Why is Tortorella not popular amongst fans?

Sticksandsun

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People hate retreads, even when they're great. Torts has a Cup and continued success but people want new coaches who almost always flame out. Quinn with the Rangers, Woodcroft with the Oilers etc. I heard the same as a Panthers fan when they hired Maurice, so many "why would you hire that dinosaur" posts. Maybe because he's good at his job? Fans act like 100% of GMs are idiots when it's closer to 15%.
 

2014nyr

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soft people think he's a big meanypants because he yells at players and can be hot in postgame pressers that are 5 mins after he leaves the bench. the single shared brain of social media decided he's a bad man despite the mountain of actual evidence to the extreme contrary as a person, and pretty impressive resume in results on the ice overall.
 

Hoek

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Love Torts, but he definitely has a shelf life and some missteps. I think his stint in Vancouver still looms large over HF at least. Seems to be all the people down on him ever talk about.
 

majormajor

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He was popular in Columbus with everyone, players, staff, fans.

Re: the "shelf life" comments, Torts has had three very long coaching tenures in the league already. The average coaching tenure is only three years before they get let go, he's averaging much more than that.
 

Sykur

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Shelf life like Darryl Sutter.

This.

There is a class of coach out there who are just absolute taskmasters. I'm convinced they run their practices with a cat-o-nine tails and compulsory bag skating. They get results, but there are diminishing returns to their drillmaster style of coaching. So they have a fantastic first year (possibly even Jack Adams honors), then a substandard second year, and then after three years the players just start tuning them out and the team collapses, and they are fired. Then some other team picks them up and the process repeats itself.

Torts fits this mold but he's got far worse company. It also applies to older coaches like Herb Brooks, Pat Burns and Jacque Lemaire, and also Tippett, Babcock, Hitchcock, Sutter. You can probably think of more.
 

majormajor

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This.

There is a class of coach out there who are just absolute taskmasters. I'm convinced they run their practices with a cat-o-nine tails and compulsory bag skating. They get results, but there are diminishing returns to their drillmaster style of coaching. So they have a fantastic first year (possibly even Jack Adams honors), then a substandard second year, and then after three years the players just start tuning them out and the team collapses, and they are fired. Then some other team picks them up and the process repeats itself.

Torts fits this mold but he's got far worse company. It also applies to older coaches like Herb Brooks, Pat Burns and Jacque Lemaire, and also Tippett, Babcock, Hitchcock, Sutter. You can probably think of more.

Absolutely not this.

He was still squeezing blood from a stone in Columbus in year 5. Probably his most convincing year of coaching.

Yes in some instances the results diminish, but your average coach is already fired by that point, and Torts is still there winning more games than he should. So why is it that people keep bringing up "shelf life" in regards to Torts?
 

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