Who would you like as the next GM?

[rumman]

Stan Bowman as GM
Joel Quennville as Head Coach

We need some experience and proven success

Certainly checks the experience boxes…….

 

[thewave]

#1 - McPhee
#2 - Armstrong
#3 - Futa
#4 - Tulsky

Good list.

I would put McPhee or Armstrong 1st as well.

 

[WTFMAN99]

His education is in chemistry and physics. He's been in hockey for less than 9 years and an AGM for 2 years, 7 months. He's a less experienced Dubas when Dubi became GM.

What do you think there is a lot of with chemistry / physics? Data.

Again, the guy went to Harvard lol.

 

[rumman]

Got to say this list of options reminds me of the Kellogg’s cereal variety packs we had as kids, so much to choose from, some good, some bad, and some that will never get consumed. My choice was other, I want the best talent evaluator there is, and not just hockey skills, I want the guy who can pick players that are winners, winners that never quit, winners who hate losing, winners who will stand up for their team mates, winners that know the name on the front of the jersey is far more important than the name on the back. Find me that guy and he’s my man.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

This is one ugly list.

There has to be better candidates out there.

 

[Ciao]

The Leafs need a bright, young hockey executive with an education in sports management and at least five years experience as an NHL GM where he's been acknowledged by his supervisor to have done a very good job.

Shouldn't be too hard to find one of those.

 

[SprDaVE]

This is one ugly list.

There has to be better candidates out there.

The Flames short list is god awful. Craig Conroy will be their next guy, there's no way they go with Dave f***ing Nonis.

I hope Shanahan's short list is completely different.

 

[thinkblue]

McPhee is pretty interesting.

Poile also popped into my head but looks like he's 73 already and I'm not sure if he's fully retired.

Maybe Rutherford fits into the same bucket since the Canucks have Allvin in place.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[thewave]

McPhee is a no brainer.

 

[Donnie740]

His drafting was garbage. His FA signings were garbage. But the man knew how to swing a deal. (No, I am not seriously advocating we bring back Burke).

That pretty much describes Dubas - - except his trading was also garbage.

 

[The Masters]

Mcphee is a true leader. If you get him that's a home run.

Opinion: Vegas Golden Knights GM George McPhee gives up job for good of the team

George McPhee steps aside as the Golden Knights GM as they promote Kelly McCrimmon to the position.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Menzinger]

It's probably going to be him.....

And that sucks. Maybe he'll redeem himself

 

[thewave]

Seems Pridham is currently our GM.

 

[htpwn]

That pretty much describes Dubas - - except his trading was also garbage.

Yeah, no.

 

[SprDaVE]

It's probably going to be him.....

And that sucks. Maybe he'll redeem himself

I don't even think Shanahan knows himself who it will be. Yesterday he said he'd start the process after the press conference...

I would say Treliving should definitely be part of the short-list to me. People will look at the Tkachuk trade as the gigantic wart of his tenure, and that's very fair. His lack of success in the post-season is just as bad as Dubas as well. The coaches he has hired were bad too and never lasted long. But when you look at his signings, drafts and even all the trades... there is a lot worse out there. A lot of what makes the Flames good was because of him.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Is OP trolling with these poll choices?

 

[Menzinger]

I don't even think Shanahan knows himself who it will be. Yesterday he said he'd start the process after the press conference...

I would say Treliving should definitely be part of the interviews and discussions. People will look at the Tkachuk trade as the gigantic wart of his tenure. His lack of success in the post-season is just as bad as Dubas as well. But when you look at his signings, drafts and even all the trades... there is a lot worse out there.

Oh I agree nothings probably been decided.

But Treliviing strikes me as the easy choice from Shannys pov. He's a vet, knows how to do the basics of the job and potentially allows him to hit the ground running.

I don't even think he'd be a terrible hire either - but I don't think he'd be a particularly good one

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

The Shanahan regime has been a disaster? I hear stuff like this and I remember how bad things were before him. Systematically took stock of what the Leafs had and made changes. It was a coup when he hired Lou and Hunter and brought Dubas. Had great success in the draft and yet was a disaster. His responsibility is to put people into positions to be successful and I believe he did that. It was on Dubas to construct a team for the ultimate goal. When Babcock made things uncomfortable on players Dubas backed the players. He should have backed the coach. Dubas got rid of anyone that would question him and HIS plan. Shanny gave him all the rope he needed. I think he was beyond supportive of him. Sweet Jesus, from where we were until now and it is a disaster, you have to really think about where that is coming from.

They came in last place under Shanahan. Two of the WORST SEASONS EVER were on his watch. Since then they have won a single round in seven tries. One round. Seven tries. Including a whopping six first round losses in a row.

Those record breaking regular seasons mean squat when they are setting records in postseason futility at the same time.

 

[The Masters]

 

[WTFMAN99]

I don't even think Shanahan knows himself who it will be. Yesterday he said he'd start the process after the press conference...

I would say Treliving should definitely be part of the short-list to me. People will look at the Tkachuk trade as the gigantic wart of his tenure, and that's very fair. His lack of success in the post-season is just as bad as Dubas as well. The coaches he has hired were bad too and never lasted long. But when you look at his signings, drafts and even all the trades... there is a lot worse out there. A lot of what makes the Flames good was because of him.

He was hired in 2014 but I wasn't sure if I should give him a ton of credit on the 2014 draft but 2015-2020 drafts, not bad at all.

2021 seems too early to look at although strong start.

Trades he seems okay to good.

His goal was to remain competitive after Tkachuk wanted out and Gaudreau walked on him. He signed Kadri and traded for Huberdeau (110 pt season) and a top pairing or at worst, top 4 right shot D in Weegar.

He's not a bad GM at all. He seems like he addresses anything that his team needs but I wouldn't say he's my top choice either.

 

[SprDaVE]

Oh I agree nothings probably been decided.

But Treliviing strikes me as the easy choice from Shannys pov. He's a vet, knows how to do the basics of the job and potentially allows him to hit the ground running.

I don't even think he'd be a terrible hire either - but I don't think he'd be a particularly good one

If I'm a betting man, he's probably closer to option C. I will assume Shanahan will try his hardest to get someone like Armstrong first and foremost. I am shocked it's being pushed as a possibility because I always thought he was the best in the league.

 

[Notsince67]

Why does everyone want Tulsky?

Kind of a more bookish Dubas

 

[daveleaf]

I’m surprised he didn’t pull a Spezza, in fact I’m surprised there wasn’t a total mutiny if you believe the rumoured God like status Dubas held over his staff………

So you leave your job that you are getting paid handsomely to do for one of the storied franchises because your buddy isn't coming back? Hockey has always been very optical. It is why Shanahan cleared the air yesterday. He wants other organizations to know how the last week of negotiations went. Pridham leaves the same way and he will be viewed the same way and I believe that is not a good look in the NHL. This is Toronto, this is not Arizona.

 

[KPower]

I don’t want Treliving, he left a f***in mess in Calgary that will take years to clean up.