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Who Would Make USA's Roster If There Was Olympics This Year?

Eye of Ra

Eye of Ra

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Insipired by the Canadian thread....


Oettinger
Hellebuyck
Demko

Slavin - Fox
Q.Hughes - McAvoy
Werenski - Carlson

J.Robertson - J.Hughes - Pavelski
Johnny Hockey - Matthews - Kane
Connor - Thompson - Tuch
B.Tkachuk - Eichel - M.Tkacuk

I would say this team is even stronger than Canada.
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M Tkachuk-Matthews-Kane
Robertson-J Hughes-Thompson
Connor-Eichel-Tuch
B Tkachuk-Larkin-Pavelski
Gaudreau, Miller

Werenski-Fox
Q Hughes-McAvoy
Slavin-Carlson
Jones

Hellebuyck
Oettinger
Gibson

Pretty thin on right wingers but plenty of centers you could use there. Looking like a really strong group right now.
 
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Eye of Ra said:
Insipired by the Canadian thread....


Oettinger
Hellebuyck
Demko

Slavin - Fox
Q.Hughes - McAvoy
Werenski - Carlson

J.Robertson - J.Hughes - Pavelski
Johnny Hockey - Matthews - Kane
Connor - Thompson - Tuch
B.Tkachuk - Eichel - M.Tkacuk

I would say this team is even stronger than Canada.
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They would load up the lines.

Slavin Fox
QHughes Mcavoy
Werenski S.Jones

Matthews Eichel M.Tkachuk
Connor J.Hughes Kane
B.Tkachuk Thompson Tuch
J Robertsson Larkin JT Miller
Pavelski Johnny
 
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I think the OP has most of the right names. Here would be my current roster:

Goaltenders (x3):

Connor Hellebucyk
Jake Oettinger
Thatcher Demko (if sound in mind/body)

Defense (x8):

Adam Fox-Quinn Hughes
Charlie McAvoy-Ryan McDonagh
Zach Werenski-Seth Jones
Jaccob Slavin-Brett Pesce

Forwards (x14):

Johnny Gaudreau-Auston Matthews-Patrick Kane
Kyle Connor-Jack Eichel-Alex DeBrincat
Jason Robertson-Jack Hughes-Cole Caufield
Matt Tkachuk-Tage Thompson-Alex Tuch
Extras: Joe Pavelski and Brady Tkachuk
 
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SOLR said:
Defence is actually pretty bad imo.
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I couldn’t disagree more. I’d argue Fox, McAvoy, Slavin are 3 of the top 8 D league-wide (along with Makar, Hedman, Josi, Karlsson, Dahlin).

And then after those 3, you have offensive support with Hughes & Werenski, defensive with McDonagh & Pesce, 2 way guys like Jones, etc.
 
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UnSandvich said:
I couldn’t disagree more. I’d argue Fox, McAvoy, Slavin are 3 of the top 8 D league-wide (along with Makar, Hedman, Josi, Karlsson, Dahlin).

And then after those 3, you have offensive support with Hughes & Werenski, defensive with McDonagh & Pesce, 2 way guys like Jones, etc.
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The issue is that the RD is weak, and this creates a whole side of weakness vs. the most elite players in the world. In best-on-best the Ds offensive contribution is not that crtiical outside of the powerplay, it's more important that pairs of D shut down the opposition consistently at 5 v 5.

A Fox - Quinn pairing would be minus 50 in a tournament like this.
 
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SOLR said:
The issue is that the RD is weak, and this creates a whole side of weakness vs. the most elite players in the world. In best-on-best the Ds offensive contribution is not that crtiical outside of the powerplay, it's more important that pairs of D shut down the opposition consistently at 5 v 5.

A Fox - Quinn pairing would be minus 50 in a tournament like this.
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I think you're seriously underrating Fox, mate. (I wouldn't put him with Hughes though, i'd do Slavin-Fox, Werenski/Hughes-McAvoy, Werenski/Hughes/McDonagh- Pesce/Jones)
 
SOLR said:
The issue is that the RD is weak, and this creates a whole side of weakness vs. the most elite players in the world. In best-on-best the Ds offensive contribution is not that crtiical outside of the powerplay, it's more important that pairs of D shut down the opposition consistently at 5 v 5.

A Fox - Quinn pairing would be minus 50 in a tournament like this.
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Maybe on the 3rd pair, since Jones and Carlson are kind of iffy nowadays. Top 4 LD and RD is solid as hell.
 
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Hughes would need to be played on the wing. He is terrible on draws at this point in his career. Only knock on him from me.
 
SOLR said:
The issue is that the RD is weak, and this creates a whole side of weakness vs. the most elite players in the world. In best-on-best the Ds offensive contribution is not that crtiical outside of the powerplay, it's more important that pairs of D shut down the opposition consistently at 5 v 5.

A Fox - Quinn pairing would be minus 50 in a tournament like this.
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No one in their right mind is pairing highest fox so give your head a shake.

D

Miller - Fox
Slavin - McAvoy
Werenski- Jones
McDonough

F

Tkachuk - Matthews - Hughes
Tkachuk - Thompson - Tuch
Kreider - Larkin - Miller
Gaudreau - Eichel - Kane
Pavelski - Connor

PP 1

Hughes - Fox
Kreider - Matthews - Thompson

KillerMillerTime said:
No one in their right mind is pairing highest fox so give your head a shake.

D

Miller - Fox
Slavin - McAvoy
Werenski- Jones
McDonough

F

Tkachuk - Matthews - Hughes
Tkachuk - Thompson - Tuch
Kreider - Larkin - Robertson
Gaudreau - Eichel - Kane
Pavelski - Connor

PP 1

Hughes - Fox
Kreider - Matthews - Thompson
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Sub Robertson for Miller
 
KillerMillerTime said:
No one in their right mind is pairing highest fox so give your head a shake.

D

Miller - Fox
Slavin - McAvoy
Werenski- Jones
McDonough

F

Tkachuk - Matthews - Hughes
Tkachuk - Thompson - Tuch
Kreider - Larkin - Miller
Gaudreau - Eichel - Kane
Pavelski - Connor

PP 1

Hughes - Fox
Kreider - Matthews - Thompson



Sub Robertson for Miller
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I was replying... give your head a shake.

Still a bad D against McDavid and co.
 
SOLR said:
I was replying... give your head a shake.

Still a bad D against McDavid and co.
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It's not a bad D, so stop the non-sense. Slavin is a top 10 defensive D man in the NHL, no question. McAvoy is solid defensively and Miller paired with Fox and not Trouba and Fox not paired with Lindgren but Miller, makes Fox and Miller more effective players.

IMO a potentially GREAT pairing.

Follow that up with
Slavin\McAvoy and your top 2 pairs are absolutely solid Defensively.
 
ElLeetch said:
its anchored by a Norris winner who is on pace to be nominated again this year.



Fox is elite defensively. Have you never even watched him?
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He's elite at the NHL level. This ain't the NHL level. You won't face a line with McDavid and McKinnon in the NHL. The kinds of Ds that work at that level, are weirdly different.
 
SOLR said:
He's elite at the NHL level. This ain't the NHL level. You won't face a line with McDavid and McKinnon in the NHL. The kinds of Ds that work at that level, are weirdly different.
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This is the dumbest thing I've heard on this site.
 
Rabid Ranger said:
This is the dumbest thing I've heard on this site.
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Why?

You don't think that a line with 3 of the best players in the world at the same time, is not another level?

Not saying Fox would not do well, but I've looked at it quite a bit, and against the top physical elites, he sometimes struggles a bit outside of 1v1 situations - he's not your cerebral type like Lidstrom or Nieds who can go back & forth between playing the man & zone (something you need more when you are facing multiple top talents at the same time.
 
SOLR said:
Why?

You don't think that a line with 3 of the best players in the world at the same time, is not another level?

Not saying Fox would not do well, but I've looked at it quite a bit, and against the top physical elites, he sometimes struggles a bit outside of 1v1 situations - he's not your cerebral type like Lidstrom or Nieds who can go back & forth between playing the man & zone (something you need more when you are facing multiple top talents at the same time.
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Fox is one of the most cerebral defensemen in hockey right now - that's how a guy who isn't the fastest or the biggest can dominate forwards by knowing where to be to kill and turn plays and having the stick skills to do it.
 
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Chainshot said:
Fox is one of the most cerebral defensemen in hockey right now - that's how a guy who isn't the fastest or the biggest can dominate forwards by knowing where to be to kill and turn plays and having the stick skills to do it.
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He's 1v1 cerebral, incredible. Zone wise, he's good, but not elite like Lidstrom/Nieds were. Makes me think of Markov a lot.
 
SOLR said:
He's elite at the NHL level. This ain't the NHL level. You won't face a line with McDavid and McKinnon in the NHL. The kinds of Ds that work at that level, are weirdly different.
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SOLR said:
He's 1v1 cerebral, incredible. Zone wise, he's good, but not elite like Lidstrom/Nieds were. Makes me think of Markov a lot.
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Hey pal why don't you quit hijacking the thread? This thread is who would make TEAM USA.
 
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