Willy had to play every role on that line tonight, can't be three places at once.
The one goal was scored based on quickness, and hand speed.
Yeah but just generally Mitch can play playmaker on the second line, instead of trying to do everything. Create space and time for the lesser players and handle responsibilities. He would be better at getting them going.
He was ok. He finished one that Holmberg put on a platter. Line didn’t generate much else it seemed. Thought the top line had way more chances.
Looked like the first line couldn't find any space or time. Didn't look like they had a lot of control of the puck, probably just the Wild's style is playoffs style. No doubt they got some shots, but can't say they amounted to anything.
Yep moved the puck around and played fine but at the end of the day didn't really accomplish much.
That's.. not how that works. Their ice time difference is primarily PK time. Through those years, Marner led Nylander 2.98 > 2.35 P/60 at 5v5 and 7.23 > 6.92 P/60 on the PP.
Marner had slightly better linemate quality (though Matthews and Tavares are both of their top two linemates at 5v5 and they play the same PP), but also faced tougher matchups and played tougher minutes, produced primary points better, played better defense, PKed, and played better in the playoffs.
Especially since it is only year one, years 3 to 8 will look cheaper and cheaper as the cap goes up, by year 8 William could be our best player and 6th highest paid,
9th in goals and 12th in points over the last 2+ seasons - that looks pretty close to top 10, even without taking into consideration linemates.
You're going in the wrong direction. Do we subtract pk points? What's the value of 3rd period goals over secondary assists? Or the value of 'slightly' better linemates (ie. the best scorer in the game)? You need to pan out, not dick around in the stat weeds. They are comparable players across the hockey world.
Over the 3 years referenced, Nylander has just under 1700 minutes at 5v5 with Tavares and just over 1000 minutes with Matthews.
We can both agree that that is a horrible way to evaluate linemate quality, right?
Yes, they have all played together, and both have spent most of their minutes with an elite player, so these attempts to act like Nylander has been so disadvantaged are pretty silly.
No, you went in the wrong direction. You just tried to equate PP, 5v5, and PK time, and hand Nylander a bunch of bonus points because he doesn't PK. That's illogical.
If you want. That drops the point pace gap from 15 points per 82, all the way down to 14 points per 82.
Marner is a better primary point producer than Nylander too, so I'm not sure why you keep talking about secondary assists.
You're the one that started manipulating the stats. They are not comparable players in the hockey world. Marner is better.
Every coach would choose Marner. Better offensively, and won't give up a goal against in the process.
We would be a worse team without Marner than we would without Nylander. Thankfully, we have both.
Better offensively? That’s an interesting one. Just let us know when Marner scores a goal on an actual goalie.
Marner has scored plenty of goals against actual goalies, and there's more to offensive impact than just goals.
He should, he's always been a good soldier for his National Team.
