Windsor Spitfires 2021-22 Season Thread

[member 71782]

Cfaub

Must admit I am surprised you would
stick up for a player who to date with 40 AHL games has 3G,14A -23 , highest minus on the team,underage,was underwhelming here in his 2nd year and you think he belongs in the AHL
5th highest scoring Center on the team
Numbers dont lie
92 points in total in 2 years,with high minus numbers overall,11 goal average per year ,you have to admit I know of very few if any would belong in the AHL if not for the special rule that doesn't affect 54 teams in CHL let alone normal times.

Cuylle is bigger and stronger but had lower production. He's gone from a goal scorer to a power forward who can score a few goals. He had lower production than Foudy I believe (not sure how their PPG compared), Hartford wasn't prepared to put him in as many games yet you thought he was AHL ready.

Foudy has never been a goal scorer, playmaker yes and he had as many goals as Cuylle who was always expected to be a goal scorer last year in the AHL.

Why was Cuylle ready but Foudy isn't in your opinion.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Cuylle is bigger and stronger but had lower production. He's gone from a goal scorer to a power forward who can score a few goals. He had lower production than Foudy I believe (not sure how their PPG compared), Hartford wasn't prepared to put him in as many games yet you thought he was AHL ready.

Foudy has never been a goal scorer, playmaker yes and he had as many goals as Cuylle who was always expected to be a goal scorer last year in the AHL.

Why was Cuylle ready but Foudy isn't in your opinion.

Cuylle different type player who by all accounts was very impressive at Rangers camp and exhibition games,and judging by comments made by those involved with Rangers,as well as highlights seen he seemed to be on different track.
Also saw both Cuylle and Foudy at this year's camp prior to both leaving, difference was quite Cuylle much more noticeable then Foudy, with Foudy very little wow,Cuylle much more.
That being said Cuylle has not shown the wow factor for the most part,has been a bit snakebit too,showing some signs of coming around.
When we last played Cuylle had 1 goal in his 1st 8 games,his 2nd year in the league,Foudy started slowly too then

 

[Travis Bickle 77]

As someone that follows the Colorado Eagles and the AHL I can tell you first hand Foudy is not ready to compete at the level!! I honestly say I have no idea why he has not been returned. As a player who is lacking playing time .....I would think Foudy would be getting frustrated at this point. I am a believer that if a player is still eligible and is not playing decent minutes in the AHL or ECHL that player should be returned to their Jr. Club. Unless that said player has what I like to call the "Lindros" Factor.

 

[hockeylegend11]

With Kitchener losing its 3rd straight game tonight 5-4 to the Hounds,at home,Spits need to jump on them fast,good chance they will be fatigued,3rd game in 4 days with 2 travels having played in the Soo on Wednesday and at home tonight.
Last week Spits played at Kitchener on the Friday lost in a shootout in a game that could have gone either,Windsor played the night before, though it didn't look it,Kitchener didnt,the reverse Saturday in Windsor, need to take advantage.
Will be interesting.
Just learned their captain dman Arber Xhekag was given a match penalty for slew footing at the 20.00 minute of the 3rd period

Suspension - automatic 2 games can see more assessed.
Take a look at video by Peter Knuelman
on twitter,pretty compelling for a 5 game or more imo.

As I predicted Xhekag for Kitchener given a 5 game suspension for his actions last night by the league.
Good to know I am not out of touch with things as some think.

 

[Travis Bickle 77]

As I predicted Xhekag for Kitchener given a 5 game suspension for his actions last night by the league.
Good to know I am not out of touch with things as some think.

Seen this coming for about 2 weeks or so!, Xhekag has been playing with a large chip on his shoulder as of late. Was only a matter of time before he crossed the line.

 

[hockeylegend11]

As someone that follows the Colorado Eagles and the AHL I can tell you first hand Foudy is not ready to compete at the level!! I honestly say I have no idea why he has not been returned. As a player who is lacking playing time .....I would think Foudy would be getting frustrated at this point. I am a believer that if a player is still eligible and is not playing decent minutes in the AHL or ECHL that player should be returned to their Jr. Club. Unless that said player has what I like to call the "Lindros" Factor.

Further to what you have written, according to Foudy 's agent,the player as well can request being sent down to Jrs.
He cant go to East Coast League team,its AHL or Windsor.

 

[Travis Bickle 77]

Further to what you have written, according to Foudy 's agent,the player as well can request being sent down to Jrs.
He cant go to East Coast League team,its AHL or Windsor.

That is very true! On both accounts. Who know's what Foudy wants or is thinking, I can only offer my opinion and that is he is totally not ready! Will see how it plays out I guess.

 

[OHLTG]

The whole thing makes me wonder if Foudy WANTS to come back or not. If he's struggling, but still learning, does it outweigh any positives he'd have in Windsor? IF he's healthy and wants to be here, I'd absolutely welcome him. If he'd rather be in Colorado, though, then that's no sweat.

As for Xhekaj - he's always played on that thin line and I'm kind of disappointed he's not playing today. He would have stirred up a bunch.

 

[windsor7]

The whole thing makes me wonder if Foudy WANTS to come back or not. If he's struggling, but still learning, does it outweigh any positives he'd have in Windsor? IF he's healthy and wants to be here, I'd absolutely welcome him. If he'd rather be in Colorado, though, then that's no sweat.

As for Xhekaj - he's always played on that thin line and I'm kind of disappointed he's not playing today. He would have stirred up a bunch.

Windsor doesnt need any further trips to the penalty box.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

I have no problem with defenders pinching in the offensive zone. It creates more chances than the set position hockey some of you seem to like.
It can create unpredictability and confusion among the opposition and it can lead to lost coverage and scoring chances when done right.


The problem I have with it is when the trailing forward doesn’t cover for them. And from what i’ve seen with Windsor - it happens alot. This is a system issue, not entirely a Henault or Sobolev issue.

 

[Travis Bickle 77]

Windsor doesnt need any further trips to the penalty box.

You prefer pond hockey?

 

[windsor7]

You prefer pond hockey?

Can u score in the penalty box?

 

[OHLTG]

Why do people always assume rough stuff means Windsor taking the only penalty? Why can't two players go or Windsor getting a PP? We saw that on Thurs with Cuylle and Paquette.

 

[Travis Bickle 77]

Why do people always assume rough stuff means Windsor taking the only penalty? Why can't two players go or Windsor getting a PP? We saw that on Thurs with Cuylle and Paquette.

Exactly!! A person with a very low hockey IQ would be the only one that would not understand this.

 

[member 71782]

Cuylle different type player who by all accounts was very impressive at Rangers camp and exhibition games,and judging by comments made by those involved with Rangers,as well as highlights seen he seemed to be on different track.
Also saw both Cuylle and Foudy at this year's camp prior to both leaving, difference was quite Cuylle much more noticeable then Foudy, with Foudy very little wow,Cuylle much more.
That being said Cuylle has not shown the wow factor for the most part,has been a bit snakebit too,showing some signs of coming around.
When we last played Cuylle had 1 goal in his 1st 8 games,his 2nd year in the league,Foudy started slowly too then

I agree that Cuylle is a much different type of player and also that he would handle the increased physical much better as well.

What I asked was why is Cuylle better prepared, as someone who plays a power forward game and is expected to add some goals while Foudy is a playmaker who doesn't have much of a scoring touch?

In the abbreviated season Foudy exceeded Cuylle's point totals while playing a couple more games which would show Foudy ahead of Cuylle in terms of being ready if you want to go by the stat line.

Obviously we both know there's more to it and as someone who hasn't watched either play at that level I'm not trying to say either is ready or not. I asked what benefits he would receive in his development coming back to the OHL versus staying in the AHL.

As Travis Bickle 77 said, he's watched him play and he doesn't look ready to be there. Great. As a Windsor fan I would like to see him back in Windsor helping the Spits hopefully contend. That doesn't mean it best serves his development and none of us appear to know what Colorado's plans are for him.

One thing I'll give him credit for is if he can ask to be sent back and he's struggling but still sticking it out in the tough times then good for him. He shouldn't ask to come back, he should make them send him back while making the most of the chance he has then come back with a big chip on his shoulder trying to prove himself.

Unless Windsor is out if contention or he'd rather be dealt there's no way I trade him if he is sent back.

 

[member 71782]

I have no problem with defenders pinching in the offensive zone. It creates more chances than the set position hockey some of you seem to like.
It can create unpredictability and confusion among the opposition and it can lead to lost coverage and scoring chances when done right.


The problem I have with it is when the trailing forward doesn’t cover for them. And from what i’ve seen with Windsor - it happens alot. This is a system issue, not entirely a Henault or Sobolev issue.

No one has a problem with players pinching Henault and to a slightly lesser extent Sobolov go far beyond that.

Henault will carry the puck or follow the puck carrier right into the corner. If Windsor loses the puck, it ends up in the other corner Henault is more likely to hang around the middle of the face off circle than play the point, even if Windsor doesn't have possession.

When the puck ends up coming back to Windsor's zone not only is Henault usually the last Spit back in his own end he's usually the last player from both teams into Windsor's end then he tries to fight to get back somewhat into position while still making sure he can be the first or second one out of the zone.

He has never had a defensive side to his game that could be counted on.

Sobolov is not that extreme and even seems to have taken a step back from pushing forward too much but he started the season spending more time forechecking then backchecking.

Pinching in or more importantly, being able to read the play so you know when is needed, you have to have offensive contributions from your D. Henault still doesn't seem to have grasped that yet.

 

[member 71782]

As I predicted Xhekag for Kitchener given a 5 game suspension for his actions last night by the league.
Good to know I am not out of touch with things as some think.

Who thinks you're out of touch?

Just cause you have a few years on me doesn't mean you've lost all your faculties. J/K.

Differing opinions or disagreements about how things are presented to support an opinion has nothing to do not knowing what you're talking about. In your case it's quite the opposite, you know exactly what you're talking about and it present it in a way that shows it.

It's just not always a full picture that you want to present.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Spits vs Rangers
Cajan in goal for Kitchener
Downey for Windsor

Not dressed for Windsor
F-Oliver Peer
F- Chris O'Flaherty
Add
James Jodoin
Wish Savard wouldn't go with 8D and 10 forwards,even though Jodoin goes upfront
Would go with same winning lineup.

 

[TheGremlin]

As I predicted Xhekag for Kitchener given a 5 game suspension for his actions last night by the league.
Good to know I am not out of touch with things as some think.

Most people who know OHL hockey could have predicted that one lol.

 

[windsor7]

Spits vs Rangers
Cajan in goal for Kitchener
Downey for Windsor

Not dressed for Windsor
F-Oliver Peer
F- Chris O'Flaherty
Add
James Jodoin
Wish Savard wouldn't go with 8D and 10 forwards,even though Jodoin goes upfront
Would go with same winning lineup.

A full lineup be nice.
At least 12 forwards be nice

 

[TheGremlin]

I’m glad to see Downey get the start tonight. He has been very calm in the net in his starts. Medina better wake up before he see a timeshare in goal.

 

[tomschman]

2 games in a row that the Spits have scored 1st and have led after 1 period. That makes 2 for the season.

 

[member 71782]

Probably Windsor's best opening period of the season, at least that I've seen.

 

[windsor7]

Stick check never work.
Defense need to actually throw body checks.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Getting off the rails now. Got to step up.