Great question. I can't figure out why they can't just have Matthews sit in the same spot as Ovie and Stamkos and just wire pucks.
Agreed
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If they want to match better defenders against him it means Marner and Matthews gain an easier load.
Either way the team benefits
Man when Willy is on he's real good. A shame he seems to always have atleast one plug on his line at all times.
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If he's forcing their D to back off a bit doesn't that work in our favour, making it easier to clear the zone?
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Willy plays best with guys who let him carry the puck and create. He needs a pass first 3C to play with.
He will drive the line.
He will drive the line.
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Nylander , Matthews had 6 shots each on goal, Marner 4. 16 of 19 shots total. Good but not enough from the others.
Need to get the box out of position instead of just circling the puck around the perimeter . Move it in and faster passes. Cross seam passes are usually how ovie /stammer get those goals.
Well they don't have him in the same spot because Ovechkin and Stamkos shot right, and Matthews shoots left. They do tee up Matthews on the other side a decent amount, but peppering the blocker side is probably more effective than peppering the glove side.
But also, Matthews through his career has scored goals on the PP at a better rate than Ovechkin and Stamkos, and the 2nd best rate in the history of the league (400+ min) behind only Draisaitl (thanks to McDavid). We don't think of him as the PP goal scorer that Ovechkin and Stamkos were for one big reason. We just don't get the same number of PPs as Ovechkin and Stamkos got, especially in their primes.
Seems correct. Going glove side as opposed to blocker side seems like it would make a considerable difference.
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I also think Ovechkin and Stamkos relied on the 'one-timer blast' a lot more than Matty, who has scored in a lot of different ways.
I think another factor is that neither Rielly nor Marner seem to get as much zip or precision on their passes to either Matty or Willy, so the one-timer isn't as effective.
Pass quality is far from the issue, but yes, Ovechkin and Stamkos were definitely more skewed towards slap shots and power than the wrist shots and accuracy that Matthews is known for.
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I didn't say pass quality was the issue, I said it was a factor, and that is very true.
They get very good pass quality. That's one of the things that helps them score on the PP at one of the highest rates of all time; behind only the guy that plays with arguably the greatest PP playmaker ever.
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You haven't been watching with a critical eye recently, have you?
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Of course I have. That's how I know that bad passing from one of the best passers in the league isn't a real issue.
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Bad passing from one the best passers must be as bad as bad shoots from one of the best goal scorers. Bad is Bad, how Bad? Thats up for u experts to discuss.
Nylanders passing skills are underrated. As are Marners shooting skills.
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At this point, I wouldn’t blame Nylander for tuning Bérubé out. Him and McMann looked pretty good for a couple of games. Knies gets hurt, so we need to coddle M and M, up goes McMann. This seems to happen all the time.
It’s actually stupid I’m not understanding the fascination with being a one line team that doesn’t score instead of making the ufa earn his next contract by gauging his value as a stand alone asset not by putting him in the most advantageous situations to hike the price up winning is above all else but if your watching the games we’re losing a lot of games we should be winning
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50 in 50
Nikolaj Ehlers 6.5M —> 43 in 41
David Pastrnak 11.25 —> 59 in 51
Mitch Marner 10.89 —> 68 in 50
2019 John Tavares 11 —> 87 in 82
28th in points, Tied 34th in PPG, T-6th highest player
This guy should be making 8M, not 11.5M. He’s worse than the JT contract.
Based off of their play, Marner really should get 14M
Nikolaj Ehlers 6.5M —> 43 in 41
David Pastrnak 11.25 —> 59 in 51
Mitch Marner 10.89 —> 68 in 50
2019 John Tavares 11 —> 87 in 82
28th in points, Tied 34th in PPG, T-6th highest player
This guy should be making 8M, not 11.5M. He’s worse than the JT contract.
Based off of their play, Marner really should get 14M
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And 22 assists
I’m tired of hearing this, it pissed me off with Matthews and it’s doing it with nylander. He’s on pace for 46 goals, and 82 points, for 11.5M thats just horrendous. At 11.5M I expect him (and the other 2) to be able to play with 1 one domi/knies/mcmann and anyone at Center and produce at a 90 point pace. This dude was producing like ass when Tavares was here too.
