Player Discussion William Nylander

Sizzle

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Concussion protocol?

The more he skates and practices and the less he plays it seems that would be the only thing out of his control.

If they don't clear him there is nothing the Leafs can do
The problem with this theory is that he wouldn't be flying back and forth to Boston or skating while in protocol, doesnt add up.

Also... When did he get a concussion!
 

sxvnert

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Concussion protocol?

The more he skates and practices and the less he plays it seems that would be the only thing out of his control.

If they don't clear him there is nothing the Leafs can do
He wouldn't be back on the ice that quickly if its a concussion.
 
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hamzarocks

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The mysterious injury of William Nylander is just what you would expect as a leaf fan

Hoping he plays game 4 but even if he does risk his play will be limited/poor as first time playing in a while in a high stakes intense game 4
 

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The problem with this theory is that he wouldn't be flying back and forth to Boston or skating while in protocol, doesnt add up.

Also... When did he get a concussion!

None of it makes any semblance of sense.

Purely because he chose to play the last 2 games of the season - back to back games on the road.


If he's injured sufficiently that he can't play hockey for a week, WHY THE f*** IS HE SKATING??
 
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JamieG19

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Just the fact that no one in the media has reported what the deal is with Nylander's injury should highlight the crisis in the hockey media today.

Miss the days when the media's job was to find out the truth and report it to the world. Don't for a second think that most in the media knows what is going on, but they are servants to whatever the team and players want so they don't do their job.

They media don't serve a purpose anymore. I don't see why they continue to get free access to games. Well, I do, they just echo the PR Department
 

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Just the fact that no one in the media has reported what the deal is with Nylander's injury should highlight the crisis in the hockey media today.

Miss the days when the media's job was to find out the truth and report it to the world. Don't for a second think that most in the media knows what is going on, but they are servants to whatever the team and players want so they don't do their job.

They media don't serve a purpose anymore. I don't see why they continue to get free access to games. Well, I do, they just echo the PR Department


It's becoming more and more obvious he hurt himself in the last 2 games.
It's becoming more likely that he was nursing something and it got flared up more in the games and the organization is afraid that him chasing 100 points was sufficiently important that he was allowed to play the last 2 games.

And the media members have been told that if they report it, they will be completely ostracized from all things Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment, effectively ending their careers.


All of the media personalities have publicly stated that "I don't know the specifics, but" and then go on to state he wasn't playing game 3 well before the team announced it.


They know.
 
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HellasLEAF

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Just the fact that no one in the media has reported what the deal is with Nylander's injury should highlight the crisis in the hockey media today.

Miss the days when the media's job was to find out the truth and report it to the world. Don't for a second think that most in the media knows what is going on, but they are servants to whatever the team and players want so they don't do their job.

They media don't serve a purpose anymore. I don't see why they continue to get free access to games. Well, I do, they just echo the PR Department
I disagree.

And I applaud them for not disclosing it this is honourable.
 

Jimmy Firecracker

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Two days until Game 4. The next time Nylander takes the ice it better mean he’s playing. This is such a bizarre situation. What kind of injury has one able to test out their body yet return with a negative verdict multiple times? If he couldn’t even play game 3 why was he even bothering testing himself out before Game 2?

It’s just so stupid. No one can give a straight answer out of fear Boston will exploit any information, we watch him on the ice with baited breath hoping he’ll play, and we get to watch our offence struggle without him. Played all 82 games and failed to not only hit 100 points (while looking like complete shit for the last month en route) he couldn’t even stay healthy for the games that matter. This organization is so unserious.
 

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The team has said for several days that he might or might not play, and that it's a game time decision, but people complain that they aren't told it's 'day-to-day'. Duh?

Most (every?) player after an injury tries it out in practice first to see if it's ok to play, but there's something wrong if Willy practices but doesn't play?

The team says they won't tell what it is, which is normal in the playoffs, but because it's Toronto (or maybe because it's Nylander), that's a sign of something else, like maybe the team decided to randomly lie about one player?

He's not wearing a non-contact jersey, so it must be a concussion (or must not be a not non-concussion?) Red flag, red herring, or red jersey - I'm sure I red at least one of them here?

The team said he was fine during the last game, but woke up the next day with something wrong, so it must have been bothering him for weeks, or they decided to punish his not hitting 100 (even though he was obviously trying, probably too hard), or maybe for no reason they decided to sit their second best player when they needed him the most.

His mother is telling complete strangers that she doesn't have a son?

Did I get all the major bizarre conspiracy theories?

Oops - the fact that nobody in the media has reported what the team has not told them proves that the media is (incompetent? corrupt? hiding something?)
 
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TheGreenTBer

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Just the fact that no one in the media has reported what the deal is with Nylander's injury should highlight the crisis in the hockey media today.

Miss the days when the media's job was to find out the truth and report it to the world. Don't for a second think that most in the media knows what is going on, but they are servants to whatever the team and players want so they don't do their job.

They media don't serve a purpose anymore. I don't see why they continue to get free access to games. Well, I do, they just echo the PR Department
Agreed on all of this.

They don't want to lose their access, but in the process they have lost their relevance.
 

Squiffy

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There's a lot of nuts in this thread, and I'm not touching it. But down 2-1, now it is time to play if you can play, not any time left to hold back.

This is no comment on first three games this week. Understand taking them if you need to take. Just saying, now is the time you go if you can, if you can't you can't. And that is how it is going to be.
 

MilkofthePoppy

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If he's not back Saturday void his contract.

In non-socialist sports leagues where big market teams are allowed to thrive instead of being forced to support the minnows this is possible. You should be able to tear up an athlete's contract for underperforming or if they are made of glass.
 

JamieG19

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Agreed on all of this.

They don't want to lose their access, but in the process they have lost their relevance.
Exactly! Take someone like Chris Johnston who basically works for the team. The Leafs PR department could tweet what he does. You couldn't tell the difference. We don't really need "Reporter Chris" :laugh:
 
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Rob Brown

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There are plenty of instances where players have skated for less than a week before being deemed ready to go.

Yeah it could also not be a Freddy Andersen. Not sure why you're speculating so much, you know as much as anyone else here. Making up hypotheticals doesn't help anything.
 
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Squiffy

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In non-socialist sports leagues where big market teams are allowed to thrive instead of being forced to support the minnows this is possible. You should be able to tear up an athlete's contract for underperforming or if they are made of glass.
If pigs had wings they could fly.

Not that I disagree, but might as well shout at clouds.

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In the mean time, gotta play the hand dealt by the rules of the game.
 
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TheGreenTBer

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Exactly! Take someone like Chris Johnston who basically works for the team. The Leafs PR department could tweet what he does. You couldn't tell the difference. We don't really need "Reporter Chris" :laugh:
And all those Dubas bootlickers too..they made me sick.

It's like, you have to either be a total troll or a total fanboy these days and there's no in between. It blows.
 

ZEBROA

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PP suck and PK suck. He might help on PP. But it has sucked with and without him. If Matthews and Marner dont score on 5ppl, Nylander probably wont help. Are they to static?

I hope he can play saturday, but he will not be in game shape, and absolutly not playoff game shape. It will at least make the other top players feel better about themself, without needing to step up at all.
 

Squiffy

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Really could use him if for nothing else then entries on PP. I bet he goes game 4, because now its time to play if can. Wasn't first three.
 

Rob Brown

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So let's take Keefe's words at face value:





Three games in a row Nylander is a possibility depending on how he feels. Nylander would not be a possibility if the medical staff would not clear him.

I am taking it at face value and assuming the decision is up to Nylander, as Keefe has been suggesting for 3 games in a row.


I'd imagine the convo like this:

'Hey Willy, how are you feeling after practice?'
'Better, but my <insert body part here> is still bothering me.'
'Ok, better not risk making it even worse. Let's give it one more day.'

And somehow in your mind that is him 'not wanting to play'. The way you are talking is that he mentally just doesn't want to do it when in reality he's probably just not 100% recovered from whatever is injured. To me it sounds like a joint decision between him and the team and largely based on how he feels physically, and again, the way you are talking makes it sound like he's fine and just doesn't want to play hockey.
 

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