Who would you want to replace Seguin on Team Canada

[pigpen65]

Should have been Taylor Hall. He is one of the best even strength forwards in the world, certainly one of the best LWs, and we have like 19 centers on the team already. Hall also adds a lot more speed and could play the #1 line. O' Reilly is what, 13th forward? Hall's career numbers in short tournaments and playoffs are outstanding and he produces more consistently than a lot of players already at the tournament.

Something fishy IMO.

Oreilly is a much better player. Nothing fishy at all.

 

[KevinRedkey]

I don't think you could have gone wrong with O'Reilly, Stone, Hall, or Simmonds.

 

[KPower]

O'Reilly is the smart but boring pick

When I heard Simmonds name get mentioned I got intrigued. Just because the Americans are playing like ass hats

I like Simmonds but Raffi Torres would have intrigued me more.

 

[86Habs]

I like Simmonds but Raffi Torres would have intrigued me more.

Seeing how Armstrong is the GM I assumed they would have brought in Scottie Upshall or Ryan Reaves to replace Seguin. O'Reilly is a good pick though.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I don't think you could have gone wrong with O'Reilly, Stone, Hall, or Simmonds.

Agree with 3

 

[bert]

Mark Stone was the correct selection in this case. Seguin a right handed shot playing right wing. Stone was the highest scoring Canadian RW in the NHL last season. He was the 18th highest scoring canadian born player with the 14th best ppg last season. Over the last two seasons he has outscored Simmonds and ORielly handidly.

Since being elevated to a top 6 role in December of 2014 he has the 6th best ppg of any Canadian born player.

He led the league in steals by double. His corsi is outstanding, however his most noticable stat is how well players on his line play with him relative to how they perform without him.

Turris has a career high in points 64
Pageau when playing with him was a ppg player.
Smith who had a previous career high of 14 goals played at a 43 goal pace when playing with Stone finishing the season with 25 goals.

Stone along with Scheifele at the World Championships were Canada's best line when evaluating advanced stats. Stone finished tied for second on the team in scoring with 10 points with Matt Duchene. Despite for some strange reason starting as the 4th line right winger.

What else does Mark Stone have to do to make team Canada?

 

[Deevo]

Mark Stone was the correct selection in this case. Seguin a right handed shot playing right wing. Stone was the highest scoring Canadian RW in the NHL last season. He was the 18th highest scoring canadian born player with the 14th best ppg last season. Over the last two seasons he has outscored Simmonds and ORielly handidly.

Since being elevated to a top 6 role in December of 2014 he has the 6th best ppg of any Canadian born player.

He led the league in steals by double. His corsi is outstanding, however his most noticable stat is how well players on his line play with him relative to how they perform without him.

Turris has a career high in points 64
Pageau when playing with him was a ppg player.
Smith who had a previous career high of 14 goals played at a 43 goal pace when playing with Stone finishing the season with 25 goals.

Stone along with Scheifele at the World Championships were Canada's best line when evaluating advanced stats. Stone finished tied for second on the team in scoring with 10 points with Matt Duchene. Despite for some strange reason starting as the 4th line right winger.

What else does Mark Stone have to do to make team Canada?

Be better at hockey than ROR? (He's not)

 

[RinaldoZac]

Simmonds would have been my choice

 

[Nalens Oga]

I like that O'Reilly was rewarded, and for this team he makes sense. O'Reilly played wing with Duchene for most of an NHL season before, so he is comfortable in that role. He adds elite defensive play from a forward, and almost no chance of penalties. In addition to having played with Duchene in Colorado, O'Reilly also successfully combined with Giroux on a dominant line at the 2015 WC. Good pick overall.

In Colorado, I don't remember O'Reilly and Duchene ever having much chemistry whenever they were tried together. Landeskog-O'Reilly-MacKinnon when they were toegether were a pretty dominant line (sometimes Stastny was there) but O'Reilly and Duchene isn't the best.

Seguin in the shifts he had with Duchene was actually very good with Duchene. This is why I would've preferred Hall, Duchene's got good playmaking ability and Hall's a good scorer, those two guys give the team a lot of speed which isn't a bad thing to have considering they might have to go up against NA or USA and that a lot of the other forwards on the team aren't exactly fast or at their peak skating anymore.

Although my real choice would've been to bring in Letang/Subban to keep these guys on their toes and add that extra offense from the back if need be because I've seen far too much complacency from the defence in the two games.

 

[JackSlater]

Mark Stone was the correct selection in this case. Seguin a right handed shot playing right wing. Stone was the highest scoring Canadian RW in the NHL last season. He was the 18th highest scoring canadian born player with the 14th best ppg last season. Over the last two seasons he has outscored Simmonds and ORielly handidly.

Since being elevated to a top 6 role in December of 2014 he has the 6th best ppg of any Canadian born player.

He led the league in steals by double. His corsi is outstanding, however his most noticable stat is how well players on his line play with him relative to how they perform without him.

Turris has a career high in points 64
Pageau when playing with him was a ppg player.
Smith who had a previous career high of 14 goals played at a 43 goal pace when playing with Stone finishing the season with 25 goals.

Stone along with Scheifele at the World Championships were Canada's best line when evaluating advanced stats. Stone finished tied for second on the team in scoring with 10 points with Matt Duchene. Despite for some strange reason starting as the 4th line right winger.

What else does Mark Stone have to do to make team Canada?

It depends on what they want from the player I guess. If they want a RW, then Stone is the best pick. I'm guessing that they didn't want that though. Good to see Stone getting support though, I've thought of him as a top level candidate for Canada for a while.

 

[TeamRenzo]

Be better at hockey than ROR? (He's not)

Stone is awesome, I would take him over RoR. I predict MS will take another step forward this year and cement himself as one of the top wingers in the game.

 

[86Habs]

It depends on what they want from the player I guess. If they want a RW, then Stone is the best pick. I'm guessing that they didn't want that though. Good to see Stone getting support though, I've thought of him as a top level candidate for Canada for a while.

O'Reilly is seeing action at center tonight with Thornton (LW) and Giroux (RW). Duchene is sitting with a minor injury. Of those three, the last I would expect to see at center would be O'Reilly.

 

[Curufinwe]

I don't think you could have gone wrong with O'Reilly, Stone, Hall, or Simmonds.

If they want someone to PK with Carter and Benn out, Simmonds could not help in that department.

 

[Curufinwe]

O'Reilly is seeing action at center tonight with Thornton (LW) and Giroux (RW). Duchene is sitting with a minor injury. Of those three, the last I would expect to see at center would be O'Reilly.

I'm not surprised. ROR and G are elite faceoff guys, and Thornton is pretty good, too.

http://puckbase.com/stats/faceoff-percentage

 

[JackSlater]

O'Reilly is seeing action at center tonight with Thornton (LW) and Giroux (RW). Duchene is sitting with a minor injury. Of those three, the last I would expect to see at center would be O'Reilly.

That is weird unless Duchene has been a centre to this point. People forget that O'Reilly was the other piece of the Giroux Seguin line at the 2015 WC though, so it could work. Not a lot of goal scoring there though. Would definitely think that Thornton would be the centre.

 

[86Habs]

That is weird unless Duchene has been a centre to this point. People forget that O'Reilly was the other piece of the Giroux Seguin line at the 2015 WC though, so it could work. Not a lot of goal scoring there though. Would definitely think that Thornton would be the centre.

No, Duchene has been at LW for the pre-tournament games thus far. Given Giroux is RHed, I'd have thought Thornton @ center and O'Reilly @ LW would be the direction they went in. Who knows though. Thornton has been at RW, Duchene was at RW at yesterday's practice....

 

[seancolorado]

In Colorado, I don't remember O'Reilly and Duchene ever having much chemistry whenever they were tried together. Landeskog-O'Reilly-MacKinnon when they were toegether were a pretty dominant line (sometimes Stastny was there) but O'Reilly and Duchene isn't the best.

Seguin in the shifts he had with Duchene was actually very good with Duchene. This is why I would've preferred Hall, Duchene's got good playmaking ability and Hall's a good scorer, those two guys give the team a lot of speed which isn't a bad thing to have considering they might have to go up against NA or USA and that a lot of the other forwards on the team aren't exactly fast or at their peak skating anymore.

Although my real choice would've been to bring in Letang/Subban to keep these guys on their toes and add that extra offense from the back if need be because I've seen far too much complacency from the defence in the two games.

Perhaps not as full-on linemates but I seem to remember they had great chemistry on the PP on the right side

 

[LeaferGeezer]

Yeah O'Reilly is a good choice, but I think they're are a few more deserving choices.

 

[Menzinger]

It was a dumb move picking ROR when better players ready to go.

 

[CrypTic]

O'Reilly is seeing action at center tonight with Thornton (LW) and Giroux (RW). Duchene is sitting with a minor injury. Of those three, the last I would expect to see at center would be O'Reilly.

My guess is that they want to see how Giroux plays on wing and how Thornton plays on LW. It's good info to have going forward when the games count.

As to OP: I was hoping that they'd choose Stone or Toffoli but ROR is a good choice. All three are good on the PK and good defensively with some scoring potential.

 

[LeaferGeezer]

Mark Stone was the correct selection in this case. Seguin a right handed shot playing right wing. Stone was the highest scoring Canadian RW in the NHL last season. He was the 18th highest scoring canadian born player with the 14th best ppg last season. Over the last two seasons he has outscored Simmonds and ORielly handidly.

Since being elevated to a top 6 role in December of 2014 he has the 6th best ppg of any Canadian born player.

He led the league in steals by double. His corsi is outstanding, however his most noticable stat is how well players on his line play with him relative to how they perform without him.

Turris has a career high in points 64
Pageau when playing with him was a ppg player.
Smith who had a previous career high of 14 goals played at a 43 goal pace when playing with Stone finishing the season with 25 goals.

Stone along with Scheifele at the World Championships were Canada's best line when evaluating advanced stats. Stone finished tied for second on the team in scoring with 10 points with Matt Duchene. Despite for some strange reason starting as the 4th line right winger.

What else does Mark Stone have to do to make team Canada?

While Mark Stone is a great player, I don't think he has the speed to play on this team, I don't think he could keep up.

 

[Avs44]

In Colorado, I don't remember O'Reilly and Duchene ever having much chemistry whenever they were tried together. Landeskog-O'Reilly-MacKinnon when they were toegether were a pretty dominant line (sometimes Stastny was there) but O'Reilly and Duchene isn't the best.

Seguin in the shifts he had with Duchene was actually very good with Duchene. This is why I would've preferred Hall, Duchene's got good playmaking ability and Hall's a good scorer, those two guys give the team a lot of speed which isn't a bad thing to have considering they might have to go up against NA or USA and that a lot of the other forwards on the team aren't exactly fast or at their peak skating anymore.

Although my real choice would've been to bring in Letang/Subban to keep these guys on their toes and add that extra offense from the back if need be because I've seen far too much complacency from the defence in the two games.

I think you're quite wrong on this one to be honest. In the 2013-2014 season Duchene and O'Reilly played the majority of the season together. Roy stated in the off-season that was the combo he was going to try with ROR on the wing and, despite a dubious reaction from many Avs fans, they clicked really well together. That was Duchene's best offensive season (70 points in 71 games), and ROR put up 64 points and 28 goals. They were each other's most common linemates, both statistically and from watching the games, so I really have no idea what you're going on about here. Duchene was technically the centre, though ROR often rotated back into that roll on the ice. O'Reilly only took about a third of the faceoffs that year that Duchene did and a quarter of what Stastny did. He was primarily a winger almost all of the time.


On the flip side, Landeskog / O'Reilly / MacK was actually Landeskog / Stastny / MacK most of the time. If I recall they were put together permanently about mid-season and just clicked. The other line was O'Reilly / Duchene then often McGinn and initially Pap. But I thought Duchene and O'Reilly actually clicked really well together, and that is statistically supported.

 

[TT1]

While Mark Stone is a great player, I don't think he has the speed to play on this team, I don't think he could keep up.

?? he kept up fine at the World Championships, he played with O'Reilly.. they were Canada's best line. Why does that even matter, the game's are being played on NHL rinks.

 

[LeaferGeezer]

?? he kept up fine at the World Championships, he played with O'Reilly.. they were Canada's best line. Why does that even matter, the game's are being played on NHL rinks.

Yes that's true but that wasn't Canada's best. I don't know maybe I have to watch more Mark Stone this year.

 

[JackSlater]

No, Duchene has been at LW for the pre-tournament games thus far. Given Giroux is RHed, I'd have thought Thornton @ center and O'Reilly @ LW would be the direction they went in. Who knows though. Thornton has been at RW, Duchene was at RW at yesterday's practice....

If that's the fourth line, it kind of fits the recent Canadian MO of just having the fourth line be random scraps. Elite scraps, but scraps. Canada's random line at the 2004 World Cup (Draper Thornton Doan) actually ended up being a key element of that team.

While Mark Stone is a great player, I don't think he has the speed to play on this team, I don't think he could keep up.

He kept up better than Perry at the WC this past spring. Stone is smart enough to get to where he needs to be.