Who will lead this year's NYR team in scoring?
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You did not show up often enough last year.
I see you in the high 30’s to low 40’s point wise before being traded to Nashville.
This is wildly optimistic IMO.
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Probably, but I'm higher on this roster than most seem to be. I think we'll be 2010-11 level competitive (playoff bubble team) with an above average offence (top 10 PP) and a below average defence (not bottom 5).
Edge
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Zucc will be the leading scorer at the time of his trade.
251 would put them at 3.06 GPG which would have put them in or around the top 10 last year.
Unless they get a zillion PP's (I agree they should have a top 10 PP, they have enough to send out 2 very good units) I can't see any way they sniff those numbers. We sent a bunch of goals out of town last February and the guys we brought back aren't exactly finishers.
The defense is a bigger mystery. I mean there is no way they suck as much as last year, but they'll still suck pretty hard. May not be a bottom 5 team (I'd still say that it probably is) but it won't be too far off if it isn't.
I'll go with Zibanejad if he can stay healthy a full year along with Shattenkirk. He has the ability to be a top PP guy which is where most of the top scorers pick up their points. Arniel was an imbecile. He should have been fired years ago. I think you'll see more of a defensive system put in. I would suspect if things work, the team will have 4-5 guys around 50 points. That's fine if you aren't letting guys stand wide open in front of your own net which has been the case the past 3 years.
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You shouldn't include the last part of the season. We were fighting for a playoff spot. Then the management decided to pull the plug, and issued a public letter. The players got pissed and wanted to leave, then you can't expect much of an effort.
Zucc is ready for a possible trade, and will receive a new challenge with open arms. But if they want him here to help with this rebuild...fine, he's a professional who will show up 100%. And he loves New York.
Y'know, I've always had a soft spot for Mats... but you've almost singlehandedly made me irrationally tired of even thinking about him. Get a room, for God's sake.
Not all of them. Kreider, Zibanejad, Hayes, Skjei and Fast all played very well.
Again, it's not an excuse. You should have played better.
PS: You struggled even before the letter went out.
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Andersson-Chytil-Spooner would be brutal
Here’s my point expectations though, let’s pretend everyone plays 82 games
Zib-just under 60 (I’ll say 58)
Buch-around the same as Zib, I’ll say 57
Kreider-55
Zucc-54
Chytil-43
Hayes-52
Spooner-50
Vladdy-38
Lias-36
Vesey-29
Fast-32
Nieves-16
Shatty-47
Skjei-31
Pionk-27
Deangelo-27
Staal-13
Smith-16
(Points are a bit out of order, too lazy to fix)
Lines
Kreider-Zib-Buch
Namestnikov-Chytil-Zucc
Andersson-Hayes-Spooner
Vesey-Nieves-Fast
Skjei-Shatty
Staal-Pionk
Smith-Deangelo
Hayes got a put up or shut up deal and I think he will do his part and have a breakout year this year and lead the team in scoring. What happens after that(contract extension, trade) will be interesting
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Poor Skjei is the only one without a career year.
But Fast gets 30 points with 6 minutes per game.
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Thought process is (not that I agree or disagree) is that lengthening the bench like that will keep guys from tiring out late in games later in the season.
Seems to be one of those "I'm smarter than everyone else" type of concepts
If I were HC, my 4th line would get no more than 7 minutes a night
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
It's funny, I look at the list and instinctively want to apply my "HF Minus 5" points approach to the forwards from Zibanejad to Spooner, and Shatty.
That's not a reflection on you, it's just that this board is almost consistent in being about 5 or so points over on guys.
Buchnevich 24-34-58
Zibanejad 28-28-56
Hayes 24-28-52
Kreider 26-21-47
Zuccarello 14-33-47
Chytil 20-25-45
Shattenkirk 8-35-43
Namestnikov 17-25-42
Andersson 18-22-40
Spooner 17-23-40
Fast 16-17-33
Skjei 8-25-33
Vesey 16-15-31
Pionk 6-23-29
DeAngelo 4-20-24
Hajek 3-15-18 (62 games)
Nieves 3-11-14 (62 games)
Staal 2-10-12
Howden 4-5-9 (20 games)
Smith 1-1-2 (20 games)
249 goals.
Zibanejad 28-28-56
Hayes 24-28-52
Kreider 26-21-47
Zuccarello 14-33-47
Chytil 20-25-45
Shattenkirk 8-35-43
Namestnikov 17-25-42
Andersson 18-22-40
Spooner 17-23-40
Fast 16-17-33
Skjei 8-25-33
Vesey 16-15-31
Pionk 6-23-29
DeAngelo 4-20-24
Hajek 3-15-18 (62 games)
Nieves 3-11-14 (62 games)
Staal 2-10-12
Howden 4-5-9 (20 games)
Smith 1-1-2 (20 games)
249 goals.
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KirkAlbuquerque
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Mac n Gs
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I think we could’ve had it under AV, but he favored scoring by committee and liked to roll his ice time pretty evenly. I do think Stepan could’ve easily been a 20-40 guy if he was given more 5v5 ice time.
However, I do think it was a talent issue under Torts, but he at least had Gaborik potting 40 to make up for the lack of homegrown talent.
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Zucc had 61 points in the 15-16 season, and plays top D minutes. So there we have one...
Mac n Gs
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Yes, and if you quoted the entire post, you would’ve seen that I mentioned that. I’ll ignore your weird Zucc troll agenda for a second to re-address my original point:
We haven’t drafted a player that has turned into a 60+ point player under Sather. Neil Smith has his track record of striking gold with the obvious guys, but we haven’t done it since. We’ve acquired players that have done it, like Gomez, Jagr, Nylander, Gaborik, Nash, Zucc, and Brassard, but we haven’t drafted one. Hell, even out of those guys, only Jagr, Nylander, and Gaborik have done it multiple times.
So, no, we can’t rely on Zucc to be a consistent 60+ point player since he’s only done it once in his entire career.
