NeedleInTheHay
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Celtics have 1 title in 40 years, bruins with 1 cup in 50 years. By far the most overrated sports city.
Why is Boston such a good organization?
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The Hockey Tonk Man
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You can say this, but if anything changes they more than likely wouldn’t have McAvoy, Frederic, Swayman…..anyone drafted 2016 & beyond would be different
Along with Zacha who had a very good season.
Lol, Red Sox and Patriots with 10 titles say hello.
Marchand has been an elite player since like 2017…
They made it to game 7 of the SCF and really only lost that game because Binnington playing out of his kind.
Weird to say they weren’t structured properly
Djp
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Totally agree. If I had tons of money I would live near Boston, probably in Brookline or something.
ClydeLee
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Not a fan but does any of sports city have 4 different teams with a championship in the last 20 years? And some with multiple.
The Bruins are top 10 of that same timeline but the problem I see with them is, sure they have playoff consistency, but they build themselves on the toughness and Defense without enough stars that style mainly just wins a cup 1 time in a decade. They got it 2011, but had a shot again but ran into another team with that kind of roster in the Blues. So they post that rare shot.
BruinLVGA
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Last time the Bruins were swept in a playoffs series, it was in the 90s. Early 90s I think, too. A swing and a miss, try again.
Now do the Patriots and Red Sox.
BostonBob
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Can you tell us who they're going to pick that draft so we can prepare ourselves.
Nothingbutglass
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What? Ive seen 12 championship parades. How about you? Where do you live?
Voight
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Jeremy Jacobs can be a bit of an arse but to his credit he lets the hockey guys do their thing. I get the sense he doesn't middle in their decisions or micro manage.
CascadiaPuck
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Detroit and San Jose had high standards and relative year-to-year success for very extended periods as well (the former more than the latter, obviously - but both had very long stretches of good draft finds and steady playoff appearances). Boston has been holding it high for a while.
But I remember going to see them a few times back a few years before they won their Cup. The team seemed pretty meh (though not awful), the fans were very nice but enthusiasm was meh and there were tons of empty seats (I saw almost no names on the jerseys from players currently on the roster).
Not at all trying to bag on the Bruins. I’m just saying teams can have sustained periods of ups, but it could change. If Chara really was a key driver, get him in there for leadership to keep the tone going.
But I remember going to see them a few times back a few years before they won their Cup. The team seemed pretty meh (though not awful), the fans were very nice but enthusiasm was meh and there were tons of empty seats (I saw almost no names on the jerseys from players currently on the roster).
Not at all trying to bag on the Bruins. I’m just saying teams can have sustained periods of ups, but it could change. If Chara really was a key driver, get him in there for leadership to keep the tone going.
FU Shoresy
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You may wanna check your math. The Celtics have 3 titles in the last 40 years. The B's have been consistently competitive since Bobby Orr arrived on the scene.
Dotter
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Bruins had highs and lows and highs again. But overall, it's absurd to say they're not a good organization. They've been overall pretty good. No NHL team in the world is going to stay on the highs. Bruins have managed better than most others. That puts them in the "such a good organization" category.
People on this forum get salty and try to dunk on everything that makes them feel puckery. It's obvious who the salty puckers are on this forum.
People on this forum get salty and try to dunk on everything that makes them feel puckery. It's obvious who the salty puckers are on this forum.
BostonBob
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wintersej
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1. Culture
The Bergeron/Chara culture of inclusion has made for many tight locker rooms which leads to accountability from your peers, which is more sustainable than relying on the coach. Which leads into…
2. Focusing on two way players that offer a better $ to cap hit value than more one dimensional scorers
They get guys that buy in (and ship them out if they don’t, even if they are very good players like Thornton, Kessel, or Seguin). That buy in leads to teams that are consistently greater than the sum of their parts.
The flip side of 1+2 is that they often don’t have another level to elevate to in the post season. They tend to overachieve in the regular season relative to their talent.
3. Goaltending
Thomas to Rask to Ullmark to Swayman is insane. The structure of the D certainly helps. And so does Bob Essensa, who should have more recognition across the league as a difference making coach.
4. Pulling stars out of their ass later in the draft
This feels like luck. The Bruins run from 2006-2013 mirror those of most top tier contenders. Have a few really good drafts, build up talent, make some runs, and have guys start to age out. Not sure if things would have gone differently against Chicago if Bergeron and Chara didn’t get hurt, but Chara was never a real Norris guy again after he f***ed his knee. Looked like the end there. And then the Seguin trade blew up in their face.
But then they got lucky getting elite talents like McAvoy and Pasta in the mid to late 1st and were able to make another go at it with the Bergeron/Krejci/Chara backbone with an upset loss to STL. Over the years made some picks and deals and were able to transition almost seamlessly from an elite D lead by Chara, Boychuk, Seidenberg to an elite D led by McAvoy, Lindholm and Carlo.
They have just done a brilliant job on keep the defense and goaltending elite. And Lorhei looks like he could be the next step in keeping the D going when Lindholm slows down.
Up front? Well, it looks like they had a nice reclamation project go their way in Zacha. And Poitras looks like a surprise top 6 C with an unknown ceiling, but they are going to have to find another high end talent up front somehow to turn over to this post Bergeron/Krejci forward core.
They will have a lot of money next summer. We will see.
The Bergeron/Chara culture of inclusion has made for many tight locker rooms which leads to accountability from your peers, which is more sustainable than relying on the coach. Which leads into…
2. Focusing on two way players that offer a better $ to cap hit value than more one dimensional scorers
They get guys that buy in (and ship them out if they don’t, even if they are very good players like Thornton, Kessel, or Seguin). That buy in leads to teams that are consistently greater than the sum of their parts.
The flip side of 1+2 is that they often don’t have another level to elevate to in the post season. They tend to overachieve in the regular season relative to their talent.
3. Goaltending
Thomas to Rask to Ullmark to Swayman is insane. The structure of the D certainly helps. And so does Bob Essensa, who should have more recognition across the league as a difference making coach.
4. Pulling stars out of their ass later in the draft
This feels like luck. The Bruins run from 2006-2013 mirror those of most top tier contenders. Have a few really good drafts, build up talent, make some runs, and have guys start to age out. Not sure if things would have gone differently against Chicago if Bergeron and Chara didn’t get hurt, but Chara was never a real Norris guy again after he f***ed his knee. Looked like the end there. And then the Seguin trade blew up in their face.
But then they got lucky getting elite talents like McAvoy and Pasta in the mid to late 1st and were able to make another go at it with the Bergeron/Krejci/Chara backbone with an upset loss to STL. Over the years made some picks and deals and were able to transition almost seamlessly from an elite D lead by Chara, Boychuk, Seidenberg to an elite D led by McAvoy, Lindholm and Carlo.
They have just done a brilliant job on keep the defense and goaltending elite. And Lorhei looks like he could be the next step in keeping the D going when Lindholm slows down.
Up front? Well, it looks like they had a nice reclamation project go their way in Zacha. And Poitras looks like a surprise top 6 C with an unknown ceiling, but they are going to have to find another high end talent up front somehow to turn over to this post Bergeron/Krejci forward core.
They will have a lot of money next summer. We will see.
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Dicky113
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Chara Bergeron and Marchand built a team first culture where standards on effort were high, Everyone was treated equally, no one was bigger than the team. This led them to all take much less $$ to build a winning team and a winning culture. The interesting thing will be whether they can keep it going…
Kimota
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Maybe cause of Neely's iron fist. He's been the only constant so far. And everytime guys in management leave, they suck elsewere.
I'm going to be showing my age here but the aura for me hasn't changed from the 70's era bruin's even up to now, it's a tough brand of hockey.
Nothingbutglass
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eh, blast from the past. Likely no one knows what you are whining about. I get it. Its stupid.
four teams. four teams have been more successful since 2010. out of 30-32
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