Why are the Canucks bad?

[hamzarocks]

Because they are a Canadian team and Canada is cursed to never win again in the NHL

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Once they get rid of Miller, they will be much better. Also Garland sucks, overrated player and Boeser is one dimensional. If he's not scoring, he's not doing much else.

 

[severian]

Really bad defensive teams that get bad goaltending tend to be really bad. I don't care how good you are offensively, because it's just impossible to consistently outscore teams when you're giving up 4 a night. This isn't rocket science.

 

[Tyrus]

The Canucks big guns are comically overrated and the rest of their lineup sucks.

Their offense is nowhere near as good as you think and their defense outside of Hughes is one of the worst in the NHL. This isn’t hard.

The Canucks forward group is far from overrated, they're 8th in GF despite having one if not the worse transition blue line helping them out.

It's easily a top 3-5 forward group in the league in terms of offensive capabilities (and their top guns are responsible for most of that).

 

[FlameChampion]

I am a bit surprised they are not worse to be honest, considering all the drama thats been going on.

Demko not staring well and getting injured was a pretty big blow to the team. Have to give Martin some credit though, hes done his job and then some.

They have a really poor defense.

There seems to divide in the locker room.

I think ownership and GM (Rutherford) has been a disaster. Either ownership is meddling and not allowing Rutherford (I know hes not the GM but I am pretty sure he makes all the decisions) or Rutherford isnt making good decisions. I think re-signing Miller was a mistake. Allvin just seems like a puppet which isnt good either. I dont know whos (more) to blame there. I feel like the Miller re-signing was more ownership but who knows.

 

[Satoru Gojo]

Isn't their team save percentage like 890? Can't win with that

 

[BHD]

Lol @ Tocchet. The Canucks are supposed to have this smart front office. Yet they're thinking about him.

 

[bossram]

The Canucks forward group is far from overrated, they're 8th in GF despite having one if not the worse transition blue line helping them out.

It's easily a top 3-5 forward group in the league in terms of offensive capabilities (and their top guns are responsible for most of that).

Offensively, their forward group is contender calibre. The problem is, outside of Petey, none of them are good two-way players and just give the goals/chances right back. Couple with a horrific blueline and yeah, the Canucks are one of the worst defensive teams in the league. You're not gonna win like that.

When they had Demko doing superhuman goaltending, it papered over some of the problems. They're not getting that now and the terrible roster construction is plainly exposed.

 

[Breakers]

Having a 3000000 year old president of hockey ops and the worst owner

Hughes and Pettersson are game changers, and Pettersson is better than what he is showing, th it’s how good he is.

The rest is meh

 

[I am toxic]

They look stacked with talent. Pettersson, Horvat, Miller, Kuzmenko, Hoglander, Garland, Boeser should make one of the deepest offences in the league. They have their elite #1 D in Hughes. Demko is one of the best goaltenders in the league.

Why do they suck every year?

It's Gillis' fault.

 

[RabidOne]

No more new coach bounce and their goaltending that bailed them out last year is a tire fire this year.
They keep paying high for players when they have massive holes to fill. Shoulda traded Miller instead of signing him. Their drafting has been bad with the odd decent pick thrown in that seems to keep the scouting staff employed. Their player development isn't great.

 

[mriswith]

Defense other than Hughes is this:

xx-Bear
OEL-Myers
Stillman-Schenn

Every single defender on this list should be bumped down at least one pairing and that's with zero injuries, and it costs 27M to field this defense.

There are other problems but nothing else comes close to this problem.

 

[Koivu11]

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Yeah idk about Tocchet, i don't claim to know shit about him but on TNT his commentary and analysis is pretty poor.

Sometimes not knowing players or how to say their names, and his analysis of plays is never enlightening.

I'm sure he's a good locker room guy and motivator though.

 

[2014nyr]

theyre constantly gliding....guys go shifts without taking more then 3 strides

 

[Regal]

The Canucks forward group is far from overrated, they're 8th in GF despite having one if not the worse transition blue line helping them out.

It's easily a top 3-5 forward group in the league in terms of offensive capabilities (and their top guns are responsible for most of that).

I think the forwards are good offensively, but even there I don’t think they’re as good as the overall goals for numbers show. They can score a lot in bunches, but some of that seems to be from either playing loose in track meet games or due to score effects from how many goals they give up. But they don’t apply seem to apply the consistent offensive zone pressure that you see from the best teams, and they can struggle to score 5v5. They might be top 10, but I don’t think I’d go top 5

 

[K1984]

Having Rutherford talk to the media less might be an idea too lol.

He just lobs quotes for the vultures to pick on left right and centre.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

They look stacked with talent. Pettersson, Horvat, Miller, Kuzmenko, Hoglander, Garland, Boeser should make one of the deepest offences in the league. They have their elite #1 D in Hughes. Demko is one of the best goaltenders in the league.

Why do they suck every year?

I wouldn’t call Hughes an elite #1 d, and their 5 other d men are straight dog trash. Who cares what your top 6 looks like if you only have one good dman

 

[Mr Kot]

Should quit but he wont.

 

[bossram]

Should quit but he wont.

"I probably should've retired, been doing a bad job, but trust me I know how to fix this".

Yeah, I think my criticisms of this management regime have been justified.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The Canucks forward group is far from overrated, they're 8th in GF despite having one if not the worse transition blue line helping them out.

It's easily a top 3-5 forward group in the league in terms of offensive capabilities (and their top guns are responsible for most of that).

Too bad there's more to hockey than just scoring goals.

The forward group is comically overrated because they do nothing but produce. Look at Boeser, Kuzmenko and Miller, those guys offer literally nothing beyond their production and arguably hurt the team with their play outside of production.

Their big guns can score, but they're butter soft and can't play defense. They're filled with a bunch of Phil Kessels when you can't win if your lineup only has a bunch of Phil Kessels. There is no variety in their forward group, it's just filled with a bunch of undersized offensive forwards.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Anybody talking about the Canuck forwards as to why we suck is comically clueless.

Have you seen our defence? Yes? The ghost of OEL, Chaos Giraffe, a bunch of guys nobody else wanted. The exact wrong group for Hughes to be paired with, outside of the miracle that is Luke Schenn. This group is so bad that otherwise reasonable people say things like that about Luke Schenn.
How about the goaltending? Demko starts the year playing like a AHL goalie, then gets hurt. Do you even know who Spencer Martin is? How about Colin Delia? Be honest, nobody here even knew who they were before this year (if you even do now). There's a reason for that.

Our defence and goaltending is really really close to being an AHL team. That's not hyperbole. It's reality and some of us are still watching most games. Meanwhile people in far off places are talking about our forward group for some reason.

 

[Il Stugotz]

 

[AvroArrow]

Poor management, not trading Miller last year is looking worse by the day.

 

[Channelcat]

.885 goaltending puts you exactly where they are.