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Speculation: Will we see a significant trade before the season starts?

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LEAFANFORLIFE23

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So we are 11 days from the start and usually by this time rosters are set and our 1st trade usually happens around American thanksgiving but that might not be the case this year might be a little different.

This year Rosters aren't set there are still several RFA players not signed and a couple of them have demanded trades.

We have Johnny Hockey, who I have no doubt will be signed because Calgary has no choice, without him they don't make the playoffs.


We have Jocob Trouba who has come out publicly and demanded a trade

We have Tobias Reider who has demanded a trade

and we have the ducks who are reported to be in trade talks with a. eastern team to clear money to sign their own key RFA players

So I have to wonder are we going to see more activity leading up to the season than we normally would? because I think we might specifically from the ducks because they are a budget team and they do have 2 key players to re sign.

it will be interesting to see what happens with Trouba and Reider because I think those guys could help a lot of teams I am just not convinced Trouba is a top pair guy yet however he's certainly a top 4 with the potential to be a top 2.
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I'd say yes, especially if you include slightly after the season starts.
 
Yup. The Ducks really painted themselves in a corner, they are desperate to unload salary at a time when a lot of teams have already spent their money.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
So we are 11 days from the start and usually by this time rosters are set and our 1st trade usually happens around American thanksgiving but that might not be the case this year might be a little different.

This year Rosters aren't set there are still reversal RFA players not signed and a couple of them have demanded trades.

We have Johnny Hockey, who I have no doubt will be signed because Calgary has no choice, without him they don't make the playoffs.


We have Jocob Trouba who has come out publicly and demanded a trade

We have Tobias Reider who has demanded a trade

and we have the ducks who are reported to be in trade talks with a. eastern team to clear money to sign their own key RFA players

So I have to wonder are we going to see more activity leading up to the season than we normally would? because I think we might specifically from the ducks because they are a budget team and they do have 2 key players to re sign.

it will be interesting to see what happens with Trouba and Reider because I think those guys could help a lot of teams I am just not convinced Trouba is a top pair guy yet however he's certainly a top 4 with the potential to be a top 2.
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Trouba isn't getting moved. I think he reluctantly signs with the Jets. If he were going to be traded, it would've happened. Now that he came out his value is lower, and Chevy isn't going to take less than what he is worth.

The Ducks seem like they MUST move someone. Whether it's a salary move or Lindholm/Rakell, they will be making a trade. Wouldn't be surprised if they are forced to add Ritchie or Montour to one of their bad deals, just like Florida did. Maybe there is a lesser prospect to move (Larsson?).
 
Big trad3 happen8ng...no.

Secondary trades happening due to an injury bug or concern of a player getting claimed on waivers.
 
johna2626 said:
Trouba isn't getting moved. I think he reluctantly signs with the Jets. If he were going to be traded, it would've happened. Now that he came out his value is lower, and Chevy isn't going to take less than what he is worth.

The Ducks seem like they MUST move someone. Whether it's a salary move or Lindholm/Rakell, they will be making a trade. Wouldn't be surprised if they are forced to add Ritchie or Montour to one of their bad deals, just like Florida did. Maybe there is a lesser prospect to move (Larsson?).
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Even if he signs, he is still getting moved at some point you can't have a guy thAt doesn't want to be there in that locker room. Encaustic eventually they become a cancer, Case in Point, Evander Kane.

As for the ducks ha they HAVE to move someone you can't go into the season without Limdholm and Rakell signed not only that but even if they weren't a budget team they have 7.5 million in cap space that's not enough to sign both guys unless they both take bridge deals

They are in a tough spot
 
Probably not.
Most teams have plenty to occupy themselves with at this time of year and most teams addressed needs during free agency and trades throughout the summer.
 
Define significant?

If I had to bet money, I think we'll see someone moved before the season starts. At the same point, I wouldn't be too surprised if nothing big happened.

Teams were apparently discouraged from pulling the trigger on trades during the WCOH so GMs could have very well been working on things during that period. There are still teams that have moving parts cap/budget wise that have to be sorted out in order to sign star RFAs like Anaheim and Tampa.

At the very least, we'll see someone moved when one of these teams cracks and gives their RFA what they want.
 
There's always trades. Whether they be a waiver eligible guy for a team being moved for a 3rd, instead of an big RFA, then yeah.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
Even if he signs, he is still getting moved at some point you can't have a guy thAt doesn't want to be there in that locker room. Encaustic eventually they become a cancer, Case in Point, Evander Kane.

As for the ducks ha they HAVE to move someone you can't go into the season without Limdholm and Rakell signed not only that but even if they weren't a budget team they have 7.5 million in cap space that's not enough to sign both guys unless they both take bridge deals

They are in a tough spot
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The difference is that Trouba seems to have a good relationship with his teammates, unlike Kane. Trouba has also said his decision to ask for a trade isn't because of the city or team - it's to do with his role.
 
Something around Trouba for Gardiner (RHD for LHD) then JVR (50%retained) for Fowler (cap space + LW for LHD) makes too much sense and has been relatively accepted by all 3 fanbases so far.
 
I would think Trouba is traded. That's probably the only significant one.

A dman might get traded from Philly if Provorov makes the team, but I wouldn't classify a 38 year old Mark Streit getting traded for a draft pick as significant.
 
I say yes.

Anaheim has to be the team. The wing depth has really thinned out in recent years (their 4th-6th wingers are major questions marks right now), they need some more skill, they have a clear surplus of good young D and payroll concerns.
 
Will the oil finally understand that they WON'T get a ton of Yak. Yak has asked twice for a trade, he is NOT a happy guy with the OIL. Sure try to get what you can for him but the joke is over by now. The offers you got are the offers your going to get and that's it. PICK ONE and move on already and before the season starts and Yak starts shooting on his OWN NET.
 
The Podium said:
Something around Trouba for Gardiner (RHD for LHD) then JVR (50%retained) for Fowler (cap space + LW for LHD) makes too much sense and has been relatively accepted by all 3 fanbases so far.
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Trading our only established first line talent does not make sense, add that management has said he is not available. If we make a trade it would more likely involve Bozak, prospects and/or picks.

It's been said over and over, we are supposed to be sheltering our kids, removing a talent like JVR from the line up removes that from them. Obviously Matthews will learn more and have more success if he is setting up JVR than if he has to try and make one of our cup dumps into a 20+ goal scorer.

We are rebuilding, we do not have to give up a core piece to solve our RHD problem just yet. We still do not know what we have and we have not really allowed the time to solve the problem internally.
 
BlueBaron said:
Trading our only established first line talent does not make sense, add that management has said he is not available. If we make a trade it would more likely involve Bozak, prospects and/or picks.

It's been said over and over, we are supposed to be sheltering our kids, removing a talent like JVR from the line up removes that from them. Obviously Matthews will learn more and have more success if he is setting up JVR than if he has to try and make one of our cup dumps into a 20+ goal scorer.

We are rebuilding, we do not have to give up a core piece to solve our RHD problem just yet. We still do not know what we have and we have not really allowed the time to solve the problem internally.
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You have to jump on the opportunity when the opportunity arises. Babcock probably wasn't a move for the rebuild, but he was available and Shanny secured our coaching issue. Right now more D are available than there have been in recent years. Yes you can draft one, but this draft is shaping up to be forward heavy, so unless the Leafs tank for Liljegren the D may only be solved through a trade. We still have enough talent to insulate the kids. Yes not to the extent of JVR but enough. Rielly and Zaitsev on the other hand will be like deers caught in the headlights. Do you want another season of Rielly second guessing his partner (Hunwick or Marincin) or on his offside? Or do you want a relatively established RHD to pair with him to give him offensive freedom? If you do that then Zaitsev is left exposed and it'll likely cost Gardiner.

Ultimately I feel more comfortable sacrificing offensive talent as they are in a better position to succeed then our young D.
 
RC51 said:
Will the oil finally understand that they WON'T get a ton of Yak. Yak has asked twice for a trade, he is NOT a happy guy with the OIL. Sure try to get what you can for him but the joke is over by now. The offers you got are the offers your going to get and that's it. PICK ONE and move on already and before the season starts and Yak starts shooting on his OWN NET.
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ok....
 
trouba and fowler are they only significant players who will or could be traded anytime soon

both to teams in the eastern conference

no idea what teams will be involved
 
Unbiasedd said:
Trouba --> Toronto
Gaudreau --> Philly
Kucherov --> Nashville
JVR --> Anaheim
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I'll put $100 that none of those happen.

Winnipeg will ask for Reilly, Toronto declines, Toronto offers Gardiner, Winnipeg declines, Winnipeg counters with Gardiner and a 1st, Toronto declines, then counters with Gardiner and a mid-prospect, Winnipeg declines, phone call over.

Philly doesn't have anything that'll interest Calgary for Gaudreau. Maybe Giroux, but it can be argued that Giroux has passed his peak, while Gaudreau hasn't reached his yet.

Tampa will want Forsberg for Kucherov, Nashville declines citing it as a pretty lateral move, they'd rather keep their own young superstar who's currently under contract.

JVR to Anaheim is the only one that makes some sense, but I don't see it happening as Anaheim will want to shed salary, not take more on.
 
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