Who would you want at 3rd overall?

[Star Platinum]

Few folks here almost convinced me with their pitch on picking Hagens — and I certainly won’t be mad to have another center prospect. But it just really feels like we’d be picking another Will Smith and I’m not sure that’s the right team building formula.

I definitely think it’s Schaefer - Misa - Martone for me. Hard to pass up on his size and skill set.

Agreed. We have no net presence on the power play and very little size on the team. Martone doesn't use his size 100% like we would want a power forward to, but if he did, he wouldn't be available at #3 either. If Hagens had been dominant this year, that might change my calculus but he wasn't and Martone improved by the end of the year. I'm inclined to just take the guy that fits our needs and call it a day if we pick third.

 

[Jargon]

Agreed. We have no net presence on the power play and very little size on the team. Martone doesn't use his size 100% like we would want a power forward to, but if he did, he wouldn't be available at #3 either. If Hagens had been dominant this year, that might change my calculus but he didn't and Martone improved by the end of the year. I'm inclined to just take the guy that fits our needs and call it a day if we pick third.

What’s nice is that either of the 3 picks will ultimately be our best prospect after Dickinson (not counting guys in the NHL or Askarov) — and in the case of Schaefer, better than Dickinson. It’s not a terrible place to be…

…but boy I want Schaefer.

I will say I had a feeling we’d get Celebrini last year, it just felt RIGHT. This year, I think we’re going to end up with the 2nd pick so that we have to debate a million unknowns til the draft and slowly go insane. this is my theory.

 

[one2gamble]

With the way martone kind of leveled off, and hagens historical production. I still can't make a call......

 

[Friday]

What’s nice is that either of the 3 picks will ultimately be our best prospect after Dickinson (not counting guys in the NHL or Askarov) — and in the case of Schaefer, better than Dickinson. It’s not a terrible place to be…

…but boy I want Schaefer.

I will say I had a feeling we’d get Celebrini last year, it just felt RIGHT. This year, I think we’re going to end up with the 2nd pick so that we have to debate a million unknowns til the draft and slowly go insane. this is my theory.

I feel the same way haha destined for 2nd OV

 

[Jargon]

I feel the same way haha destined for 2nd OV

It’s just the most irritating option for this board. We’ll have weeks of “actually Martone, actually Misa, actually what if *winner of lottery* doesn’t pick Schaefer?!? actually we should trade all of our picks for #1…”

It’ll be the worst.

 

[Friday]

It’s just the most irritating option for this board. We’ll have weeks of “actually Martone, actually Misa, actually what if *winner of lottery* doesn’t pick Schaefer?!? actually we should trade all of our picks for #1…”

It’ll be the worst.

I still feel like Schaefer is 50/50 for 1st OV. I think it's entirely possible to get him 2nd OV. Either way Misa or Schaefer im happy. 3rd OV will be more difficult to hit the right guy

 

[weastern bias]

2nd overall is kind of the most Zen place to pick

There's 2 clear best prospects and all of the sudden the choice is made for you, just take the consolation prize

Even though most posters agree on Schaefer at #1, there would still be over a month inbetween the lotto and the draft for us to stress over what Grier's choice will be

If we fall to 3 I will be inconsolable, howling in agony, nothing and no one will ever make me feel whole again, and the second we make our pick I'll immediately start talking myself into it being the right decision

 

[hockfan1991]

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I'm in the same boat. I'd consider 3rd for Dobson and 10th overall. That is an overpay but the sort of one I'd need to make it available, honestly.

I would take out our 3, and the 10. I would be down for something like Dallas/Edmonton First, Musty, Our 2025 second and whatever else small plus for Dobson straight up. The 3,10 and Dobson is intriguing.

 

[hockfan1991]

I'd only do 3rd for Dobson and 10th if Little Eklund was for sure going to be available, which we have no way of knowing.

This was my thought as well. First thing i thought of. Baby EK, Dobson for #3 is a yes for me

 

[coooldude]

This was my thought as well. First thing i thought of. Baby EK, Dobson for #3 is a yes for me

There's a main board thread where the NYI guy who started it doesn't think upgrading from 10 to 3 is worth Dobson for them, not enough. Seems to want a roster player. PF asked the guy what else he would add from sharks side with no response, but it seems like it's a roster player they want.

 

[hockfan1991]

There's a main board thread where the NYI guy who started it doesn't think upgrading from 10 to 3 is worth Dobson for them, not enough. Seems to want a roster player. PF asked the guy what else he would add from sharks side with no response, but it seems like it's a roster player they want.

Maybe Zetterland wouldnt have tilted the scales, But thats where my disappointment lies. He was a 20x20 guy back to back seasons. Could fill in second line role in a pinch. Edmonton first/ our second, zetterland, musty hard to believe it doesnt get done.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

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I would take out our 3, and the 10. I would be down for something like Dallas/Edmonton First, Musty, Our 2025 second and whatever else small plus for Dobson straight up. The 3,10 and Dobson is intriguing.

I’d definitely prefer using the secondary 1st round assets we have for Dobson given the contract leverage at play there but if they’re going to need the higher picks involved, I’m much less inclined to agree to such a deal. I’d want a lot more.

 

[Lebanezer]

If we end up picking Martone over Misa at 2nd, I would be very upset.

That's like the Ducks taking Sennecke last year over Demidov.

 

[Lebanezer]

A proposal from an Islanders fan was 3, 33, and Musty for Dobson and 10. Probably at least good for conversation. Don't think I'd take it but I'm sure some would.

That's silly. 3rd will most likely get the Islanders a player better than Dobson, and they get 33 and Musty. Dobson just had a very poor year too.

 

[sharski]

All of know is that if the sharks pick 3rd it will be the most entertaining draft thread in a while

Last year was a once in a lifetime draft thread where everything was right in the world

 

[gaucholoco3]

All of know is that if the sharks pick 3rd it will be the most entertaining draft thread in a while

Last year was a once in a lifetime draft thread where everything was right in the world

Everything at 1 went right but many here wanted Buium, me included. I quickly realized the size, skating, and two-way projection of Dickinson and was happy. But to say that everything went right on this board is not entirely true.

 

[Hodge]

That's like the Ducks taking Sennecke last year over Demidov.

They were right to do it and we will be justified in picking Martone over Misa too.

 

[Lebanezer]

They were right to do it and we will be justified in picking Martone over Misa too.

What makes you say that? Sennecke was outscored by Dickinson in fewer games. Chernyshov massively outpaced Sennecke. Musty’s D+1 was way better than Sennecke’s. Demidov was always viewed as having more skill and isn’t much smaller than Sennecke.

 

[Hodge]

What makes you say that? Sennecke was outscored by Dickinson in fewer games. Chernyshov massively outpaced Sennecke. Musty’s D+1 was way better than Sennecke’s. Demidov was always viewed as having more skill and isn’t much smaller than Sennecke.

Sennecke is 6'4 and Demibust is listed as 6'0 (but clearly smaller than that) while also being a vastly inferior skater. The tools and physical package with Sennecke are just much rarer and the goal with a 3rd overall pick is ultimately to acquire a player type who's impossible to sign or trade for once they're established. Also it's not like Sennecke's scoring numbers are bad.

 

[Lebanezer]

Sennecke is 6'4 and Demibust is listed as 6'0 (but clearly smaller than that) while also being a vastly inferior skater. The tools and physical package with Sennecke are just much rarer and the goal with a 3rd overall pick is ultimately to acquire a player type who's impossible to sign or trade for once they're established. Also it's not like Sennecke's scoring numbers are bad.

Demidov is listed at 6’1” and they’re the same weight. Sennecke should fill out and be heavier, but he doesn’t play a heavy game. Sennecke’s numbers are fine, but for as high as he went you’d expect more, at least pushing 2 points a game, like Musty did last year or Chernyshov this year. I can see much more of an argument for Martone vs. Misa than Sennecke vs. Demidov.

 

[Hodge]

Demidov is listed at 6’1” and they’re the same weight. Sennecke should fill out and be heavier, but he doesn’t play a heavy game. Sennecke’s numbers are fine, but for as high as he went you’d expect more, at least pushing 2 points a game, like Musty did last year or Chernyshov this year. I can see much more of an argument for Martone vs. Misa than Sennecke vs. Demidov.

Sennecke's elite skating ability and puck skills are extremely rare for a guy that size. Maybe he never puts it all together in the NHL but I'd rather bet on that (especially when you already have Zegras) than a small one-way winger who can't skate.

 

[Lebanezer]

Sennecke's elite skating ability and puck skills are extremely rare for a guy that size. Maybe he never puts it all together in the NHL but I'd rather bet on that (especially when you already have Zegras) than a small one-way winger who can't skate.

You're being fairly hyperbolic about Demidov. If Sennecke makes the NHL next year, he's not AHL eligible, then we can see how they both do.

 

[ThePlanet]

I know Desnoyers might be a reach, but I think his game will translate very well to the NHL. Between his motor, truculence (I know, I know. I'm touting truculence), passing, shot, and vision, I see someone who screams winner to me. He's more of a play-driving, true center than Frondell, and while he might be outscored by Martone, the pace and toughness make me feel as though he'll actually end up a power forward in the mold of a Tkachuk or Perry. As far as Hagena goes, I fully admit that the potential for redundancy could be clouding my judgement, but I think what Desnoyers brings to the table makes him too good of a fit to ignore. With all that said, we could probably trade down a spot or two for a little additional value.

 

[Hodge]

You're being fairly hyperbolic about Demidov. If Sennecke makes the NHL next year, he's not AHL eligible, then we can see how they both do.

Demibust may put up better scoring numbers next season but once Sennecke fills out there's a good chance he'll be the more impactful player. Even if he isn't I doubt the Ducks will ever regret passing on Demibust. They already have one in Zegras and are seemingly desperate to get rid of him. Soft skill doesn't win in the playoffs.

 

[SJS1991]

Sennecke is 6'4 and Demibust is listed as 6'0 (but clearly smaller than that) while also being a vastly inferior skater. The tools and physical package with Sennecke are just much rarer and the goal with a 3rd overall pick is ultimately to acquire a player type who's impossible to sign or trade for once they're established. Also it's not like Sennecke's scoring numbers are bad.

Are you a big Roger McQueen fan? There is an argument to be made that if the injuries check out… he is the single most talented player in this draft.

Given all the physical tools he possesses.