Trap Jesus
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Post-Game Talk: Wild 4 Bruins 3
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Has Seidenberg ever proven he is a #2 when the #1 wasn't Chara? I don't think he has, although he's certainly going to have the opportunity now. He is a #2-3 guy at his best, and he isn't at his best right now.
My Thoughts.
Defence need to be stabilized.
Chara had some hard times this year... but a bad Chara is still a good top 4.
Right now, other than Hamilton, we are struggling on D. Seidenberg is coming though but it still isn't easy.
We are missing 2 top 4 actually now with Chara injured and JB gone. Same as last year!
Offence starts by down low and good first pass from D. This is really lacking actually and the 53-46-17 line still manage to put points up there ... quite easily I could add.
The 63 - 37 - 18 are ...struggling.
Rask played well - and hat up's to Griffith. Kid is driving the net and gaining time on de DK line. I'm willing to see more!
Bruins need help on defence! It all starts there... it's there identity. Tough D zone..
Our D do not manage well the puck in d zone and they are making bad puck decisions are (that is without stating bad boards pass to forwards, sloppy back door pass D to D, bad turnovers, losing 1 vs 1 battle and I should add are not dangerous in O zone (except 47 and Hamilton)
They need help. How...well that is on what's available and the cap issue - and when it come down to that point... well I don't have the answer - hope Chiarelli do have it!
Defence need to be stabilized.
Chara had some hard times this year... but a bad Chara is still a good top 4.
Right now, other than Hamilton, we are struggling on D. Seidenberg is coming though but it still isn't easy.
We are missing 2 top 4 actually now with Chara injured and JB gone. Same as last year!
Offence starts by down low and good first pass from D. This is really lacking actually and the 53-46-17 line still manage to put points up there ... quite easily I could add.
The 63 - 37 - 18 are ...struggling.
Rask played well - and hat up's to Griffith. Kid is driving the net and gaining time on de DK line. I'm willing to see more!
Bruins need help on defence! It all starts there... it's there identity. Tough D zone..
Our D do not manage well the puck in d zone and they are making bad puck decisions are (that is without stating bad boards pass to forwards, sloppy back door pass D to D, bad turnovers, losing 1 vs 1 battle and I should add are not dangerous in O zone (except 47 and Hamilton)
They need help. How...well that is on what's available and the cap issue - and when it come down to that point... well I don't have the answer - hope Chiarelli do have it!
hubey
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Seth and Looch were good.
Krug's hand looked messed up at the end of the game. Quaider was hurting too.
BAD third.
Bart had a rough night.
No one killed cooke
I am not even going to read through this thread.
Moving on to Buffalo.
Thanks for your thoughts on the game Ladyfan. I always enjoy reading what you saw next to the bench. Have a good evening.
Krejci was money as per usual
Lucic was solid
Dougie and Krug were solid
Marchand and Smith SUCKED
Did Bergy dress?
Lucic was solid
Dougie and Krug were solid
Marchand and Smith SUCKED
Did Bergy dress?
Gonzothe7thDman
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Crazy to think a few short years ago we had
Lucic Krejci Horton
Marchand Bergeron Recchi
Wheeler Seguin Ryder
Still had Boychuk Seids and Chara solidifying the back end.
We've lost significant pieces in the forward group and now with Boychuk gone in the D core. Where are the additions? In a cap world you need players on ELCs contributing in a big way. But for that to happen you need to be able to draft.
All those misses are catching up to Chia
Lucic Krejci Horton
Marchand Bergeron Recchi
Wheeler Seguin Ryder
Still had Boychuk Seids and Chara solidifying the back end.
We've lost significant pieces in the forward group and now with Boychuk gone in the D core. Where are the additions? In a cap world you need players on ELCs contributing in a big way. But for that to happen you need to be able to draft.
All those misses are catching up to Chia
Oates2Neely
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Bingo. Great post. The poor drafting has caught up & bit Chia in the rear
Daishi
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Nobody loses to Buffalo or Carolina. I don't think those games should even award points. They're the kings of tanking this year and they'll make sure McDavid and Eichel are locked up.
Well that was disappointing. This thread is ridiculous by the way.
Bart needs to go.
Seids needs to learn to hit the net.
Quader needs to stop turning it over and butchering the puck.
Bergy's line looks lost.
Griffith is only going to get better and he had a great game well done.
Looch starting to look like his old self, would like him to get angrier.
We need to be BAD again. I want to see them bullying the other team. Get in their heads, we're lacking physicality massively right now, that's were we get goals, Looch puts on some hits and bang bang we score. We need more body's slamming the other team into the boards.
I think Bergy and Marchy are trying to do too much when they're on the rush or have a 2 on 1 going to the net, always looking to make that perfect pass through the crease or through two opposition players, shoot the puck low, get a rebound and be ready. Need to simplify the little things.
I know the JB talk has ben done to death, but I said it at the time and I'll say it now, I would have shipped out Seids before JohnnyB, but I am sure there are overwhelming factors that prevented that scenario.
Onto Buffalo, lets go Bruins, play the entire game with the compete level you show in the dying minutes of games when you're down a goal.
And get well soon Chara and Miller, we need you.
Bart needs to go.
Seids needs to learn to hit the net.
Quader needs to stop turning it over and butchering the puck.
Bergy's line looks lost.
Griffith is only going to get better and he had a great game well done.
Looch starting to look like his old self, would like him to get angrier.
We need to be BAD again. I want to see them bullying the other team. Get in their heads, we're lacking physicality massively right now, that's were we get goals, Looch puts on some hits and bang bang we score. We need more body's slamming the other team into the boards.
I think Bergy and Marchy are trying to do too much when they're on the rush or have a 2 on 1 going to the net, always looking to make that perfect pass through the crease or through two opposition players, shoot the puck low, get a rebound and be ready. Need to simplify the little things.
I know the JB talk has ben done to death, but I said it at the time and I'll say it now, I would have shipped out Seids before JohnnyB, but I am sure there are overwhelming factors that prevented that scenario.
Onto Buffalo, lets go Bruins, play the entire game with the compete level you show in the dying minutes of games when you're down a goal.
And get well soon Chara and Miller, we need you.
ODAAT
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If your a GM, and your looking for a D-man with Cup/playoff experience and Chia comes calling, do you express more interest in a guy coming off major knee surgery or a guy who`s remained pretty healthy throughout his career???
I get the angst with Chia moving JB, but IMO, if you moved Bart/Quaider/Miller or whomever, would it change the return??? I wager it would, but the return would have been far less than 2 second round picks with a potential 3rd rounder which I understand so many despise here as it`s not anyone who can jump into the lineup.
Kelly also coming off a second season with major injuries, again, not a ton of GM`s lining up to take on contracts for players who hadn`t played in some time and Chia needed cap relief
Not in the least bit shocking that this team struggling on the back end
Almost wondering if my suggestion in the summer (which was probably reactionary as he pi***d me off so much against the Habs) of moving Marchand wouldn`t have been a way to rid some space
Still might happen, #63 is doing nothing offensively, and every time I turned on the tube, he`s taking, yet again, another bad penalty
LouJersey
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Pathetic really this board is.
Nofor Griffith.
Everybody is running to find another onion to chop.
Nobody knows that Minny blew 3-0 lead going into the 3rd and lost 3-5 last night?
How many here expected Minny to roll over and die?
Golly gee, I am even happy for Lucic.
Bad thing about tonight is that we got beat by Sergio Momesso's nephew.
Agree about the board...finding silver linings in blowing a 3-1 lead is so 2006ish. Moral victories, yay!
I'll bet the boys are really enjoying the "Behind the B" cameras in their faces right about now. 
Minny Shinny
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D was pretty bad across the board. I;m not as down on Bart as most are, but his coverage on the first goal was miserable, and that pairing as a whole never recovered, as good as they looked against Toronto. The Wild are a different beast. That's a team that has actual scoring depth, and it'll make inexperienced bottom lines pay.
The difference between Minnesota's depth and Boston's depth on the forward lines was evident last night. The fact that Ryan Carter on the fourth line has as many assist as Bergeron this season is telling all on it's own. I don't know if Marchand and Smith's invisibility are reflecting in Bergeron's ineffectiveness or vice versa...I'm guessing it's a combination of both. Either way, you can't claim scoring depth when nothing is coming from what's supposed to be one of the league's top second lines.
Team overall had no answer for Minnesota's forecheck. None. That was relentless and impressive. I remember when the Bruins used to do that to other teams...
It's no secret I'm a big Minnesota hockey guy so I wanted to see how the Wild would respond after what happened in NY Monday night. Their third period effort was impressive...and I wonder if, after gaining a lead in the first two, the Bruins just took their feet off the pedal and expected the Wild to go away into the night. Not sure, just speculation....but as a whole, everything got loose in the third and the Wild just took over that period.
That team is no joke to play against. The Bruins depth just isn't there right now to stick with them. So much for Minnesota being an "inferior team." I heard that at the Garden last night and kinda chuckled.
That said....the Krejci line was impressive. David is a damn magician. Good on Griff for what was a great game. I don't know if he'll project as a solid 1RW for his career, but he played like it last night at least.
The difference between Minnesota's depth and Boston's depth on the forward lines was evident last night. The fact that Ryan Carter on the fourth line has as many assist as Bergeron this season is telling all on it's own. I don't know if Marchand and Smith's invisibility are reflecting in Bergeron's ineffectiveness or vice versa...I'm guessing it's a combination of both. Either way, you can't claim scoring depth when nothing is coming from what's supposed to be one of the league's top second lines.
Team overall had no answer for Minnesota's forecheck. None. That was relentless and impressive. I remember when the Bruins used to do that to other teams...
It's no secret I'm a big Minnesota hockey guy so I wanted to see how the Wild would respond after what happened in NY Monday night. Their third period effort was impressive...and I wonder if, after gaining a lead in the first two, the Bruins just took their feet off the pedal and expected the Wild to go away into the night. Not sure, just speculation....but as a whole, everything got loose in the third and the Wild just took over that period.
That team is no joke to play against. The Bruins depth just isn't there right now to stick with them. So much for Minnesota being an "inferior team."
I heard that at the Garden last night and kinda chuckled.That said....the Krejci line was impressive. David is a damn magician. Good on Griff for what was a great game. I don't know if he'll project as a solid 1RW for his career, but he played like it last night at least.
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LouJersey
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Great post...glad for those without center ice that they got to see this forechecking machine. Team has some elite scorers as well...and great young talent...sweet team.
Minny Shinny
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Seriously, that was a damn clinic. I felt suffocated watching. The Bruins just had almost no answer for it and couldn't duplicate that intensity on their end. Plus, their ability to roll depth actually neutralized Boston's third line, which has been able to win its matchup's in previous games.
If they can actually start scoring on the PP, watch out west.
as bad as the loss was last nite, and as bad as our defense is going to be without chara, lookin at the schedule, we have a pretty easy stretch up until the mtl game.
we really should roll off 6 wins in a row here.
we really should roll off 6 wins in a row here.
Still pissed at how the team played the 3rd period, that was a pathetic showing.
Still there were some positives to the game, namely:
1. The first line was huge and by far the best line for us. Lucic looked like he was possessed, lots of hits and a rentless forchecking. Krejci with some magic hands and passes and Griffith with the scoring touch.
2. Hamilton was a stud and looked truly like a number 1 defensman.
3. Rask had a great game and made a ton of incredible saves, plus he looked really calm. He has all the right to be über pissed at the defence in front of him.
4. Eriksson looked good too, was really involved and created some nice chances. The best player on his line yesterday.
The rest was horrible. The 2nd and 4th line were invisible and the remaining of the defence, aside from Krug, just atrocious.
Get Bartkowski off this team. When he was benched the Bruins played much better and weren't running around like they did before. He's just a terrible hockey player. Even Trottman was better without 43 on the ice.
Some players like Marchand really need to step up big time or their arses should be dealt.
Still there were some positives to the game, namely:
1. The first line was huge and by far the best line for us. Lucic looked like he was possessed, lots of hits and a rentless forchecking. Krejci with some magic hands and passes and Griffith with the scoring touch.
2. Hamilton was a stud and looked truly like a number 1 defensman.
3. Rask had a great game and made a ton of incredible saves, plus he looked really calm. He has all the right to be über pissed at the defence in front of him.
4. Eriksson looked good too, was really involved and created some nice chances. The best player on his line yesterday.
The rest was horrible. The 2nd and 4th line were invisible and the remaining of the defence, aside from Krug, just atrocious.
Get Bartkowski off this team. When he was benched the Bruins played much better and weren't running around like they did before. He's just a terrible hockey player. Even Trottman was better without 43 on the ice.
Some players like Marchand really need to step up big time or their arses should be dealt.
Fire Sweeney
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Maybe he should take a hard look at himself first. You don't protect 2 goal leads, that's not how hockey is played anymlre.
17-46-53
34-37-32
63-23-18
20-51-21
i wanna see that line up for just 5 games, and see what happens.
34-37-32
63-23-18
20-51-21
i wanna see that line up for just 5 games, and see what happens.
TSBruins13
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The problem is this team has no identity. We still aren't fast, and we aren't intimidating anymore. What are we? Stuck in between.
Seriously need to return to our roots as a hard hitting, bullying team. Not this stupid hybrid.
Oh, and trade Marchand.
Seriously need to return to our roots as a hard hitting, bullying team. Not this stupid hybrid.
Oh, and trade Marchand.
LouJersey
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I have zero emotional attachment to this team right now other than being a Bruins fan...
LSCII
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No way. PC gets an A ****ing + from everyone here, haven't you heard? He's the bestest GM to have ever GM'd any team.
