Why is Crosby considered a clutch SCF performer?

[Video Nasty]

It's more funny Mcdavid fan boys like yourself are so triggered by anything where it's not more adulation for Mcdavid. You go to great lengths to diminish greats to prop up Connor.

I’ve been pointing out Crosby’s shortcomings long before McDavid hit the scene. It’s not about McDavid or Crosby personally. It’s more about the lies and exaggerations that Crosby fans have peddled since the first time he got beat clean in 2008-2009 and beyond.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I’ve been pointing out Crosby’s shortcomings long before McDavid hit the scene. It’s not about McDavid or Crosby personally. It’s more about the lies and exaggerations that Crosby fans have peddled since the first time he got beat clean in 2008-2009 and beyond.

A few fans don't speak for the entire fan base the same way the whacko Mcdavid fans don't in the oilers fan base.

 

[hirawl]

Because Stanley Cup playoffs and finals are about winning not individual stats.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

this guy reminds me of LeBron James fans

 

[Arthur Morgan]

He was a role player at both Olympics too

there were no role players on both those Olympics teams, they were LOADED with stars what u talkin bout Willis

I guess that's 2 more points then McDavid has scored ever in a Stanley Cups final last game.

Scoring was lower is a big thing.
I'd rather have McDavids line mates last year than 09 and 16 to be honest.

u would rather swap Crosby out for guys that couldnt get the job done last year? are you crazy?

 

[daver]

The OP conveniently does

In 2009 he had 2 assists in the finals and zero points in games 5-7, including the SC winning game.

In 2016 he had 4 assists in the finals and zero points in games 3-5. Two of his four assists in the SC winning game.

In 2017 he finally scored a goal in the finals coupled with 6 assists with zero points in the SC winning game.

Is there a reason why this propaganda floats around that he’s a dependable clutch player in the finals?

Why not include the 2008 SCF? Does it not count because the Pens lost?

I guess that we can erase McDavid's 2024 performance from the history books. Maybe that's why he didn't come out to recieve the trophy because he knew it wouldn't count.

 

[Chet Manley]

The 1c position is too important to discount that players role in winning a cup or 3. He played against the other teams best and came out on top. Same with Toews. Total amount of goals is a shit metric to measure what they accomplished.

 

[daver]

Just to focus on this part. As a Penguins fan, I've argued this as well. I felt Geno and Kessel were robbed of theirs, I still stand by that.

Malkin's 2017 playoff claim to fame is putting up 11 points in the 1st round against a clearly overmatched opponent. Six of those points were secondary assists. The narrative after that series was despite Malkin getting 11 points, he certainly did not stand out as the clear offensive catalyst in that series that his point total would indicate.

After that series, Crosby was the catalyst in getting the Pens up 2 to 0 against the Caps, a series that eventually went 7 games. The Ottawa series was pretty even but it was Crosby who set up the Game 7 OT series winner.

Crosby was the clear best player in the SCF.

Noone was "robbed" on any Smythes. Kessel was as deserving a winner as Crosby was which was reflected in the voting results. There was no underlying media push to give it to Crosby. Any media person who felt that way would not have put Kessel second on their ballot because that would have risked Crosby not getting it.

There really isn't a great case to put Malkin over Crosby in 2017, and this was clear in the voting.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Winning erases everything

 

[Ianturnedbull]

In 2009 he had 2 assists in the finals and zero points in games 5-7, including the SC winning game.

In 2016 he had 4 assists in the finals and zero points in games 3-5. Two of his four assists in the SC winning game.

In 2017 he finally scored a goal in the finals coupled with 6 assists with zero points in the SC winning game.

Is there a reason why this propaganda floats around that he’s a dependable clutch player in the finals?

Because people with good 20/20 vision watched him play.

This is hair-splitting and a steady diet of haterade.

 

[Empoleon8771]

It’s just another false narrative created to explain why he couldn’t dominate individually as expected. It’s a shame, too—he’s a top 6-8 player, yet people still feel the need to overcompensate for him. Guy scored a whopping two goals total across 3 SCF wins and 19 games, yet is viewed as untouchable.

Instead of just shitting on this obviously agenda driven, shitty thread, I'll instead bring up stats for other players that have had 3 cup finals and show how they've done:

Crosby: 4 goals and 20 points in 25 games
Malkin: 8 goals and 18 points in 25 games
Toews: 3 goals and 11 points in 18 games
Kane: 7 goals and 16 points in 18 games
Kucherov: 6 goals and 20 points in 23 games
Bergeron: 7 goals and 13 points in 20 games

So basically, the only player that has a notably higher pace than Crosby is Kane, who's a winger and doesn't carry the same defensive responsibilities that a center has. With that said, I also think Kane has a reputation of being a big game player as well that is totally warranted.

The reason these thoughts are bad is because they never take the time to actually compare how other players do relative to Crosby, and instead just say "Crosby only has a .8 PPG in the finals!" without any context.

Okay so what's your rebuttal to this?

 

[bambamcam4ever]

I’ve been pointing out Crosby’s shortcomings long before McDavid hit the scene. It’s not about McDavid or Crosby personally. It’s more about the lies and exaggerations that Crosby fans have peddled since the first time he got beat clean in 2008-2009 and beyond.

Well you created your account in 2017 so not here at least. Or is this another one of your alternate accounts???

 

[Video Nasty]

Okay so what's your rebuttal to this?

Is he not a greater player than any of them? What do I care that he did the same or worse than lesser players?