Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 8)

[ohloutsider]

The question might become - who's more valuable to their group, Sobolev or Maillet (who I'd imagine is the odd-man out within the forwards)? Right now, I'd argue Sobolev.

The question for me is which OA will garnish the biggest return if traded? That is the one that gets moved. This year is the year to restock the pantry. Soblev is worth more to the team as an experienced D then as a trade piece or to just release him. Now if there is interest then yes you need to look at that so your new import has a shot as well.

 

[rve24]

The question might become - who's more valuable to their group, Sobolev or Maillet (who I'd imagine is the odd-man out within the forwards)? Right now, I'd argue Sobolev.

Another ? Is who gets you the best return. That should be factored in as well unless it is a go for it.
Both thoughts carry value in the decision.
And I agree with "value" thought you expressed. And it's measured in more than just pts.....leadership, replacement player, development ect.... Sometimes a tough call. All about managing assets n team expectations. Always a unique situation.
Tough choices

 

[Cherrydon]

I need a reminder. Sobolev is technically a free agent as far as NHL as Montreal never signed him within 2 years of being drafted ?? Drafted in 2021. He could also sign with an AHL club or any club if he chooses? He was already 20 last year. Doubt he'd consider Russia with the war draft possibility.

 

[OHLTG]

Right now, I think Sobolev means more to the Spits than the return he'd get as an OA/Import dual spot. Last I looked, there are a handful of teams that have potential Import OAs so those would likely be out and the cost wouldn't have been high to begin with (a couple of mid-round picks?).

My guess, in order of highest returns - Christo, Peer, Maillet, Sobo, Jodoin. However, you don't want to just deal Christo AND Peer without significant offensive return. One of them should be a leader on this club in 2023-24.

This isn't going to be an easy decision for Bowler, regardless of what he does.

 

[punch1943]

I guess I missed the fact that Eric Wellwood was promoted to an assistant coach with the Toronto Marlies. I was hoping he’d come back here. Any word on who ‘s in line for the Spit job?

 

[windsor7]

I guess I missed the fact that Eric Wellwood was promoted to an assistant coach with the Toronto Marlies. I was hoping he’d come back here. Any word on who ‘s in line for the Spit job?

Doesn't leave them with many options.
And a couple r not good...

 

[OHLTG]

Given Bowler surprised us with Savard, confident the next guy will be fine.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

I guess I missed the fact that Eric Wellwood was promoted to an assistant coach with the Toronto Marlies. I was hoping he’d come back here. Any word on who ‘s in line for the Spit job?

Not surprised. Moved up from ECHL to AHL. Got closer in location and something that the Spits couldn't match.

 

[Teflon]

Id be very nervous were about to get a certain asst coach as head coach….

Is the site messed up? I try to go to page 33 and it logs me out?

 

[OHL 17]

If a certain assistant coach moves into the HC job it will set the team back for years!

 

[hockeylegend11]

Id be very nervous were about to get a certain asst coach as head coach….

Is the site messed up? I try to go to page 33 and it logs me out?

Did the same to me till now

 

[Teflon]

Real bad feeling. Im also told that certain asst is a relative of ownership. Thats a bad look!! Be more season tics getting cancelled!

 

[Cherrydon]

I hope they hire outside the current staff. Just don't think Smith or Delmore brings us the defensive stability as a team to go deep. I suppose it's possible Smith was handcuffed by Letowski and Savard but I highly doubt it.

 

[Cherrydon]

With Wellwood announced today after being vocal about the position, leaves me thinking the writing was already on the wall and Bowler waiting for candidates to fall elsewhere to announce his " best available left and already familar with the organization" " the old win within slogan rejuvenation "

 

[ohloutsider]

I remember a certain Asst taking over while a head coach went to the world Juniors. It didn't go well, a GM (WR) had to step onto the bench to steady the boat until the head coach returned. Time will tell I guess.

 

[windsor7]

With Wellwood announced today after being vocal about the position, leaves me thinking the writing was already on the wall and Bowler waiting for candidates to fall elsewhere to announce his " best available left and already familar with the organization" " the old win within slogan rejuvenation "

Barf.

 

[OHLTG]

The last time Wellwood got another job after showing interest in the Spits, the club hired someone none of us thought about and it turned out pretty darn well. I'm going to wait and reserve emotional energy until something happens. If it's Smith or Delmore, then so be it. They're not my first choice but neither was Savard, so....

 

[rve24]

The last time Wellwood got another job after showing interest in the Spits, the club hired someone none of us thought about and it turned out pretty darn well. I'm going to wait and reserve emotional energy until something happens. If it's Smith or Delmore, then so be it. They're not my first choice but neither was Savard, so....

The last time Wellwood got another job after showing interest in the Spits, the club hired someone none of us thought about and it turned out pretty darn well. I'm going to wait and reserve emotional energy until something happens. If it's Smith or Delmore, then so be it. They're not my first choice but neither was Savard, so....

U will like n defend whoever they choose

Yes I think Savard did well. Didn't meet HLs previous standards for success but I agree with you he did a good job and it turned out well. Problems.....sure ( G situation, D play,,,, whatever) ....all teams have them, but they had 2 very good reg. seasons and 1 very good PO run under Savard. Really did help.lead the org back to revelance. ( with the entire org. N players)
I would reserve judgement until a new bench boss is named and also would wait n evaluate them based on success/ lack of success and not a pre conceived notion of who should be hired.
Good luck and sincerely hope the Spits find a solid coach who can lead, develop, mentor the players. All the OHL kids should be afforded that on any team.

 

[OHLTG]

U will like n defend whoever they choose

I said I'm going to reserve emotion until something happens given we're in a similar spot to last time and that seemed to work out. Truth be told, when I first heard about them hiring Savard back in the day, my reaction wasn't good. I remember being in a parking lot and saying something like "Why the heck did they go THIS route?" Turns out, it was a pretty good choice. We'll see how the next month, or beyond, shake out.

 

[rve24]

I said I'm going to reserve emotion until something happens given we're in a similar spot to last time and that seemed to work out. Truth be told, when I first heard about them hiring Savard back in the day, my reaction wasn't good. I remember being in a parking lot and saying something like "Why the heck did they go THIS route?" Turns out, it was a pretty good choice. We'll see how the next month, or beyond, shake

I would not have guessed you questioned the hiring of Savard.
All good.

 

[Teflon]

Imho if your not bringing in a guy with pro experience you better damn well hire a guy with HC experience!!! This is supposed to be a premier junior hockey team, a coach NEEDS some previous successful experience in that position.

 

[rve24]

Imho if your not bringing in a guy with pro experience you better damn well hire a guy with HC experience!!! This is supposed to be a premier junior hockey team, a coach NEEDS some previous successful experience in that position.

Do you have any thoughts on who may fit that bill that's available, and in the salary range that a JrA coach would make?
Just reading here I'm not sure they break the bank at this point.
A ex player looking to get into coaching without the experience at a higher level may work out great. ( MSL in Montreal as a comparison) yes its a gamble.
Agreed that the coach needs cred and it can come from different backgrounds. (pro player/previous experience. As you mentioned)
Hopefully a new coach isn't handcuffed with some of the concerns I've read on here with other staff ( I have no inside info just the gripes on here)
Hire a quality person n give them the reigns. Kids, fans n org. will benefit.

 

[OHLTG]

If they repeat the Savard situation, or similar, they're going to be in good hands. I'd imagine most fans will take the 2021-23 success if it's repeated down the road.

 

[windsor7]

If they repeat the Savard situation, or similar, they're going to be in good hands. I'd imagine most fans will take the 2021-23 success if it's repeated down the road.

Still got to learn to play defense..

 

[RayzorIsDull]

If they repeat the Savard situation, or similar, they're going to be in good hands. I'd imagine most fans will take the 2021-23 success if it's repeated down the road.

I'm glad there's a Wyatt Johnston waiting for the new coach.

Savard was a damn good coach but it's about Jimmy's and Joe's.