Windsor Spitfires 2023-24 Season Thread (Part One)
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they have a few kids like all teams do, but they do it way more and have way more flame outs a la mizzi then others too.
Outsider was obviously pointing at Struthers. I would just like some more clarification if he has all these qualities why did Mississauga let him go. To make my point clear Mississauga isn't missing anyone to NHL camps right now. Mississauga has 6 06 forwards, 1 07 forward, 3 06 D, 1 06 G, 1 07 G and are only carrying 2 0As. That's an extremely young team wouldn't you want a 19 year old forward to help all those young players along?? Make no mistake every team wants to win but this Windsor team still wants to win on the backs of their 04's and 03's which makes up half of their roster.
its ok to say, they moved a ton of picks, dont have any 07s to fill the roster so just got a filler guy to play 10 minutes a night.
the issue is he makes them out to be these hidden gems and stars and it rarely works that way. its ok to say that.
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I like Struthers effort so far. Kid works hard and plays with an edge. Bunch of regulars here could learn from him! We’ll know much more in a few weeks. Im ok with struggles and even losing, BUT only if the effort is there and the players are true ohl caliber guys! Theres some here that dont belong and a bunch that need a lesson in work ethic.
Right and that's fine. I would prefer if Jodoin wasn't playing 20mpg on D especially when he might be the odd man out (hopefully) when Christopolous returns.
Just an a question for you in that regards or your opinion. I have no doubt their 2 07 D in LaSalle aren't ready to be regulars in the OHL. What would the harm be in those guys splitting games in Windsor instead of just having Jodoin play that much?
I would agree with the premise of your post. If guys like Abraham/Maillet/Smith/lesser extent Spellacy isn't going to produce it isn't going to matter what Struthers does. When you add in Nesbitt/Stewart/Martin into the mix who have low upside for this current time it's going to be rough.
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OHLTG
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I'd rather have a few misses and still find a Peer or DiGiacinto than not look at all.
You'd have to ask Mississauga that. Why did 20 teams pass on Peer in his draft season? I don't know but I'm glad we got him now.
What does Peer have to do with Struthers?? We are talking about Struthers not Peer.
OHLTG
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We're talking about picking up players that aren't wanted by other teams - Struthers, Peer, DiGi, and the list goes on.
i dont care if they do it, but lets not paint every kid like a peer. if you want to say struthers could be a peer, fine, but also say hes probably a latta or mizzi. hes been cut by both niagara and mississauga.
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But, in that sense, why can't he be like a Peer or DiGi? I'm not saying he will become a 50-point guy but if we're going to say "he could become meh", why can't we also say "he could find that next gear"? They've had some poor players in this sense... and some very solid ones, no?
sure, he could, and you could win the lottery. its great to say 'ill win the lottery today', but what do the odds say?
my issue isn't the find a new gear part, its that you never say 'he could me meh'. so yes, if you will say one thing, you should probably say both.
its like you have a fear of saying 'he probably will be filler', which it generally always does .
Well Peer made the Spits as an 18 year old and was able to settle into a bottom 6 role and blossom as a 19 year old. DiGiacinto signed with the Spits as a 17 year old. Struthers is already 19 years old. Whether you like it or not age needs to be considered in these situations. Struthers pretty much has to perform if you have any wishes for him to be an OA next year. If he struggles then you didn't get any value from acquiring him. Also another difference Struthers has already been with 2 different franchises. The Spits were the only team for DiGiacinto and maybe the same can be said for Peer.
OHLTG
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... which goes both ways lol
Without knowing why he was let go by either club, who am I to say it was bad? 20 teams didn't want Peer the first time. Now Windsor is flourishing with him.
Struthers might turn out to be a complete dude ala Mizzi and the others. He might become a solid depth piece. He might even become like Peer or DiGi. Nobody knows at this point. But, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt given what I've seen so far. He creates, goes into the dirty areas, gets on the other team's nerves, and seems to be liked my management. So far, I'm good with that.
you need to say 'odds are he wont make it' as much if not more then 'he will be the next peer'.
your for whatever reason scared to say that.
i watched him in oakville u16, i watched him in niagara. im pretty confident in my opinion.
you say the same thing every time and very very rarely does this actually come true.
its ok for YOU to say 'this probably is just filler, we dont need to make this kid out to be a stud',
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Because I don't need to believe it two games into a season. If he struggles by November or December, yeah, he likely won't be back next season. If he does well, he could be back. I'm sorry if I'm not writing him off in October.
if you dont need to believe that hes just filler two games in, then how on earth could you know if hes the next peer two games in, it works both ways.
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Peer was a free agent. The other player was cut by 2 teams. There is a big difference in how these players arrived in Windsor.
DeBrincat was missed by the Spits and 18 other teams. Are we comparing this to Struthers as well?
Not the first time that the Spits or other teams have had to bridge draft years to ice a team. This is not a bad thing, just need to admit that is all they are trying to accomplish.
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DeBrincat was missed by the Spits and 18 other teams. Are we comparing this to Struthers as well?
Not the first time that the Spits or other teams have had to bridge draft years to ice a team. This is not a bad thing, just need to admit that is all they are trying to accomplish.
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thats what i dont get, it happens all the time. rebuilding teams bring in filler players, they do what they are here for and they leave, its quite ok, its fine. but ohltg really needs to make these filler players out to be potential impact players. its bizarre.
north bay signed forgione, hes actually a decent filler player, and they dont make him out to be the next top guy. because 90 percent chance he isnt. the petes brought in binnie and velliaris and same thing, they dont make them out to be potential impact players, because a significant odds are they they wont be.
theres a much higher percentage of filler players that dont survive the year then make the ohl all year, thats just as true with the spitfires as anyone.
OHLTG
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See below...
I'm simply saying he could be anything at this point so why not be on the better side? If he's not, he's not, but I'm not going to assume he's bad less than a week into the season. If that's not liked, then so be it.
your ignoring the logic. if you cant say hes just a guy after two games, you also cant say hes anything more then a filler after two games. hes been cut by two teams, its latta all over again.
let me ask you this, what is your scorecard on saying 'this guy could be pretty good' for walk on free agents?
do you think it hits 20 percent? 30? i probably could start a list of guys youve said this about, and the stats on the guys that make it are not pretty.
Sometimes the underachieving players when placed in the right situation can reach their full potential. The Peterborough Petes did it two years ago with Emmett Sproule and Windsor did it years ago with David Haas. The later went from a career high of 11 goals in a season split between London, Kitchener and Belleville in 1986-1987 to scoring 60 in Windsor the next year.
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