Then the situations weren't virtually identical. That's like saying I avoided a crash driving 40mph around a bend but got into a crash driving around the bend at 60mph.
Will Marc Andre Fleury Choke Again?
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Then the situations weren't virtually identical. That's like saying I avoided a crash driving 40mph around a bend but got into a crash driving around the bend at 60mph.
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There are probably people in the Penguins organization that were Habs fans in the 80s/90s. Patrick Roy took the Habs to the Cup in 86, stumbled at times, lost in the finals in 89, then proceeded to put up strong stats in the regular season but get bumped by the Bruins almost every year until 93. They must all be waiting for Fleury's 93.
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I ****ing hope so. Patrick Roy still today 15 years later is still better than Fleury
And Patrick did not have any stars in Montreal back then. Just look at those 2 Cup teams mostly the 93 one what a joke of a roster. It was all Patrick
Fleury can barelly win us 1 hockey game
Well yeah, I usually also don't have a problem with how he plays weak wristers from the blueline. But I had a problem with the one in overtime last game. Crazy, I know.
Don'tcry4mejanhrdina
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It's such a strange analogy. The teams both have had are different and Patrick Roy is the farthest thing possible from Fleury. Roy has never lacked confidence, ever. He's cocky, not mentally weak like Fleury. Not to mention he's probably the best playoff goaltender, ever.
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Bernier is a RFA after next year.
He'll probably want out of Toronto after facing 45 shots a night.
Save up some cash and get him.
Pens + Bernier = Lord Stanley.
MAF can be the backup.
He'll probably want out of Toronto after facing 45 shots a night.
Save up some cash and get him.
Pens + Bernier = Lord Stanley.
MAF can be the backup.
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If you want *THIS* guy on your team, you should be taken to the doctor immediately:
http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/488051
http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/488051
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Fleury's not going to stick around to play backup, not while there are more teams in need of a starter than there are starters available. But no team is going to give up any assets for a guy that could be signed for a rock-bottom price out of free agency this summer or next.
As far as Bernier goes, he's an RFA so he's not going to have a choice. Toronto will qualify him, which means that they can match any offer he accepts and he can't refuse it. But here's the biggest problem - offer sheet compensation. If the Pens were to offer him $3.5- to $5-million a year, it'll cost them a 1st + a 3rd in compensation; $5- to $6.75-million a year would cost them a 1st + a 2nd + a 3rd in compensation.
That means that no only would the Pens need the cap space, but they'll have to hold onto at least their 1st + 3rd round picks for 2016. That's going to really hurt them when it comes to the trading block.
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Jets, Blues (I assume they re-sign Miller but who knows), Islanders, Sabres, Capitals (potentially), Minnesota (maybe), Calgary.
Some of those teams may be fine with what they have in house, but those are the teams who have question marks in goal.
ok there is a rumor, (I think Madden said that Stempniak told him) that one of the Penguins D told Fleury to play the puck.
*IF* that is true that puts a different light on things. As if the puck was coming off the glass and the D is telling him to play the puck regardless that's a huge shame on Letang/Scuderi.
We'll probably never know for sure on that. There is a difference between, Fleury failed to steal the game because of a horrendous gaff. and. Fleury lost the game even though the Pens were out playing the other team.
so that's progress right?
*IF* that is true that puts a different light on things. As if the puck was coming off the glass and the D is telling him to play the puck regardless that's a huge shame on Letang/Scuderi.
We'll probably never know for sure on that. There is a difference between, Fleury failed to steal the game because of a horrendous gaff. and. Fleury lost the game even though the Pens were out playing the other team.
so that's progress right?
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ok there is a rumor, (I think Madden said that Stempniak told him) that one of the Penguins D told Fleury to play the puck.
*IF* that is true that puts a different light on things. As if the puck was coming off the glass and the D is telling him to play the puck regardless that's a huge shame on Letang/Scuderi.
We'll probably never know for sure on that. There is a difference between, Fleury failed to steal the game because of a horrendous gaff. and. Fleury lost the game even though the Pens were out playing the other team.
so that's progress right?
Even if we assume that the tying goal wasn't at all his fault (which is ridiculous in my opinion), what happened after that? Did someone tell him to be incredibly shaky on every single shot in overtime and then let a weak wrister from the blue line beat him?
Even if we ignore the tying goal, he never gave his team any chance to win the game in overtime.
Is it a choke if it's expected, and the norm? I mean, technically he choked in game 4, but if people weren't expecting it sooner rather than later, they've been living under a rock for the past 5 years.
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Jets have publicly stated they're sticking with Pavelec. Posturing maybe? Perhaps. Jake Allen is going to at LEAST be the backup in St. Louis next season, but he's being groomed to be the starter. I think Miller will end up where he's always wanted to be, Anaheim. The Isles DEFINITELY need a goaltender, so I could see them have interest in Fleury. Buffalo, too. I can even see Washington, depending on the shakedown in their front office. I think Minny likes Kuemper and Harding and Backstrom are still in the picture, too. And I think the Flames will run with the Finnish duo of Ramo-Ortio.
Also, gotta believe Hiller will land somewhere as a No. 1...I'm betting on Edmonton. Halak should land somewhere as at least a 1A. Ditto Martin Brodeur, who wants to keep playing as well. Then there's James Reimer, who will surely be traded in the off-season. I can see him landing in Winnipeg to challenge Pavelec. Cam Ward will be shopped by Carolina, for sure.
Then there are a few backup openings around the league, and a few third stringers earning a promotion to backup status.
It's going to be an interesting off-season for goaltending, and for a change I anticipate Pittsburgh to get involved.
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No way does Miller end up in Anaheim. They are a budget team with two great prospects, one of which is playing well as their starter. Unless Miller says "yeah I'll play for 3mil per" he isn't going to Anaheim.
I wasn't aware that the Jets said they are staying with Pavs. I would think they'd be at the top of the list to want Fleury. While a playoff choker, he would play well enough to give them a chance to make the playoffs.
I can't see Edmonton going for Hiller. They traded for Scrivens and Fasth. That seems like a decent duo.
I wasn't aware that the Jets said they are staying with Pavs. I would think they'd be at the top of the list to want Fleury. While a playoff choker, he would play well enough to give them a chance to make the playoffs.
I can't see Edmonton going for Hiller. They traded for Scrivens and Fasth. That seems like a decent duo.
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Go back and read the first few posts.. some folks, even seasoned posters, were pretty bold about their belief in Fleury.
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ok there is a rumor, (I think Madden said that Stempniak told him) that one of the Penguins D told Fleury to play the puck.
*IF* that is true that puts a different light on things. As if the puck was coming off the glass and the D is telling him to play the puck regardless that's a huge shame on Letang/Scuderi.
We'll probably never know for sure on that. There is a difference between, Fleury failed to steal the game because of a horrendous gaff. and. Fleury lost the game even though the Pens were out playing the other team.
so that's progress right?
It didn't happen. Watch the replay. When the puck is dumped in, both Letang and Scuds are just pivoting as Fleury leaves the net. So they would have had to yell while facing the other way at the blue line (about 60 feet away) in that deafening crowd. Do you really think that sounds feasible?
no doubt the OT winner he should have had. I'm just saying there is more then one hole in the hull of the S.S. Penguins as it goes under the water.
Reading some of the posts it feels like a lot of people think the only reason we haven't been to the SCF every season is because of MAF. While he is a problem, and unless he turns it around and steals some games/super solid he should go.
We should not be glossing over that the BIGGER issue is that we are getting out played, out hit, out shot, out chanced and out game planned by the friggin Blue Jackets for crying out loud. This is a team that is missing 2 of their top players, while we are pretty healthy.
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Earlier in the season I wanted to Shero to get Frederik Andersen. Andersen looked like the real deal when he was on Norfolk. Looking at the potential goalie market, I would take a chance on Andreas Lindback. He hasn't shown much promise for Tampa Bay, but he is still young.
Pittsburgh should look at some younger goaltenders that are somewhat NHL-ready. Matthew Murray, Tristan Jerry, and Eric Hartzell aren't ready for the NHL. Perhaps Vokoun can be re-signed for one more season if he's healthy and ready to go. I don't think Jeff Zatkoff will become anything more than a backup goaltender. But, who knows?
Marc-Andre Fleury needs to get the **** out.
Pittsburgh should look at some younger goaltenders that are somewhat NHL-ready. Matthew Murray, Tristan Jerry, and Eric Hartzell aren't ready for the NHL. Perhaps Vokoun can be re-signed for one more season if he's healthy and ready to go. I don't think Jeff Zatkoff will become anything more than a backup goaltender. But, who knows?
Marc-Andre Fleury needs to get the **** out.
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If you think Lindback is even equivalent to Fleury in any manner, you're going to be sorely disappointed.
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We should not be looking at Lindback. He was brought into Tampa to be the starter and struggled. They traded for Bishop and he took over. Lindback played in the playoffs and sucked. No thanks.
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If they're going to roll with Bishop for a while, and it seems they will, I'd certainly inquire about Gudlevskis or Vasilevskiy though.
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