We can quibble in regards to need but they served a use on a team that had a lot of talent and they were a luxury to have. After that Bilcke came along and faught 30+ times in one year. That was on a very young team with guys like Rychel/Vail/Ebert/Johnson/Clarke/Bateman/Webermin. Maybe he allowed those guys to play more free but it didn't impact the record as they got swept in round 1 and the year after they missed the playoffs with him still on the roster.

 

[OHL4Life]

You can 100 percent put your second pick in jrb

 

[ohloutsider]

If London doesn't draft well I am curious of who you think does and what the difference is? Why can't Windsor do what London does? Unless you think Windsor does draft better?? If you believe the difference is that London has built in advantages other franchises don't utilize/take advantage of or have I can buy that. I don't think you would disagree that the Hunter's have better connections than Bowler. Unfortunately none of that matters just like in college sports players want to go where they can win/develop and hopefully make generational wealth 15-20 years down the line.

I guess in regards to Martin the best example I can use is when the Spitfires were elite they could roster Greenop (nhl pick) and Wallace. We can quibble in regards to need but they served a use on a team that had a lot of talent and they were a luxury to have. After that Bilcke came along and faught 30+ times in one year. That was on a very young team with guys like Rychel/Vail/Ebert/Johnson/Clarke/Bateman/Webermin. Maybe he allowed those guys to play more free but it didn't impact the record as they got swept in round 1 and the year after they missed the playoffs with him still on the roster.

I think you answered a lot of your own questions. London rarely picks high. But they have the connections to recruit better. Also the over valued trades they make allows them to build picks so they can grab players like Dickinson.

Teams for me that draft well include NB, Brandford/ Hamilton and the Soo. Windsor has been average over the years with drafting but this year picking first and having other trades for high picks has made this a bumper year.

 

[hockeylegend11]

I can see Gaymes out and Martin in.

Actually see both Martin and Gaymes staying in the lineup at least at this time.

 

[OHLTG]

I like your take here but Martin has to make the team. Spits are young and you need that guy to police the shenanigans from other teams. I really like Hicks but he might fall victim to a numbers game. Lemieux likely makes it due to his draft position but he seems like he is the one that needs some jrb time.

I've been pro-Martin this whole time. He has to work on his skating and his disciplined but a 6'6 220lb guy with snarl who provides depth? I'll take it.

Right now, for me, it's Martin and Gaymes in, Lemieux to Jr B. That's not a knock on Lemieux, he just needs more seasoning.

I don't remember the last time a preseason game (Saturday night) had this much value to a team. It's a good problem to have.

 

[ohloutsider]

You can 100 percent put your second pick in jrb

Can you still keep 4 more up though?

 

[tomschman]

Can you still keep 4 more up though?

No, if Lemuiex is in Jr. B, they can only keep Belchez and 2 wildcards.

 

[OHLTG]

Per Windsor Star, there will be cuts/reassignments done after Saturday's game (maybe Sunday?). The moves will not necessarily be limited to the 2008 group.

 

[ohloutsider]

Per Windsor Star, there will be cuts/reassignments done after tonight's game (maybe tomorrow?). The moves will not necessarily be limited to the 2008 group.

Sorry, this made me smile. They are reporting there will be cuts after the last preseason game and before the 1st regular season game? I mean when do teams normally trim down their rosters???? Some investigating reporting there, lol.

 

[windsor7]

Sorry, this made me smile. They are reporting there will be cuts after the last preseason game and before the 1st regular season game? I mean when do teams normally trim down their rosters???? Some investigating reporting there, lol.

Hard hitting lol

 

[OHL4Life]

Can you still keep 4 more up though?

100 percent. People confuse the card rule with offering a contract rule, which I’m not even sure is a rule anymore anyways

 

[ohloutsider]

100 percent. People confuse the card rule with offering a contract rule, which I’m not even sure is a rule anymore anyways

Good to know.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Previous posts have mentioned Windsor's goals for and against this exhibition season Windsor with minimum games played 3 has
25 goals for and 14 goals against for average of 6.25 and 3.50 besides their 4-0 record
Next 4 teams are as follows
Sudbury 3 games played 16GF-5.33,13GA-4.33,2-1 record
Peterborough 3 games played 16GF-5.33,17GA,5.67 GA,2-1 record
Saginaw,4GP-21GF,5.25,21GA,5.25
2-2 record
Kitchener 5GP-5-0,GF-21-4.20 ,GA-16
3.20 Ave.
Erie so far has the scored the most goals 26 in 5 games,5.20,but have allowed 30GA-6.00 and their record is 1-2-0-2.
Despite being exhibition results for Windsor surprised me.

 

[Cherrydon]

No, if Lemuiex is in Jr. B, they can only keep Belchez and 2 wildcards.

I'm not sure Lemieux can be sent to Jr B. He is on an automatic A card. Junior B has limits on 16 yr olds and I believe it is a max of 2

 

[hockeylegend11]

You are correct about 2-16 year olds playing in Jr B.
I am wondering Windsor did draft 2 players in the 2nd round, do they get to chose which one is sent to B or keep both,Hicks is the other 2nd rounder besides Lemieux.

 

[Cherrydon]

You are correct about 2-16 year olds playing in Jr B.
I am wondering Windsor did draft 2 players in the 2nd round, do they get to chose which one is sent to B or keep both,Hicks is the other 2nd rounder besides Lemieux.

Rule is first 2 picked. Hicks eligible to go to Junior B. 2 first picks ad remainder as many wild cards you can sign regardless of round drafted.

 

[Cherrydon]

Honestly let's face it. Bowler had the roster decisions made and prepared as far as the rookies, before trng camp started due to roster limitations and US born players. The only decisions he has are Froggett sticking and some of the older fringe players. That is why Newlove was sent to Georgetown after 1/2 a game. Nothing to do with his performance. Numbers like the NHL salary cap

 

[OHLTG]

Sorry, this made me smile. They are reporting there will be cuts after the last preseason game and before the 1st regular season game? I mean when do teams normally trim down their rosters???? Some investigating reporting there, lol.

I kept thinking today is Saturday so I'll go edit that, but, yes, cuts after the final preseason game. It's likely fairly generic and expected but, eh, if they weren't mentioned, people would likely complain about a lack of transparency. So, I'll take the info...

 

[DetSpitsFan]

No the person doesn't necessarily raise the ceiling because we are talking about development and playing young guys this year.

Greentree
Spellacy
Morneau
Abraham
Protas
Nesbitt
Outwater
Belchetz
Davis
Garden
Lemieux
Gaymes

Martin can be your 13th forward, find another 05 forward that can help this year and next year. Still think you will see Lemieux he was drafted where he was for a reason and he has a connection to Newbury.

Who cares if Lemieux has a connection to Newbury, rostering a guy based on who he knows and not what he does isn't a good precedent.

 

[DetSpitsFan]

I've been pro-Martin this whole time. He has to work on his skating and his disciplined but a 6'6 220lb guy with snarl who provides depth? I'll take it.

Right now, for me, it's Martin and Gaymes in, Lemieux to Jr B. That's not a knock on Lemieux, he just needs more seasoning.

I don't remember the last time a preseason game (Saturday night) had this much value to a team. It's a good problem to have.

Also doesn’t hurt to have a 16 year old working his way in when it fits, rather than putting immediate pressure on them to perform at this level. The future is bright, if anyones cold, we have the young bodies to say “next man up”.

Nothing against Lemieux here either. Exciting pick, that’s destined for great things, but he hasn’t stuck out to me like some of the other rookies have in what I’ve seen. (Which to be honest is maybe 30%. A few chunks of different games)

 

[FireBall959]

No the person doesn't necessarily raise the ceiling because we are talking about development and playing young guys this year.

Greentree
Spellacy
Morneau
Abraham
Protas
Nesbitt
Outwater
Belchetz
Davis
Garden
Lemieux
Gaymes

Martin can be your 13th forward, find another 05 forward that can help this year and next year. Still think you will see Lemieux he was drafted where he was for a reason and he has a connection to Newbury.

So Martin makes the team. That's what he said.
It's interesting to everyone's take on the 16yr olds. In the a.m. session of the blue-white -reds I thought Lemieux looked great. I also think he looks more 2-way oriented than Garden or Brockelhurst, which will suit the on-ice situations better. He most likely will log 4th line, periodic 3rd line minutes so do too that I ike him over Brock for that reason. Max will be better off playing in offensive situations in jr b. Imo

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Who cares if Lemieux has a connection to Newbury, rostering a guy based on who he knows and not what he does isn't a good precedent.

I would agree but there have been other players within the last few years that benefitted from that. I find this discussion interesting from the standpoint that Nesbitt was taken 20th overall Lemieux 22nd overall. Nobody thought Nesbitt wouldn't make the team. I don't think there's a stark difference between 20th in 2023 and 22nd in 2024.

 

[OHL4Life]

I would agree but there have been other players within the last few years that benefitted from that. I find this discussion interesting from the standpoint that Nesbitt was taken 20th overall Lemieux 22nd overall. Nobody thought Nesbitt wouldn't make the team. I don't think there's a stark difference between 20th in 2023 and 22nd in 2024.

More offensive depth this year is the big thing. Nesbitt couldn’t get sent down and Lemieux can.

With the new jr b affiliate rules it would be silly not to. That would be the big difference imo

 

[Cherrydon]

More offensive depth this year is the big thing. Nesbitt couldn’t get sent down and Lemieux can.

With the new jr b affiliate rules it would be silly not to. That would be the big difference imo

Lemieux is an automatic A card. How can he be sent to B? It is a OHL rule first 2 16 yr olds selected can be signed with 2 more signed as wild cards regardless of round. All others are eligible to be affiliated . (US born no) if Windsor did nott sign him then yes, he could be put in B but the B club would have to sign him. Example was Manzo. If he signed with the Spits he would have been rostered all year but he signed with Lasalle because he wasn't ready.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Lemieux is an automatic A card. How can he be sent to B? It is a OHL rule first 2 16 yr olds selected can be signed with 2 more signed as wild cards regardless of round. All others are eligible to be affiliated . (US born no) if Windsor did nott sign him then yes, he could be put in B but the B club would have to sign him. Example was Manzo. If he signed with the Spits he would have been rostered all year but he signed with Lasalle because he wasn't ready.

Being A carded seems more of a designation. That doesn't preclude him from being sent done. Which also means he doesn't have to play in the O