Player Discussion William Nylander

[ULF_55]

Last 5 years, which is reasonable, as it is recent trend and large sample size.
Note the ages are very similar except #2GOAT goal scorer.

 

[ULF_55]

I noticed someone using Position for comparison in another thread. RW's
Last 5 years, recent trend and large sample size.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

I noticed someone using Position for comparison in another thread. RW's
Last 5 years, recent trend and large sample size.
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I don’t think many are concerned with how these guys run up big regular season numbers.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I don’t think many are concerned with how these guys run up big regular season numbers.

Of the four Leafs with > 30 playoff games over the last 5 years, ES g/60:

Matthews - .88
Nylander - .83
Tavares - .81
Marner - .50

Or just goals:

Nylander - 17
Matthews - 13
Tavares - 10
Marner - 6

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Of the four Leafs with > 30 playoff games over the last 5 years, ES g/60:

Matthews - .88
Nylander - .83
Tavares - .81
Marner - .50

Or just goals:

Nylander - 17
Matthews - 13
Tavares - 10
Marner - 6

I know none of them step up to be worthy of their cap hits. Those numbers confirm ,that across the board ,we’re not getting our moneys worth from a single one of them.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I know none of them step up to be worthy of their cap hits. Those numbers confirm ,that across the board ,we’re not getting our moneys worth from a single one of them.

Considering that three of the four were making $11M each and one was making $7M, we're a lot closer the getting our moneys worth from one.

 

[PromisedLand]

LMAO just saw this on twitter

 

[arso40]

Considering that three of the four were making $11M each and one was making $7M, we're a lot closer the getting our moneys worth from one.

Willy has produced for his cap hit you don't have to sugar coat it these guys can lump them in to take the heat off their favorite players but the facts are still the facts willy will be judged harsher going forward but he's the least of the issues among the core

 

[Trapper]

Willy has produced for his cap hit you don't have to sugar coat it these guys can lump them in to take the heat off their favorite players but the facts are still the facts willy will be judged harsher going forward but he's the least of the issues among the core

Having players that can exceed their cap hit on a core is another critical part of putting a team together.
Nylander was pretty much the only guy who was going to do it.
Paying Matthews and Marner more money now, doesn’t make them better players.

 

[rumman]

Having players that can exceed their cap hit on a core is another critical part of putting a team together.
Nylander was pretty much the only guy who was going to do it.
Paying Matthews and Marner more money now, doesn’t make them better players.

He’ll never live up to that contract imo, he definitely deserved a raise, but that number he was signed to is ridiculous……..

 

[Trapper]

He’ll never live up to that contract imo, he definitely deserved a raise, but that number he was signed to is ridiculous……..

Yeah not anymore. Which is all the more important reason not to make the same mistake giving the other guy more.
2 double digit forwards is enough moving forward.

 

[ULF_55]

Willy has produced for his cap hit you don't have to sugar coat it these guys can lump them in to take the heat off their favorite players but the facts are still the facts willy will be judged harsher going forward but he's the least of the issues among the core

Estimated Career Earnings

: $95,141,463


Estimated Career Earnings

: $52,995,000
Estimated Career Earnings

: $52,133,000

Estimated Career Earnings

: $37,999,427

 

[ULF_55]

He’ll never live up to that contract imo, he definitely deserved a raise, but that number he was signed to is ridiculous……..

I am still surprised at the amount.
If I were to guess his agent wasn't going to let him sign without getting some "backpay" involved.
Yeah, I can't see him earning all of it, but did the others earn their compensation?

 

[thewave]

LMAO just saw this on twitter

Willy needs to work on those things where pecs belong. Back in the gym slacker!

 

[LeafGrief]

Willy is a gamer. He's the guy who used to take all of the heat in the media, Kypreos and a bunch of others would always rant about how he should have been traded for a defenceman or that the guy would be soft forever. Willy had to sign first, sat out half the year for 7m (did suck the rest of that year to be fair) and then watched his teammates all get 11m. He spends time on PP2, gets shuffled around the lineup based on Marner's horoscope, and hears his name in trade rumours every summer.

Willy has never breathed a word of complaint. Never done anything but get into the gym and work on his game. He goes hard to the net, adjusts his game in the playoffs to score (he couldn't when he was younger), and when things get tough, he tells his teammates to QUIT CRYING BRO.

Nylander isn't a talented enough player to win a series or a cup by himself. He isn't a physical menace who is going to take over the fanbase's imagination the way that Wendel Clark did. He's not even a big leader like Sundin or Gilmour. But what he is, is a player who's good enough to win with. He's not a playoff dud, he's got the guts for it and will find ways to contribute.

And now that I've sung his praises, all I can do is let the air out of the bag with his new contract. Woof, what an absolute disaster that is. Nylander is a player you can win with, but I highly, highly doubt that he's going to be an 11.5m player for very much of it. That's a UFA-style career year overpayment in all of its glory. I can't blame him for wanting to settle the score with the team after the last six years of watching his teammates make that money while he takes all the heat, but hoooo boy I'm not going to pretend it's good for the team.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Willy is a gamer. He's the guy who used to take all of the heat in the media, Kypreos and a bunch of others would always rant about how he should have been traded for a defenceman or that the guy would be soft forever. Willy had to sign first, sat out half the year for 7m (did suck the rest of that year to be fair) and then watched his teammates all get 11m. He spends time on PP2, gets shuffled around the lineup based on Marner's horoscope, and hears his name in trade rumours every summer.

Willy has never breathed a word of complaint. Never done anything but get into the gym and work on his game. He goes hard to the net, adjusts his game in the playoffs to score (he couldn't when he was younger), and when things get tough, he tells his teammates to QUIT CRYING BRO.

Nylander isn't a talented enough player to win a series or a cup by himself. He isn't a physical menace who is going to take over the fanbase's imagination the way that Wendel Clark did. He's not even a big leader like Sundin or Gilmour. But what he is, is a player who's good enough to win with. He's not a playoff dud, he's got the guts for it and will find ways to contribute.

And now that I've sung his praises, all I can do is let the air out of the bag with his new contract. Woof, what an absolute disaster that is. Nylander is a player you can win with, but I highly, highly doubt that he's going to be an 11.5m player for very much of it. That's a UFA-style career year overpayment in all of its glory. I can't blame him for wanting to settle the score with the team after the last six years of watching his teammates make that money while he takes all the heat, but hoooo boy I'm not going to pretend it's good for the team.

Nicely stated.

 

[ULF_55]

And now that I've sung his praises, all I can do is let the air out of the bag with his new contract. Woof, what an absolute disaster that is. Nylander is a player you can win with, but I highly, highly doubt that he's going to be an 11.5m player for very much of it. That's a UFA-style career year overpayment in all of its glory. I can't blame him for wanting to settle the score with the team after the last six years of watching his teammates make that money while he takes all the heat, but hoooo boy I'm not going to pretend it's good for the team.

Earning it is going to be tough.

Needs to be around 110 Belak points.

 

[thewave]

Willy is a gamer. He's the guy who used to take all of the heat in the media, Kypreos and a bunch of others would always rant about how he should have been traded for a defenceman or that the guy would be soft forever. Willy had to sign first, sat out half the year for 7m (did suck the rest of that year to be fair) and then watched his teammates all get 11m. He spends time on PP2, gets shuffled around the lineup based on Marner's horoscope, and hears his name in trade rumours every summer.

Willy has never breathed a word of complaint. Never done anything but get into the gym and work on his game. He goes hard to the net, adjusts his game in the playoffs to score (he couldn't when he was younger), and when things get tough, he tells his teammates to QUIT CRYING BRO.

Nylander isn't a talented enough player to win a series or a cup by himself. He isn't a physical menace who is going to take over the fanbase's imagination the way that Wendel Clark did. He's not even a big leader like Sundin or Gilmour. But what he is, is a player who's good enough to win with. He's not a playoff dud, he's got the guts for it and will find ways to contribute.

And now that I've sung his praises, all I can do is let the air out of the bag with his new contract. Woof, what an absolute disaster that is. Nylander is a player you can win with, but I highly, highly doubt that he's going to be an 11.5m player for very much of it. That's a UFA-style career year overpayment in all of its glory. I can't blame him for wanting to settle the score with the team after the last six years of watching his teammates make that money while he takes all the heat, but hoooo boy I'm not going to pretend it's good for the team.

100% ... I even said way back he had the potential to overtake the big 3. In some respects its true. If winning in the playoffs is your thing WN is better than MM for sure. If its zone entries, again. He is also proving to be clutch and signed long term commitment. Overpay but the team sort of underpaid him to begin with and jerked him around a lot.

I like him today as a player. A bit soft but not soft to the point you want to fire him out of the clown canon like MM

 

[notDatsyuk]

Earning it is going to be tough.

Needs to be around 110 Belak points.

Belak points is 2X goals + assists?

Last three seasons his Belak points are 114, 127, and 138.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

I like 88 today as a player. A bit soft but not soft to the point you want to fire him out of the clown canon like MM

Absolutely.

Tre picked Nylander over Marner.

 

[JEI]

Wonder if they'll try Nylander at centre again now that Berube is coach. Maybe a bit of a longer sample size to see.

 

[rumman]

Willy is a gamer. He's the guy who used to take all of the heat in the media, Kypreos and a bunch of others would always rant about how he should have been traded for a defenceman or that the guy would be soft forever. Willy had to sign first, sat out half the year for 7m (did suck the rest of that year to be fair) and then watched his teammates all get 11m. He spends time on PP2, gets shuffled around the lineup based on Marner's horoscope, and hears his name in trade rumours every summer.

Willy has never breathed a word of complaint. Never done anything but get into the gym and work on his game. He goes hard to the net, adjusts his game in the playoffs to score (he couldn't when he was younger), and when things get tough, he tells his teammates to QUIT CRYING BRO.

Nylander isn't a talented enough player to win a series or a cup by himself. He isn't a physical menace who is going to take over the fanbase's imagination the way that Wendel Clark did. He's not even a big leader like Sundin or Gilmour. But what he is, is a player who's good enough to win with. He's not a playoff dud, he's got the guts for it and will find ways to contribute.

And now that I've sung his praises, all I can do is let the air out of the bag with his new contract. Woof, what an absolute disaster that is. Nylander is a player you can win with, but I highly, highly doubt that he's going to be an 11.5m player for very much of it. That's a UFA-style career year overpayment in all of its glory. I can't blame him for wanting to settle the score with the team after the last six years of watching his teammates make that money while he takes all the heat, but hoooo boy I'm not going to pretend it's good for the team.

Nice summary of the Nylander saga………

Wonder if they'll try Nylander at centre again now that Berube is coach. Maybe a bit of a longer sample size to see.

Seemed to do okay for the Swedish team when deployed there on the big ice…….

 

[thewave]

Nice summary of the Nylander saga………


Seemed to do okay for the Swedish team when deployed there on the big ice…….

The way he is playing lately looks more likely that he could transition to C.

 

[ULF_55]

I know this is olde news but since it is Combine Day.

 

[ULF_55]