Why did Detroit pass on Q. Hughes?

[eojsmada]

2018 draft was literally the start of Detroit's rebuild lol.

The rebuild, honestly, started in 2012 after Lidstrom retired. Holland/ownership just didn't want to admit it for 6 years before eventually Mr Illitch passed and Holland was shown the door. If Holland just had the guts to retire when he said he was going to (when Lidstrom did), Detroit probably would not have had as big a job to rebuild the team as other teams do.

 

[raymond23]

Also we do have the Swedish Quinn Hughes now so at least we have that

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

The rebuild, honestly, started in 2012 after Lidstrom retired. Holland/ownership just didn't want to admit it for 6 years before eventually Mr Illitch passed and Holland was shown the door. If Holland just had the guts to retire when he said he was going to (when Lidstrom did), Detroit probably would not have had as big a job to rebuild the team as other teams do.

2012 would be the window closing. You can't really call 2012 to early 2018 a rebuild when the team is still trying buy at TDLs and signing FAs to try to go on runs.

The signal that Holland had finally diverted toward rebuilding was the Tatar trade.

 

[Ezekial]

The rebuild, honestly, started in 2012 after Lidstrom retired. Holland/ownership just didn't want to admit it for 6 years before eventually Mr Illitch passed and Holland was shown the door. If Holland just had the guts to retire when he said he was going to (when Lidstrom did), Detroit probably would not have had as big a job to rebuild the team as other teams do.

No it didn't

 

[Tob]

Because big dum dum

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

No it didn't

Just nobody told Ken Holland or the Ilitch family for 6 years, apparently...

 

[nturn06]

Yeah, but ……he seemed like a no brainer there.

In the final NHL central scouting ranking, QH as ranked 6th among NA skaters. Zadina was 3rd, Bouchard was 4th and Dobson was 5th.

The top pick in the draft was from Europe, and so was the #3 pick, so based on ranking, QH was actually picked higher than predicted.

Why do you think that QH was the no-brainer pick?

 

[jackjohnson]

Just curious. I’m a Kings fan and thought it odd at the time. Never really put a lot of effort in diving into that decision but have come around to it again. Thought he was highly touted after his World Championship outing. Why did Detroit pass on the local kid?

Because Ken Holland was the GM??

Why did the Canucks pass on Tkachuk?

Because Benning ran out of time

 

[jackjohnson]

I shudder when I hear Quinn Hughes’ name.

Every Oilers fan can answer this question as well as every Wings fan.

You probably have nightmares of Ken Holland drafting Zadina

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Just nobody told Ken Holland or the Ilitch family for 6 years, apparently...

With the moves Holland made during that time, honestly it really was as if no one told him.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

With the moves Holland made during that time, honestly it really was as if no one told him.

Because Detroit wasn't rebuilding lol.

We can talk all day about their window being closed, but they quite clearly were not trying to rebuild until 2018.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Because Detroit wasn't rebuilding lol.

We can talk all day about their window being closed, but they quite clearly were not trying to rebuild until 2018.

Sorry. I'm a Wings fan agreeing with you. That was technically "rebuilding on the fly" as Holland called it. But that's definitely not what it was.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Sorry. I'm a Wings fan agreeing with you. That was technically "rebuilding on the fly" as Holland called it. But that's definitely not what it was.

Yep. I think Holland's idea of rebuilding on the fly was replacing Datsyuk with an absurd Frans Nielsen contract until he was 38 lol.

 

[logan5]

Why didn't we all pour our life savings into Bitcoin in the 2010s? Probably the same answer.

Some of the comments and threads on here are really eye opening.

It's a big gamble making that type of investment. You can't go wrong with an S&P 500 ETF. With 10% annual returns, your investment builds up fast.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Best player of the 2018 draft class so it’s okay. 5 others passed on him

 

[tucker3434]

Small OFD’s fail all the time. When they work out, obviously, it’s great. But if they don’t, they’re usually completely useless at the NHL level. You’ve gotta be pretty confident taking one of those guys high in the draft. Kinda like goalies, it’s easier to take that risk in the later part of the first or second period.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Just curious. I’m a Kings fan and thought it odd at the time. Never really put a lot of effort in diving into that decision but have come around to it again. Thought he was highly touted after his World Championship outing. Why did Detroit pass on the local kid?

Zadina at the time was considered tee much better prospect. I don’t think there was a single scouting service who had him above Zadina.

The wings need an electrifying goal scorer just as much as they needed a D, and Zadina at the time was seen as the more sure bet than Hughes at the time.

Also, Ken Holland was their GM.

 

[boredmale]

Zadina at the time was considered tee much better prospect. I don’t think there was a single scouting service who had him above Zadina.

2018 NHL Draft Rankings

2018 NHL draft rankings. A compilation of the top NHL draft prospects rankings for the 2018 draft from a variety of NHL scouting service and media outlets.

www.mynhldraft.com

There is 19 lists, only 1 had Hughes rated Higher

 

[BrendanGaunce4Selke]

In the final NHL central scouting ranking, QH as ranked 6th among NA skaters. Zadina was 3rd, Bouchard was 4th and Dobson was 5th.

The top pick in the draft was from Europe, and so was the #3 pick, so based on ranking, QH was actually picked higher than predicted.

Why do you think that QH was the no-brainer pick?

true Jim Benning is a genius

 

[nturn06]

true Jim Benning is a genius

Often when I look at drafts, and the distribution of "awesome/terrible" picks, I see something which resembles a random distrubution.

IMO, most steals in the draft are related more to the GM getting lucky than being a genious.

Besides, one pick does not make it spring.

 

[FourHourParekhtion]

Pretty sure Zadina was considered to be a a bit of a faller(ranked top 5 everywhere, top 3 by on a lot of lists iirc) and the consensus thought was that Detroit made a good pick.

“Filip Zadina” sounds like a bust’s name.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Still too early to say if it was a bad decision or not.

 

[jackjohnson]

Didn't Jim Benning with another dude call it a "homerun" as soon as they drafted him? There was a draft day video of it. I feel like you don't call it a "homerun" unless you are fully confident about your pick. They most likely had Hughes in their top 5 but I could be wrong.

Yep, it was because of Judd Brackett that we got Quinn Hughes. I don't know what that guy is saying regarding Weisbrod, Weisbrod was a dumbo lol

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Also we do have the Swedish Quinn Hughes now so at least we have that

Who’s that?

 

[BrendanGaunce4Selke]

Zadina at the time was considered tee much better prospect. I don’t think there was a single scouting service who had him above Zadina.

The wings need an electrifying goal scorer just as much as they needed a D, and Zadina at the time was seen as the more sure bet than Hughes at the time.

Also, Ken Holland was their GM.