The same team is not allowed to sign a player that they just bought out. I think it has to be a year later or something
Speculation: Will Richards Be A King Come Next Season?
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The same team is not allowed to sign a player that they just bought out. I think it has to be a year later or something
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DryIslandBartender
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For the Nth time, Richie isn't going anywhere. He has been great defensively and a great leader in the locker room.
Guys like Herby are armchair GM's that think think they know better than DL, if I recall wanting DL gone because he wouldn't play ball with Cammy in contract negotiations.
Guys like Herby are armchair GM's that think think they know better than DL, if I recall wanting DL gone because he wouldn't play ball with Cammy in contract negotiations.
Herby
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Everyone armchair GM's on this board, but nice of you to single me out.
And how can you say he has been good defensively? Do you just completely choose to ignore every stat used to judge defensive play? Or are you one of those people like Hawk Harrelson who just refuses to believe them?
Since no one else seems to want to answer the difficult questions, maybe you will, but judging on your posting past probably not.
- How many other teams in the NHL spend almost $6 million on a bottom six center?
- Are you willing to lose Gaborik over keeping an almost $6 million a year bottom line center?
- Have you watched Jake Muzzin play this post season? How about Alec Martinez? They make a combined $2.1 million this season, want to guess how much they are going to make after next season when their contracts are up?
- How about Toffoli and Pearson, they are making a combined $1.4 million this season, you think that is going to stay the same when they are both up for new contracts after next season?
- Kopitar's contract is up after 2016, he will need to be signed to a new, huge Getzlaf caliber contract, do you not agree?
- What about adding a defenseman to replace Mitchell or even re-signing Mitchell?
So where does all the money come from DyIslandBartender? Please tell us where it comes from, but again since it's you that is posting it's probably just another pointless hit and run post saying "MR is going nowhere" and you'll say anyone who talks about the long term contract situation "armchair GM's"
Anyone can else can jump in and play "armchair GM" also...please someone come up with a cap situation beyond next season that keeps the Kings together that includes Mike Richards $6 million a year cap hit? But be careful, you might be criticized for doing it if a certain someone doesn't agree with it.
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Herby
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Herby
How could Blake have known?
Funny this actually reminds me of arguing in college classes with people who thought they had it all figured out. They knew what it was going to take to build a Utopian society, except for that nagging part about how to pay for it. Only difference is people aren't saying to take it from the Maple Leafs or Rangers.
And I am not even being critical of MR's play in these playoffs, except for the couple of games where Sutter put him back in the top six he has been pretty good in his fourth line role. I think he is a pretty darn good fourth line center, butlet's be honest, and you know this RP, every time he has been moved up to the 2nd line again he has failed miserably, so that tells me he is probably never returning to that level, I think Carter is here to stay as 2nd line C. The fact remains in a salary cap league you just can't justify giving a fourth line center almost $6 million a year for six seasons.
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damacles1156
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Can't,
It's against the CBA to resign the player to a different contract after buying him out.
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Hopefully the Kings after buying Richards out, don't turn around and give Gabo a stupid contract.
Ollie Weeks
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My only concern is the effect on the locker-room.
And I guess possibly the chance of a bounce back to form. I love this center depth so much I'm hesitant to relinquish it, its arguably more (currently) distinguishing to Kings hockey than our blueline.
And I guess possibly the chance of a bounce back to form. I love this center depth so much I'm hesitant to relinquish it, its arguably more (currently) distinguishing to Kings hockey than our blueline.
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Well, the only other thing I can think of is to make a shady deal with another team. If there's a team that's struggling to make the cap floor, we might be able to do a deal where we trade them Richards and picks and they trade him back to us while retaining a portion of Richards' salary. That's pretty much the ONLY way around paying Richards too much.... I mean, I want him on this team, but not at that price......
Ollie Weeks
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Good article from a couple days ago.
What's The Deal With Mike Richards?
Basically his powerplay production has taken a drastic hit since he left Philadelphia. No surprise there, since our regular season powerplay was completely dreadful, and there are a few folks higher on the food chain than himself. And it does show a consistent (but much slower) rate of decline at ES over the past few years, which is not great but an expectation that comes with age.
What's The Deal With Mike Richards?
Basically his powerplay production has taken a drastic hit since he left Philadelphia. No surprise there, since our regular season powerplay was completely dreadful, and there are a few folks higher on the food chain than himself. And it does show a consistent (but much slower) rate of decline at ES over the past few years, which is not great but an expectation that comes with age.
Richards is going NOWHERE. Lombardi has a man crush on him. Instead of doing debating about situations that will never happen. Those members of our fan base that want Mike gone or think he might be traded or bought out need to come to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
Dear Lord baby Jesus, lyin' there in your ghost manger, just lookin' at your Baby Einstein developmental videos, learnin' 'bout shapes and colors. I would like to thank you for all you have done for our LA Kings, and also please let Mike Richards party like it's 2009, check that, play like it's 2009 next season.
Amen
Dear Lord baby Jesus, lyin' there in your ghost manger, just lookin' at your Baby Einstein developmental videos, learnin' 'bout shapes and colors. I would like to thank you for all you have done for our LA Kings, and also please let Mike Richards party like it's 2009, check that, play like it's 2009 next season.
Amen
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yankeeking
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how many times are we going to say get rid of THAT GUY, after the playoffs last year some on here said get rid of kopi because that 6,8 will be an albatross if he has another bad reg. season, when he was obviously hurt last year, hell he couldn't beat zues to a couple of pucks right. MR is one of the most competitive guys in the league and at times this season he was changing 30-35 seconds into his shift, he has always had great hands and simple passes were bouncing off his stick and how many fights did he have or even big checks that turned momentum in games, I saw every game this season and at least 25 live and do not remember any so what about given him a chance to come back next year before we lose a guy that has won everywhere he has been and when normal sets the tone. As armchair GM'S most have been wrong a bout the JWILL trade, the MR trade ( and do not say it is too soon to judge it because we have the cup win and challenged so far for two more), the zues signing the first year, how much it would cost to sign JJ, about stoll all together, etc etc etc enjoy the site for what it is a chance to talk hockey with fellow kings fans but don't be surprised when someone disagrees or gets tired of all the negative posts especially with the timing of this whole thread, take it from a very long time fan this is by far the golden era of kings hockey, the days with 99 were great but failed, and the early days with 16,18,11,30 were great times but also failed to deliver the Cup so as bonified contenders this is freaking great times. GO KINGS GO
bobber
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Ritchie is probably playing injured. Give us a deal in Beantown and we will gladly take him off your hands. He has been a winner every where he played. Kid's got heart. That alone is the price of admittance. Think of how the stress level will go down when you see him in a Bruins jersey. No problem.
Ziggy Stardust
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Not sure how many noticed that Richards' pass to Muzzin is what really setup the Brown PP goal last night, or how damn good he's been on the PK. He was on the ice for a goal, but that was mainly due to the Martinez-Greene pairing failing to get the puck out when they had the chance to.
Richards + Clifford +? for Marchand?
I like throwing stuff like this out there just to gauge value. Really I do not think Richards will be traded unless he asks to be traded to place where he will get top 6 minutes.
Nefarious
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I agree.
This would also be a major concern for any actual GM too or at the very least it should be. There are loads of reasons to not like MR's contract price but here we are 3 seasons in to him being on the team and playing in the final four. Now I am not saying that MR is THE reason that we are here but I am saying that this team spends an awful lot of time talking about this team.
How important is it to the core group of players on this team that our GM has done right by his players? I have to believe that it is a very important thing. So MR's contract may well be over valued and could cost us the ability to add a player without bleeding a little bit somewhere else but that is the way things go sometimes.
As for MR the player I think he has more then earned a chance at having a come back season with us. This year wasn't great for him at times but he has been a solid contributor now and then too so it isn't like he is a total write off.
I would give him this coming season before I would think about moving him and his contract. Give him at least the same amount of rope that we have given Stoll while he made the adjustments that he had to make to his game before he could become the player he is for us today.
To me though the most important thing is that MR and the rest of the boys are playing right now for the cup and have a good shot at getting to the finals for the second time in 3 seasons and have made it to the WCF's for the 3rd time in 3 seasons so this is more of an offseason topic to me then anything else.
Also, how many severe changes do we really need to be making? I mean sure, there is cause for concern coming up but then every single team in the league goes through those exact same concerns every offseason. We are at worst one of the top 4 teams in the league and have been for the past 3 seasons. However this goes down I have faith that it will be handled in the exactly correct manner that it should be.
Team/locker room chemistry is a critical part of a teams success and significantly more so when it comes to championship caliber teams. Those things have to be considered along with the cap/cba and each players importance to the overall success of the team.
Meh, MR isn't our biggest concern.
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He doesn't match up so well against the best Top 6's anymore, but I have absolutely nothing but love for Richards. He brings it hard every night, incredible team player, and besides... Mike Richards centering your 4th line, are you effing kidding me? He's really more like 2.5C caliber, plus he doesn't biatch or moan about being on the 4th line; he buys into the idea of rolling 4 lines and he is THE reason we can do it. I ain't even mad that he is an expensive bottom 6 player, I just really hope Dean can figure out a good way to keep him and most of our other core pieces.
Hopefully all the players will be willing to give a little hometown discount, because they really seem to love playing with each other and they're damn good at it.
Hopefully all the players will be willing to give a little hometown discount, because they really seem to love playing with each other and they're damn good at it.
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Unless the Kings really crap the bed in this series or the next, I just don't see Richards being moved unless someone overpays for whatever reason. I don't believe a bounce back season is out of the question, so I think we'll see Richards as a King for at least another season.
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I agree with this. Our Bottom 6 is vicious; we roll 4 lines very successfully, and MR has everything to do with that.
I mean... we went from Colin Fraser (who described himself as a "poor man's Mike Richards" once) to the ACTUAL Mike Richards at the same position. Talk about an upgrade!!
Herby
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The Kings can absolutely afford to keep Richards, but if they keep Richards then one of the following happens.
1. Gaborik isn't re-signed
2. Brown is traded
1. Gaborik isn't re-signed
2. Brown is traded
