BB79
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Im under the impression that making 50k-100,000 people stay an hour longer doing literally nothing so Old Spice can shove 17 ads per quarter down our throat negatively impacts the in-person gameday experience, disagreeing with your initial statement.
You've moved the goalposts from "in person experience" to "the stadium/arena being any less rowdy than it was a decade ago/traditions being pushed aside."
Not only that, hundreds of traditions have been pushed aside. Only 5 of the top 10 most played yearly FBS series are still currently played yearly. The Big 10 had a 90 year old rule of not playing November/December home games at night, that was tossed aside due to TV money/corporatizing.
Playing on Thursday, then f***ing up High school football and playing on Friday, making smaller conference teams play on Tuesday and Wednesday
No more Kansas-Missouri
Oklahoma-Nebraska
Penn State-Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh-West Virginia
No more Southwest Conference, Big 8, Big East, 7-9 team ACC.
Traditions arent being pushed aside?
You are completely delusional
The pitch clock made a huge improvement.Oh yeah but then explain baseball.
One of the most boring games of all.ll
Yup! I'd go to a karaoke bar if I wanted to spend a night singing.Chants are lame.
And even that lame-ass chant was taken from college basketball (Utah State specifically). There's basically no originality to chants at pro sports in North America, and that carries over to our international supporters. About the most clever thing I've ever seen at a (pro) game in the US was Canes fans mocking the Ole chant by changing it to Irbe back in 02 during game 5.I first heard the "I believe that we will win!" at the World Cup in... 2014 (I think) from American fans and I nearly cringed myself inside out. It's great that they try and everything but just... no.
As much as I've enjoyed some of the nonsense in this thread, one thing I don't think I've seen mentioned is that European sports also have a greater tradition of supporters travelling to away matches to support their team. Obviously this is much more practical in a European sense where countries are much smaller and that can actually be done by large(ish) groups of people.
TBH it's less the commercial breaks and more the squeezing out the bands playing time so that they can cram more advertisements onto whatever godzillatron that can kill an atmosphere during a game. Because who the hell wants to get the crowd more amped up or at worst keep them engaged when they can get paid to advertise for $2 off wiper fluid at Autozone or whatever?Fans in the stadium sitting through an extra hour for television advertisements doesnt impact in-person gameday experience?
Spoken like someone that hasnt attended a college game in the last decade
I have seen way too many NA based hockey fan pages whose identity is built on shitting on other sports - mostly association football and basketballThe lack of anything happening gives soccer fans plenty of free time to come up with intricate chants.
Follow up question: Why do fans of any sport think shitting all over other sports will endear those fans to their game?
Football is not the Wild West. The vast majority of games pass without incident. It’s a lot more tribal than rugby or hockey, but that’s a lot to do with it being a working class game and clubs being a historical symbol for people to rally around.Chants are lame, and people going crazy over a non contact sport and causing riots and collapses and other disasters. I would never consider attending another game if that was the atmosphere.
I'm a pretty big Rugby fan(which is a nothing sport in Canada). So I follow French rugby and British rugby fairly closely(since I'm roughly half French and half English). Rugby games are generally speaking much calmer and more enjoyable then Football(soccer) in Europe.
There's a saying in the UK. “football is a gentleman's game played by hooligans, and Rugby is a hooligans' game played by gentlemen”. That definitely extends into fandom as well.
In that case it's gatekeeping.I have seen way too many NA based hockey fan pages whose identity is built on shitting on other sports - mostly association football and basketball
As a European fan of a Southern franchise, it’s oh so fu^kin’ prevalent in so mamy forms.In that case it's gatekeeping.
Meanwhile in the US Soccer is desperate to catch on.As a European fan of a Southern franchise, it’s oh so fu^kin’ prevalent in so mamy forms.
Rugby (Union) is also quite a snobby and elitist sport, with a good number of fans looking down on football and the working class. I like the sport and played it myself growing up, but there’s a nasty element to it.
This pretty much nails it.Soccer fans can sing an entire song and not witness a single scoring chance. European hockey fans have some of these chants but they are often interrupted by the crowd reacting to big hits and scoring chances. Hockey just has more action. No need to sing songs to pass the time while someone is rolling around pretending to be hurt.
Football is not the Wild West. The vast majority of games pass without incident. It’s a lot more tribal than rugby or hockey, but that’s a lot to do with it being a working class game and clubs being a historical symbol for people to rally around.
Rugby (Union) is also quite a snobby and elitist sport, with a good number of fans looking down on football and the working class. I like the sport and played it myself growing up, but there’s a nasty element to it.
I also find the “it’s so boring that they need something to do” posts funny, simply for the fact that a good portion of hockey these days, certainly in the regular season, is mindless dump and chase.
"Marner, Marner, you little kitty, what is your playoff EVG per 60?" doesn't really ring the same bell."Adebayor, Adebayor. Your dad washes elephants and your mom is a w. Hore"
Because today’s NHL is priced only for the rich and stuffy. Or bandwagoner businesspeople looking to hobknob with clients.
The average attendee would rather sit and be on their phone than getting rowdy during the game.
Hell, if a few people actually did manage to get a rowdy/creative chant going…how long would it last before fans around them got offended??
Probably not long.