Speculation: Who would you actually want as the next GM?

Throttle

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Selling is the easy part, building is the hardest, riskiest, and most difficult.

Targets could be: McPhee (still lmao at the one person here that was steadfast he was awful bc of the Forsberg trade…), McCrimmon, Rutherford, Scott White, to name a few.

The owners will want a name brand with connections to the NHL powerbrokers.
 

HyeDray

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Art Staple at the Athletic asked this very question. There is no immediate answer to it other than it should be someone who has some experience in running a team. He cautioned against a rookie GM for this team. Right now the list of names is short.

Ken Holland is 69 years old and a name with some pedigree. He has recent NHL expertise. 3 Stanley Cups. At his age he falls into the I doubt he wants to still be doing this category.

Dean Lombardi is 66 and again might be done. He has a few cups but has not been a GM since the 2016-17 season. Is he still suited to today's game?

Doug Wilson is 67 and a former long time GM but has no championships.

George McPhee is 67 and has been out of the NHL since 2018-19.

Ray Shero was last GM in 2019-2020. He is 62 years old and has a cup.

Chuck Fletcher was last GM in 2022-23. He is 57. No championships.

I have no idea who the up-and-comers in the GM/President of hockey Ops field would be but as mentioned — from my perspective — do we want a rookie GM to untangle this mess?

I do not believe they need a total rebuild. They need someone to go in smartly and carefully to make some tough moves. Trading nelson would be painful but necessary. Same with Palmieri. Trading a 1st round pick to salvage a sinking ship is stupid. My concern is LL will try to trade that pick for help now and another vet for pick/younger asset. We are too old and too slow as it is. Its 4th and 20 and they need to punt on this season. Retool on the fly and prep for next year with some youth and cap space.
 

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No more rookie GM's. Been there, done that with middling results.

Not Roy, he's done nothing to prove he'd be an adequate GM for an NHL team

I don't know any people in particular, but someone that actually has GM experience, young enough to not be set in his/her ways and is current on the modern NHL, and not arrogant where he/she doesn't listen to other members of their staff.

Definitely not an easy position to succeed in or to fill with a qualified individual. I sincerely hope that Malkin has been on the hunt for a qualified person for a while now and is closing in on a person that can give this franchise a new direction, instill confidence in staff and players, and mostly, give the fans hope.
 

Throttle

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Art Staple at the Athletic asked this very question. There is no immediate answer to it other than it should be someone who has some experience in running a team. He cautioned against a rookie GM for this team. Right now the list of names is short.

Ken Holland is 69 years old and a name with some pedigree. He has recent NHL expertise. 3 Stanley Cups. At his age he falls into the I doubt he wants to still be doing this category.

Dean Lombardi is 66 and again might be done. He has a few cups but has not been a GM since the 2016-17 season. Is he still suited to today's game?

Doug Wilson is 67 and a former long time GM but has no championships.

George McPhee is 67 and has been out of the NHL since 2018-19.

Ray Shero was last GM in 2019-2020. He is 62 years old and has a cup.

Chuck Fletcher was last GM in 2022-23. He is 57. No championships.

I have no idea who the up-and-comers in the GM/President of hockey Ops field would be but as mentioned — from my perspective — do we want a rookie GM to untangle this mess?

I do not believe they need a total rebuild. They need someone to go in smartly and carefully to make some tough moves. Trading nelson would be painful but necessary. Same with Palmieri. Trading a 1st round pick to salvage a sinking ship is stupid. My concern is LL will try to trade that pick for help now and another vet for pick/younger asset. We are too old and too slow as it is. Its 4th and 20 and they need to punt on this season. Retool on the fly and prep for next year with some youth and cap space.
Fear the old dudes!

That Holland guy just had EDM in game 7 of the finals.

That McPhee guy built Vegas took them to the finals in year one, stepped up to president, McCrimmon was the GM of the Cup winner.

Another old dude from envious fans…Dallas GM Jim Nill is 66. He’s exempt from old dude status though for some reason.

Chuck Fletcher is god awful, Lombardi is done - he’s enjoying his ranch/country life. Wilson is ‘retired’ and fans would go ballistic since he eventually hired some family while GM of the Sharks too. That’s a no no in Islesland.

The younger/faster/spreadsheet GM model started in 2016 with Chyka and later double down on the stupidity with Dubas in 2018. That model hasn’t produced a championship, barely playoff wins, but a lot of messy rosters that those teams are still trying to work through years later…
 

saintunspecified

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The question for me is, who potentially has the energy, and the charisma to build the coaching, development, and scouting staff? The issue with going with a name GM is that it creates pressure for immediate results. That's important, but the other stuff is more important.

imo I would look for someone who is looking to establish their place/brand, but has credibility to begin with. One name that seems kind of intriguing is Ray Whitney.

Something between NHL relic and recently retired NHL goalie
You say that, and then NYI hire Sean Burke.
 

MJF

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Thomas Hickey should be given a management position in the organization. Assistant GM. He is a bright guy who I think would do well once he learns the business side of the game.
 

Strummergas

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Thomas Hickey should be given a management position in the organization. Assistant GM. He is a bright guy who I think would do well once he learns the business side of the game.

Couldn't he do better salary wise on TV though? He's also very good at that and seems to be a rising star of sorts.
 

MJF

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Couldn't he do better salary wise on TV though? He's also very good at that and seems to be a rising star of sorts.
I suppose so. Hickey is very good at his tv gigs. I don't know what the pay difference is for tv analysts and team executives. It's also possible he'd like to try implementing a vision he has for a pro organization. It might be intriguing enough for him to want to try it.
 
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No more rookie GM's. Been there, done that with middling results.

Not Roy, he's done nothing to prove he'd be an adequate GM for an NHL team

I don't know any people in particular, but someone that actually has GM experience, young enough to not be set in his/her ways and is current on the modern NHL, and not arrogant where he/she doesn't listen to other members of their staff.

Definitely not an easy position to succeed in or to fill with a qualified individual. I sincerely hope that Malkin has been on the hunt for a qualified person for a while now and is closing in on a person that can give this franchise a new direction, instill confidence in staff and players, and mostly, give the fans hope.
Why not Roy ? Hughes in Montreal has done a super job and outside of being a player agent , had no skills as GM. Roy has been something of the part albeit at the junior level so to me he’s on par with Hughes. If not Roy who knows this team, Mark Hunter would be next
 

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