Will Luchanko crack 30 points if he plays 70+ NHL games in 2024-25?

Will Luchanko crack 30 points if he plays 70+ NHL games in 2024-25?

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 33.3%
  • No

    Votes: 45 71.4%

  • Total voters
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Alex K

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They scored the same number of goals in their respective draft years, only Patrick did it in 35 less games :laugh:.

NP nearly has as many assists in his D minus 1 year as Luchanko had total points in his draft year.
Patrick and Luchanko's birthdays are September 19th and August 21st respectively, so Nolan's D-1 year equals Jett's draft year in terms of age. Add to this that Patrick played on a powerhouse team that won the championship while Luchanko played on a shitty one.
Obviously Patrick was better offensively in juniors but the gap between them is not as huge as the point totals show.
 

Alex K

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Right, Luchanko probably should have gone 2nd overall.
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FLYguy3911

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Patrick and Luchanko's birthdays are September 19th and August 21st respectively, so Nolan's D-1 year equals Jett's draft year in terms of age. Add to this that Patrick played on a powerhouse team that won the championship while Luchanko played on a shitty one.
Obviously Patrick was better offensively in juniors but the gap between them is not as huge as the point totals show.
A big reason that team was a powerhouse was because of Patrick though (MVP when they won the WHL title). No other NHL regulars on that team besides Provorov. Hell Provorov looked like a competent PP contributor with Patrick on the ice.

Also if we are discounting Patrick’s age relative to draft class, consider he was PPG on a “powerhouse” team in his D-2 season fresh out of midget hockey. Jett had 14 points in his first year in the OHL as a first round pick on a less than stellar Guelph team (I.e. plenty of opportunity).

In his draft year Patrick played on a relatively poor Brandon team and posted one of the highest single season involvement rates ever in the modern era of the CHL.

Patrick certainly didn’t set a high bar to clear in the NHL and I don’t really care to rehash those conversations as to why, but we are talking about different levels of prospects here.

Also the rhetoric about Guelph last year has to stop. They were not a great team by any stretch but people talk like they were Niagara. They had a positive record ffs playing in a division with London and Kitchener. And again, a worse roster means more opportunity he may not have gotten elsewhere.
 
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freakydallas13

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A big reason that team was a powerhouse was because of Patrick though (MVP when they won the WHL title). No other NHL regulars on that team besides Provorov. Hell Provorov looked like a competent PP contributor with Patrick on the ice.

Also if we are discounting Patrick’s age relative to draft class, consider he was PPG on a “powerhouse” team in his D-2 season fresh out of midget hockey. Jett had 14 points in his first year in the OHL as a first round pick on a less than stellar Guelph team (I.e. plenty of opportunity).

In his draft year Patrick played on a relatively poor Brandon team and posted one of the highest single season involvement rates ever in the modern era of the CHL.

Patrick certainly didn’t set a high bar to clear in the NHL and I don’t really care to rehash those conversations as to why, but we are talking about different levels of prospects here.

Also the rhetoric about Guelph last year has to stop. They were not a great team by any stretch but people talk like they were Niagara. They had a positive record ffs playing in a division with London and Kitchener. And again, a worse roster means more opportunity he may not have gotten elsewhere.
Well put, comparing Patrick and Luchanko pre-draft is unhinged in my eyes.
 

Alex K

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A big reason that team was a powerhouse was because of Patrick though (MVP when they won the WHL title). No other NHL regulars on that team besides Provorov. Hell Provorov looked like a competent PP contributor with Patrick on the ice.

Also if we are discounting Patrick’s age relative to draft class, consider he was PPG on a “powerhouse” team in his D-2 season fresh out of midget hockey. Jett had 14 points in his first year in the OHL as a first round pick on a less than stellar Guelph team (I.e. plenty of opportunity).

In his draft year Patrick played on a relatively poor Brandon team and posted one of the highest single season involvement rates ever in the modern era of the CHL.

Patrick certainly didn’t set a high bar to clear in the NHL and I don’t really care to rehash those conversations as to why, but we are talking about different levels of prospects here.

Also the rhetoric about Guelph last year has to stop. They were not a great team by any stretch but people talk like they were Niagara. They had a positive record ffs playing in a division with London and Kitchener. And again, a worse roster means more opportunity he may not have gotten elsewhere.
I was responding to a specific comment, that compared Patrick's D-1 season to Luchanko's draft season, I just noted that Nolan was the same age and played with better teammates (which I think benefits more than opportunities on a bad team). Of course they were on different levels as prospects.
 

FLYguy3911

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I was responding to a specific comment, that compared Patrick's D-1 season to Luchanko's draft season, I just noted that Nolan was the same age and played with better teammates (which I think benefits more than opportunities on a bad team). Of course they were on different levels as prospects.
the gap between them is not as huge as the point totals show.
Your original post gave off a different impression. :dunno:
 

Beef Invictus

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I said no, looking at the current Flyers who hit 30+ points as rookies, its a rare feat.

This is why I argued in Patrick's defense when a load of people thought Patrick's rookie season was disappointing; being able to put up 30 points in the NHL fresh off the draft and not getting steamrolled was actually quite a nice success. It is very, very hard for an 18 year old to do. And it's not even a thing I bother looking at rates or games played for; for a kid to even last the season without getting obliterated and injured is a feat on its own...or benched. Half the struggle to getting 30 points is the skill to do so. The other half is managing to stay on the ice enough to do it.

Couturier did 27 points with brutal usage...though lower scoring era

If anybody has a serious expectation of Luchanko hitting 30, that really isn't fair to Luchanko. If he doesn't get close to it that is not a big deal. If he does get close to it that is a tremendously huge deal.
 

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