Who would you like as the next GM?

[TMLAM34]

Apparently Shanny liked McPhee when the Lou hiring happened. That’s a name I’m not against, in terms of a guy with managerial experience. Helped build the Caps and this Vegas team. He knows how to work with high end talents, and look how his team plays.

Forgot about him. Would be a real good target for sure.

 

[Anthrax442]

Because the young prodigy worked out well

Hunter ia tje reason we have we dead drafts.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Maybe. It's pretty rare to take a big step back like that. Maybe if Shanahan was gone as well. Maybe. Typically for a situation like this, the manager is in a situation where he's likely on very thin ice or already 1 foot out there door. I am pretty sure McPhee will be in Vegas for a long time.

Leafs have a lot of money to change peoples minds though so we'll see.

If we're poaching anyone though... I'd rather go really hard after Doug Armstrong from the Blues. Now that's a GM probably a lot closer to thin with how things have gone in recent years.

Well, there's no harm in asking.

I've said Ron Francis a few times today, same applies.

 

[Leaffan1991]

Pridham, Shanny says he's going to lean on him

 

[SprDaVE]

Well, there's no harm in asking.

I've said Ron Francis a few times today, same applies.

Ron Francis is in year 2 (or 3?) of the Kraken and starting to finally see success.

Managers and execs don't jump ship like that so easily. They can't talk to other teams freely. They would need permission from said team. Money talks and all that but it's not really realistic.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

I'd have to know who the options are to give an answer worth giving.
I am hoping that there is a shift away from pretty hockey to a more balanced approach.

 

[Leafs87]

You don’t f***ing say? This comment after pissing way the cores ELC. We never had “cheap” years but some may even walk by this point

 

[TMLeafer]

Ugh no thanks to Treliving.

 

[Canadian Finn]

You don’t f***ing say? This comment after pissing way the cores ELC. We never had “cheap” years but some may even walk by this point

no shit, giving the keys to kyle the kid wasn't the most effective approach.

(unless you consider one round a success)

 

[Rare Jewel]

Ron Francis is in year 2 (or 3?) of the Kraken and starting to finally see success.

Managers and execs don't jump ship like that so easily. They can't talk to other teams freely. They would need permission from said team. Money talks and all that but it's not really realistic.

Yep, doesn't typically happen, unless you're Brian Burke of course.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

He's extremely smart and has done a great job for Carolina. He's pretty much the person Dubas wishes he could be

He is an actual analytics GM. As in someone who understands them well enough to actually use them properly. Dubas is more of a GM who values and likes analytics, which is not exactly the same thing... Although that is still better than the far too many GM's who don't even go that far.

Most Leafs fans would hate him. If they thought Dubas was bad... Tulsky will probably go even further away from traditional grit and toughness than Dubas ultimately did and he is probably better off for it too.

no shit, giving the keys to kyle the kid wasn't the most effective approach.

(unless you consider one round a success)

I'm confused though... Kyle didn't piss away the ELC years. Lou did. The most experienced GM that you can possibly find.

Kyle was the one who had to clean up the mess.

 

[Azail]

You're missing: won more rounds than Kyle Dubas.

Tkachuk was leaving regardless. He got a massive return anyway. The Huberdeau contract doesn't look great but I'd bet he bounces back with a new coach. It's not like he's some scrub

Go talk to Flames fans about the massive return. I think they wish they got nothing instead.

 

[Fogelhund]

Well it will very likely be another guy from TO .. my buddy says its Spezza .. I have nothing better to go off of so I think it will be Spezza .. he knows each of da guys well on team .. he knows shanny .. and he knows league .. and he understands hockey is more then skill and spreadsheets .. he really only lacks experience as a GM

Well!! Spezza quit, so it’s not going to be him.

 

[Peace Frog]

Pridham has been a wizard with maneuvering through the salary cap. I would hate to lose him. I would be very curious to know what his philosophy is for how to build a playoff successful team. Would it be much different than Dubas’? If so… how would it differ?

 

[notdoneyet]

Jeff gorton is my choice

 

[Gabriel426]

Outside of the organization Pronger or Staios?

Do they have GM experiences?

 

[MarMarSab3]

George Mcphee is an interesting name

 

[Gabriel426]

Forgot about him. Would be a real good target for sure.

With McPhee, I have complete faith in him nomatter how lopsided the trade might look to build a Cup Contending team.

 

[hamzarocks]

He is an actual analytics GM. As in someone who understands them well enough to actually use them properly. Dubas is more of a GM who values and likes analytics, which is not exactly the same thing... Although that is still better than the far too many GM's who don't even go that far.

Most Leafs fans would hate him. If they thought Dubas was bad... Tulsky will probably go even further away from traditional grit and toughness than Dubas ultimately did and he is probably better off for it too.



I'm confused though... Kyle didn't piss away the ELC years. Lou did. The most experienced GM that you can possibly find.

Kyle was the one who had to clean up the mess.

So much ridiculousness in this comment

If Tulsky is getting credit for building the canes you should note the canes are an aggresive and well rounded team. They aren't a simple skill based team.

He would bring that approach and team building to the leafs if we got him and value guys who provide offense + physicality rather than small skilled players

Also what B.S is Lou wasting the teams ELC years?

2016 tank season
2017 mirarcle playoff run where no one expected us in and thought it would be a bottom 10 pick
2018 his last year, you can argue he should have went after McDonaugh at the cost of lilijgren + 1st + kapanen (reported ask for him) but even then the team was young and inexperienced with us not being a legit contender yet.

Very few players win or can compete on their ELC.

The leafs were not good enough to compete and making a Mcdonaugh type trade while nice wasn't the focus. We onky went all into contending once that albatross contract was given to tavares.

Lou's job was to fix the culture, instill hard work and compete into the players, accumulate picks and prospects during most of his three years here.

You can argue he failed that sure with the core being still unable to compete come playoffs. However his role wasn't to go out and add core pieces and try and win from 2016-2018. Saying so is revisionist history and an attempt to excuse the leafs having 1 series win in 5 contention years with Dubas.

You know this though, but clearly are pretending otherwise

 

[Rare Jewel]

With McPhee, I have complete faith in him nomatter how lopsided the trade might look to build a Cup Contending team.

Already?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

He is an actual analytics GM. As in someone who understands them well enough to actually use them properly. Dubas is more of a GM who values and likes analytics, which is not exactly the same thing... Although that is still better than the far too many GM's who don't even go that far.

Most Leafs fans would hate him. If they thought Dubas was bad... Tulsky will probably go even further away from traditional grit and toughness than Dubas ultimately did and he is probably better off for it too.

Fans will love Tulsky if he wins, which I fully believe he could do. People with his impressive skillset are pretty rare so hopefully the Leafs can get him

 

[Lightsol]

Any gm who understands toughness, grit, heart, hitting and fighting are part of the game and something a playoff hockey team needs

Brian Burke, come on down!

 

[sxvnert]

George Mcphee is an interesting name

Only 64...so hes not Lou. The work hes done in Vegas is outstanding.

 

[Gabriel426]

He is an actual analytics GM. As in someone who understands them well enough to actually use them properly. Dubas is more of a GM who values and likes analytics, which is not exactly the same thing... Although that is still better than the far too many GM's who don't even go that far.

Most Leafs fans would hate him. If they thought Dubas was bad... Tulsky will probably go even further away from traditional grit and toughness than Dubas ultimately did and he is probably better off for it too.



I'm confused though... Kyle didn't piss away the ELC years. Lou did. The most experienced GM that you can possibly find.

Kyle was the one who had to clean up the mess.

Honestly, no point playing the what if game and hindsight….
To me, been saying since last summer, Dubas betted on the wrong horses, but almost all GMs would had made the same bet as Dubas if they were given the same opportunities. Dubas should had started making changes after the Hab series and definitely after last season. One example is Kerfoot, you can’t pay 3.5mil for a player to play any lines in the lineup bc you can’t find a proper spot for him.
Would had like him to be back and see what he can do to change up the core but if he doesn’t want to come back, then bye.

One thing I do find interesting is the full autonomy, does that mean he is willing to bring them all back but Shanny and the board said no, or he is willing to trade and change but the Board and Shanny said no, or a little bit of both? Like Dubas would keep Keefe but trade JT and MM but the board and Shanny want a new coach and trade Willie away.

Already?

Well, he had done it before.

 

[cupcrazyman2]

Somebody that doesn't trade 1st round picks away.