Will Scouch of Scouching Report has Announced He is Quitting

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

His WHL numbers are pretty bad though?

Dallas gets the same level of performance from a #179 selection.. and this guy is supposed to be a top five pick of the draft? Come on..

The dude was playing mens league and sucked, so he went to a lesser mens league and sucked, now he is playing against 16 year old kids and doing average.

Why are people thinking that is something amazing?

As for Scouch, I enjoyed his videos and content that's too bad.

How are his WHL numbers bad?? He's one of the most productive players on a PPG basis and has been the best player on the best team in junior hockey.

You Finns are obsessed with hating on this guy. This comment is pure ignorance.

 

[Lavar Ball]

His WHL numbers are pretty bad though?

Dallas gets the same level of performance from a #179 selection.. and this guy is supposed to be a top five pick of the draft? Come on..

The dude was playing mens league and sucked, so he went to a lesser mens league and sucked, now he is playing against 16 year old kids and doing average.

Why are people thinking that is something amazing?

1.52 PPG... leading all 2022 draftees in the WHL yet it's average... So everyone drafted last year playing in the WHL sucks then? Honestly laughable logic, don't even know why I bother responding to something like this

Also worth noting that Seminoff is 4th on is own team in PPG (Stankoven, Zellweger, Bankier) while Lambert leads Seattle in PPG since arriving

 

[MrHeiskanen]

How are his WHL numbers bad?? He's one of the most productive players on a PPG basis and has been the best player on the best team in junior hockey.

You Finns are obsessed with hating on this guy. This comment is pure ignorance.

Compare his numbers to Stankoven, Bedard, good prospects.. his numbers after playing multiple seasons IN A MENS LEAGUE are bad. Yes.

People can't type "He is a top 5 prospect" then not put up top numbers??

PS. Not Finnish

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Compare his numbers to Stankoven, Bedard, good prospects.. his numbers after playing multiple seasons IN A MENS LEAGUE are bad. Yes.

Why would you compare his numbers to Bedard?? Yeah no **** he's not as good as Bedard.

Stankoven is 20 years old, and has been one of the best junior hockey players in the world in the last 2 years.

He's outproducing Dylan Guenther, the 8th overall pick in 2021 who was playing in the NHL this season, and is his own linemate.

People can't type "He is a top 5 prospect" then not put up top numbers??

He is putting up top numbers. He's been the most productive in the WHL player from his draft.

Your post reeks of ignorance, you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

You just said Stankoven is an overager then told others they don't know what they are talking about. Man that is funny.

 

[TopC0rner]

Say what you will, but for 20 years, their final rankings would have 24-28 of the top 30-32 correct. And their missed first rounders were often gone by picks 40-45

They had one of the smallest budgets in the industry and absolutely came by everything based on their merit. Company was started in Dennis’ basement in small town Nova Scotia, never being propped up by connections or huge budgets.

I would disagree that the success or quality of a publication should be tied to what the NHL teams do on draft day. I remember that ISS was the only publication having Zach Hyman on their list.

Back to Scouching, I think he was entertaining and his videos would show prospects to the public. Too bad he is quitting.

 

[WayneGretzky]

I would disagree that the success or quality of a publication should be tied to what the NHL teams do on draft day. I remember that ISS was the only publication having Zach Hyman on their list.

Back to Scouching, I think he was entertaining and his videos would show prospects to the public. Too bad he is quitting.

Many publications I would agree, but ISS was a scouting/ranking agency that was subscribed to by every NHL team, to some extent, there needed be some correlation between their rankings and what happens on draft day, that was the goal, and they achieved that nearly every year. Consistently projecting 85-95% of the top 30 guys every year for decades.

Anze Kopitar also credited ISS for him being drafted so high.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

You just said Stankoven is an overager then told others they don't know what they are talking about. Man that is funny.

I said he's 20 years old, which is he is...

But go on telling me why Lambert's WHL numbers are bad. Lol, maybe go back to the main boards.

 

[Canucks LB]

Enjoyed his content, its a loss for sure.
Anybody else to follow?

 

[lanky]

Enjoyed his content, its a loss for sure.
Anybody else to follow?

NHL Draft Pros posts prospect analysis on YouTube.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

The only problem with his analyses was that he didn't acknowledge or factor in the HUGE blindspot in his analysis, which is the player personalities: coachability, off-ice approach, effort in practice, all the really important stuff that we don't see at home. That's the main reason for the chasm between independent/internet scout rankings and team scout rankings.

 

[lanky]

The only problem with his analyses was that he didn't acknowledge or factor in the HUGE blindspot in his analysis, which is the player personalities: coachability, off-ice approach, effort in practice, all the really important stuff that we don't see at home. That's the main reason for the chasm between independent/internet scout rankings and team scout rankings.

How could he factor that in?
NHL scouts have a travel budget and a team of scouts to work with. They can chat with prospects, their team mates and their coaches. Video scouts can't do any of that.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

The only problem with his analyses was that he didn't acknowledge or factor in the HUGE blindspot in his analysis, which is the player personalities: coachability, off-ice approach, effort in practice, all the really important stuff that we don't see at home. That's the main reason for the chasm between independent/internet scout rankings and team scout rankings.

I think all that stuff definitely matters, but I'm not convinced that scouts / NHL teams are really very good at determining whether or not a perceived attitude problem is actually a problem that will hold a player back.

 

[EdJovanovski]

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I think all that stuff definitely matters, but I'm not convinced that scouts / NHL teams are really very good at determining whether or not a perceived attitude problem is actually a problem that will hold a player back.

Just talking to a player's coach candidly for a half hour can tell you as much as 100 hours of video. And I'm not talking about attitude problems, I'm talking about likelihood to reach his ceiling, stuff like that.

Habits, family history, non-hockey IQ, and other elements like that are all hugely important pieces of info when trying to project a 17 year old out to when he's 25.

How could he factor that in?
NHL scouts have a travel budget and a team of scouts to work with. They can chat with prospects, their team mates and their coaches. Video scouts can't do any of that.

He can't -- which is probably the only reason his assessments aren't worth that much for projecting players 10 years out. Same goes with any amateur scouts.

I may be wrong, I'm just reading between the lines of what I've been hearing good GMs say when they talk about drafting. But it's the reason why I try to post as many coach interviews in these prospect threads (see the one I posted from Simashev's coach!).

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

I caught a few of his streams and enjoyed his contents. Like most hockey fans who follow prospects, there isn't a list where you'll agree with what he says. That being said, he was committed in providing a lot of infos and assessment on a wide range of prospects. The work he put in was invaluable and it's a shame that he's calling it quits.

 

[93LEAFS]

The only problem with his analyses was that he didn't acknowledge or factor in the HUGE blindspot in his analysis, which is the player personalities: coachability, off-ice approach, effort in practice, all the really important stuff that we don't see at home. That's the main reason for the chasm between independent/internet scout rankings and team scout rankings.

Also much harder to scout skating and hockey IQ from junior games where the camera is fixed and will always follow the puck without in person viewings. While for fans the best seats in hockey are generally viewed as center ice, most scouts for watching prospects tend to like the corners 10 or so rows up. Like, the camera is rarely going to heavily focus on a forward who doesn't get a point on the play but drags the defender out of position with his off-puck movement opening a passing lane that leads to the goal and such or tons of tiny IQ plays positioning wise. Its not like College football where you can easily scout from college games because you can get access to all-22 film for pretty much any major D1 program, and since all games are played on Saturday essentially at the same time, you have to watch film since scouting by any other means is a nightmare logistically.

 

[themelkman]

I caught a few of his streams and enjoyed his contents. Like most hockey fans who follow prospects, there isn't a list where you'll agree with what he says. That being said, he was committed in providing a lot of infos and assessment on a wide range of prospects. The work he put in was invaluable and it's a shame that he's calling it quits.

That being said, I can understand with the amount of work he was putting in that he would want to get more money for it. I dont know how his patreon worked or what he mightve made, but selling it to teams is probably worth a lot more.

He even admitted the channel and content never grew to what he wanted them too.

 

[vildurson]

I am just really annoyed that he is removing his content he made. It just feels like he is acknowledging that he was wrong in his opinions by doing that. I just wish he would have left his work still available for others but he has right to do whatever he wants with his public work since he owns it.

I wonder if he is still continuing same process privately but selling that data to teams and had to take them off as a condition?

I respected his opinions even though I might not always agree on them. They were good pointers on how to figure out what you want to look at players.

Oh well, all the good for him and his future endeavours.

 

[WADEugottaBELAKthat]

My absolute favourite content-provider the last few years. Good luck to him.

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

That being said, I can understand with the amount of work he was putting in that he would want to get more money for it. I dont know how his patreon worked or what he mightve made, but selling it to teams is probably worth a lot more.

He even admitted the channel and content never grew to what he wanted them too.

For sure, the bolded makes a lot of sense.

 

[spfan]

Sucks he's not gonna stream anymore. I wonder why he didn't wait till the end of the draft at least?
Maybe got picked up by a team?
Maybe just something personal.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

I hope he got a job and didn’t just burn out. Producing internet content is a rough business to be in, hyper competitive competition for eyeballs.

 

[brakeyawself]

Why delete all his YouTube videos if he is quitting all together? Leave them up, you worked hard on them.

I’m just speculating here but perhaps he got hired by a pro team and a stipulation was he had to go dark on the internet?

odd decision.

Anyway, always enjoyed his content even if it was flawed at times, he‘ll be missed.

That's not a bad theory. It's incredibly odd to take all the old vids down. Unless, he hates hockey now or something lol.

 

[Killerjas]

I hope he got a job and didn’t just burn out. Producing internet content is a rough business to be in, hyper competitive competition for eyeballs.

He already has a job, this was his hobby.

So weird, years of content just gone. Website gone, all data gone. Atleast I got all the spreadsheets from the 2018 draft til 2023, but I was looking forward to the 2023 draft sheet.

It is a bit of a dick move to just private all videos, people paid to support him...