Player Discussion William Nylander

[notDatsyuk]

The Core Fore will be the idols for the next generation of season ticket holders. They are a big deal after that post lockout era where the Leafs had no stars and lost a chunk of their potential fans to other teams in the league.

I'm not sure how that relates to my post, but do you think the "next generation of season ticket holders" would idolize them more or less if they actually won something - even a couple of rounds?

As far as paying the bills, regular season tickets are all sold every year, but a couple of extra rounds of playoffs....

 

[thewave]

I'm not sure how that relates to my post, but do you think the "next generation of season ticket holders" would idolize them more or less if they actually won something - even a couple of rounds?

As far as paying the bills, regular season tickets are all sold every year, but a couple of extra rounds of playoffs....

The only people that remember Toronto as a winner are dead or dying off fast. They should be ashamed as an organization to stroll down memory lane publicly. They should never again mention our past wins. Never until after we win again.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Only player on this team that can manage to score a goal in an elimination game consistently. The bigger the moment, the better he gets.

Don’t care if he decides to float in game 59 like some here do.

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

I'm not sure how that relates to my post, but do you think the "next generation of season ticket holders" would idolize them more or less if they actually won something - even a couple of rounds?

As far as paying the bills, regular season tickets are all sold every year, but a couple of extra rounds of playoffs....

You said they don't pay the bills when their entire marketing and business scheme is predicated on these players. Winning would obviously be the best, but it's hard to win.

It's easier to keep these guys in town and prop them up than it is to win. Winning takes risk and would've have cost at least one of the core members in a trade as those of us with sense were saying way back when in 2018. The current season ticket holder will all die off eventually, there is no doubt that the Leafs fanaticism is on a downswing even with the Snore Four. Imagine what it would be like without them. The ownership will just go with the program and keep the pockets laced, no need to take the risk and actually try to win.

 

[notDatsyuk]

You said they don't pay the bills when their entire marketing and business scheme is predicated on these players. Winning would obviously be the best, but it's hard to win.

It's easier to keep these guys in town and prop them up than it is to win. Winning takes risk and would've have cost at least one of the core members in a trade as those of us with sense were saying way back when in 2018. The current season ticket holder will all die off eventually, there is no doubt that the Leafs fanaticism is on a downswing even with the Snore Four. Imagine what it would be like without them. The ownership will just go with the program and keep the pockets laced, no need to take the risk and actually try to win.

You seem to have missed the point - those particular players really don't have any impact on the bottom line.

The seats will all be sold, the concessions will do a booming business, and yes, the sweaters will sell, pretty much regardless of the names on them.

The only way a particular group of players will appreciably affect the cash flow is if they go farther in the playoffs. More rounds = more home games= more gate and concession and sweater sales.

Do you think sales of Matthews sweaters will go up more if he scores 70 and wins the Richard, or if he lifts the Stanley Cup at centre ice at Scotiabank Arena?

 

[57 Years No Cup]

The only people that remember Toronto as a winner are dead or dying off fast. They should be ashamed as an organization to stroll down memory lane publicly. They should never again mention our past wins. Never until after we win again.

Just to expand on this thought: I'm 62, soon to be 63. The Leafs have won four Cups in my lifetime, the last of which was when I was 5 and I have no memory of any of them.

5.

Younguns need to think about that.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Totally unrelated to any of the preceding conversations, I just watched TSNs "Top 50 Men's World Hockey Championship Goals".

Some really pretty goals, but unless I missed one, there were only two players who scored more than one of them: Dany Heatley had two, and William Nylander had three. Lots of Canadians, only two Americans, and a surprising number from Sweden vs Finland games.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'd like him to either be on the point this year or left face off circle as a right shot one time option.

 

[ULF_55]

The only people that remember Toronto as a winner are dead or dying off fast. They should be ashamed as an organization to stroll down memory lane publicly. They should never again mention our past wins. Never until after we win again.

Shut your mouth ...

 

[rumman]

Just to expand on this thought: I'm 62, soon to be 63. The Leafs have won four Cups in my lifetime, the last of which was when I was 5 and I have no memory of any of them.

5.

Younguns need to think about that.

I’m same age and I do remember the last one, no memory of the others, I remember my uncle throwing me in the air over and over……..

 

[Dayjobdave]

The only people that remember Toronto as a winner are dead or dying off fast. They should be ashamed as an organization to stroll down memory lane publicly. They should never again mention our past wins. Never until after we win again.

I’m not dead yet!

 

[ULF_55]

I’m not dead yet!

I distinctly remember the last Cup, but I remember watching the game "already in progress" after Don Messer's Jubilee. Probably 1963 because bedtime would have been 09:00.

Hockey Night in Canada - Wikipedia

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Regular-season games were not broadcast in their entirety until 1968, and only one game was televised each Saturday night until the 1990s. From 1952 to 1964, the HNIC telecast followed the lead of the radio broadcast by beginning at 9 p.m. ET; games were typically joined in progress shortly before (or during) the second period. Its start time was moved up to 8:30 p.m. ET at the beginning of the 1963–64 season, allowing games to be joined in progress late in the first period.

 

[rumman]

I distinctly remember the last Cup, but I remember watching the game "already in progress" after Don Messer's Jubilee. Probably 1963 because bedtime would have been 09:00.

Hockey Night in Canada - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regular-season games were not broadcast in their entirety until 1968, and only one game was televised each Saturday night until the 1990s. From 1952 to 1964, the HNIC telecast followed the lead of the radio broadcast by beginning at 9 p.m. ET; games were typically joined in progress shortly before (or during) the second period. Its start time was moved up to 8:30 p.m. ET at the beginning of the 1963–64 season, allowing games to be joined in progress late in the first period.

No Dave Hodge around to flip his pencil at the stupidity of CBC brass back then………

 

[Confucius]

I distinctly remember the last Cup, but I remember watching the game "already in progress" after Don Messer's Jubilee. Probably 1963 because bedtime would have been 09:00.

Hockey Night in Canada - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regular-season games were not broadcast in their entirety until 1968, and only one game was televised each Saturday night until the 1990s. From 1952 to 1964, the HNIC telecast followed the lead of the radio broadcast by beginning at 9 p.m. ET; games were typically joined in progress shortly before (or during) the second period. Its start time was moved up to 8:30 p.m. ET at the beginning of the 1963–64 season, allowing games to be joined in progress late in the first period.

I remember being at school the next day and my friend says, Leafs won the Cup. I replied, we always do… oh to be 12 and Naive again

 

[keonsbitterness]

I’m same age and I do remember the last one, no memory of the others, I remember my uncle throwing me in the air over and over……..

Did he catch you?

 

[notDatsyuk]

I distinctly remember the last Cup, but I remember watching the game "already in progress" after Don Messer's Jubilee. Probably 1963 because bedtime would have been 09:00.

Hockey Night in Canada - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regular-season games were not broadcast in their entirety until 1968, and only one game was televised each Saturday night until the 1990s. From 1952 to 1964, the HNIC telecast followed the lead of the radio broadcast by beginning at 9 p.m. ET; games were typically joined in progress shortly before (or during) the second period. Its start time was moved up to 8:30 p.m. ET at the beginning of the 1963–64 season, allowing games to be joined in progress late in the first period.

They thought that if the entire game was on TV, fans would stop going to the Gardens.

I'm 71 - I remember the four Cup wins in the 60s, although the earliest ones aren't as clear.

I'd listen to the first period with my grandmother, then go upstairs to watch the rest.

 

[rumman]

Did he catch you?

I think so, but I have been ask if as a kid were you dropped on your head!

 

[ULF_55]

They thought that if the entire game was on TV, fans would stop going to the Gardens.

I'm 71 - I remember the four Cup wins in the 60s, although the earliest ones aren't as clear.

I'd listen to the first period with my grandmother, then go upstairs to watch the rest.

My DOB is indicated on my UserName.

 

[notDatsyuk]

My DOB is indicated on my UserName.

Mine's from when I played in the KHL and we had replica Red Wings sweaters. Somehow I ended up with #13. But I play defence and I'm not a great skater or stickhandler. A player less like Pavel would be hard to find.

My nickname quickly became 'notDatsyuk'.

 

[Trapper]

Mine's from when I played in the KHL and we had replica Red Wings sweaters. Somehow I ended up with #13. But I play defence and I'm not a great skater or stickhandler. A player less like Pavel would be hard to find.

My nickname quickly became 'notDatsyuk'.

You’re more of a Brad Marsh then?

 

[ULF_55]

for the last 10 years ... playoffs

 

[PROUD PAPA]

for the last 10 years ... playoffs

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Not good enough across the board. We definitely need some forwards who can produce at a higher rate than our core of playoff duds.

 

[ACC1224]

for the last 10 years ... playoffs

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Does the p/60 include all ice time?

 

[ULF_55]

Does the p/60 include all ice time?

Scoring per 60 (5v5, since 2009-10)​

 

[sunstersun]

Tavares is also more of a dumpster fire in the playoffs than any other core member. He's been Nylander's primary centre. Let's not forget Nylander putting up 5 goals with Kerfoot.

Last 5 seasons: 34 games played. 17 goals, 15 assists. Good for 0.5 GPG with a notable knack for clutch 5v5 contributions. Not saying that's 11.5 million performance, but it's pretty good. With better teammates and a functional powerplay you could see the potential for more.