Why did Quebec not get a team?

[OG6ix]

Because Quebec is not needed. Sorry not sorry but when they are going to do very little for corporate money and tv rights what's the point? A packed house for 5 years until they suck again and then everyone blames the Canadian Dollar again?

No thanks. Smaller market than Winnipeg and we all saw the issues last year with their ownership group complaining.

 

[cptjeff]

Atlanta and Minnesota given 2nd chance. Quebec should have one too

The MSP metro area has 4.7 times the population of the Quebec metro area. The Atlanta metro area has nearly 8 times the population of the Quebec City metro area.

The bigger the market, the more potential money to be made, both locally and for TV deals. The more corporate wealth is in an area, the more money you make from sponsorships, and that's an area where Minneopolis-St. Paul punches well above its weight vs population. Atlanta, of course, is just a corporate juggernaut.

What's the argument beyond "we like hockey and want a team"? There's zero business case for it. It's simply not a major league market.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Hamiltonians(and others outside of Toronto) would LOVE to have a team besides the Leafs to cheer for. I mean, we are talking about an automatic sell out, and a line up of advertisers to buy media time and boxes, which is more than you can say about many of the other locations being talked about. It's an easy sell, as opposed to Houston, Atlanta(two time losers), KC, and the like. Yes Houston has a large population, but only a fraction of them know or care about hockey. In Ontario, OTOH, it's #1.

It's such a no brainer. I get that you want to "grow the game", but for how much longer can you ignore a huge market that's already there, and would be an instant money maker?

Hamilton is absolutely the best spot to put a new team in Canada bar none. Its not close.

People want one in Quebec for nostalgic reasons but there are a multitude of reasons that it doesn't make sense to take a team. Super small city, low corporate support. Quebec taxes. And a city that barely speaks English. Loads of players won't want to go there especially if they have families.

The GTA can absolutely support another team. The only reason that makes any sense as to why it hasn't happened yet is the Maple Leafs blocking it.

The question is if those Hamiltonians and others outside of Toronto already give money to the NHL or not. If they do, the NHL doesn't gain anything by adding a second team and just diverting money from the Leafs or whichever teams those fans spend money on today. The other question is if Rogers is willing to pay significantly more on the next television rights deal just because Toronto got a 2nd team.

Filling another 15-20k seat building 42 times a night is absolutely additional revenue for the NHL.

And most of those new fans are going to want new swag with the new colours and logo. That's all money being spent that wasn't being spent before.

 

[Scintillating10]

The MSP metro area has 4.7 times the population of the Quebec metro area. The Atlanta metro area has nearly 8 times the population of the Quebec City metro area.

The bigger the market, the more potential money to be made, both locally and for TV deals. The more corporate wealth is in an area, the more money you make from sponsorships, and that's an area where Minneopolis-St. Paul punches well above its weight vs population. Atlanta, of course, is just a corporate juggernaut.

What's the argument beyond "we like hockey and want a team"? There's zero business case for it. It's simply not a major league market.

Passion for game. QC has same passion as Montreal. Montreal has largest local tv and radio money by country mile. There's not even a distance second.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

I was considering creating a new thread, but decided to bump the last thread we had on Quebec.

Last time around I was pretty much on the side that they would never get another team. But in reading that Atlanta is being considered YET again.. I am no longer against Quebec getting another team.

With Atlanta I see a lot of spit balling that it was all the owners. Here is the thing. When they moved the last team to Canada.. there was not a lot out pouring of grief when the team left. I work in aviation and spent a lot of time down there over the years.

It seems to me the biggest reason why people want another team is they talk about population and stuff like that. Curious to know how many of those people actually spend time in the city? Atlanta fans of any sport are picky. Like many cities, if a team is winning the will come out but if a team sucks? Not so much.

I personally think it is time to consider Quebec for another team if Atlanta is under consideration

Atlanta fans are picky? Top-5 in MLB attendance, sets records for attendance with the MLS team, sold out season tickets for Falcons, near 100% for the shitty Hawks, UGA only 45 minutes away, US Soccer HQ here, and college football HOF here. Yeah… crazy picky

 

[DJJones]

Passion for game. QC has same passion as Montreal. Montreal has largest local tv and radio money by country mile. There's not even a distance second.

Montreal is like 4 or 5 times larger, has way more money and has solid corporate sponsors.

Quebec would be behind Winnipeg in all likelihood. And they wouldn't look at Winnipeg for expansion either now.