The KHL eye test is a terrible predictor of how successful a player will be in the NHL. Throw Daniel Sprong in the KHL and he'll look like the next Jesus Christ.
I did not. Can you share a KHL source for that? I'd be very interested to compare the amount (and types) of minutes that these guys play. As well as EV vs PP production.
Eye test is a terrible predictor but comparing pts/gm of 2 different league is? And like others have said, stats wise, Demidov have been superior to Michkov in the khl. The only one who doesnt agree is Michkov girlfriend, Headlicehatty
Brother another Russian player is going to break Wayne Gretzky’s goal record literally this week and even HE isn’t the most talented Russian player ever (it’s Makarov)
How did Radulov, Gusev, Dadonov, etc. pan out in the NHL? Dominance in the KHL is not proof of subsequent dominance in the NHL. I mean don't get me wrong, Demidov could well become the next Kucherov for all we know but there's also the possibility that he won't adapt as well to the NHL. Even if he adapts enough to be a 60 point guy, that's still below expectations being placed on him. And I know there's a difference with Michkov and Demidov because they displayed dominance in the KHL at a young age but there's still a wide difference between the way the game is played in the KHL vs. The NHL.
@Bombshell11 has been awfully quiet since Celebrini has plummeted in +/- , since that’s been his whole shtick about why Bedard isn’t very good
Yes, I agree 100% but that was not the point. Comparing pts/gm on different league is foolish. Comparing players who played in the same league is not, like michkov vs demidov
Me think you forgot to check Makarov's age in his rookie season, lmao
I don't think the difference between the two at the KHL level is wide enough that you can make any conclusions either. They played for different teams and had to contend with different situations. And then you get into the point that Michkov has proven that adapting to the smaller ice with faster pace of play, tighter defense, and bigger/more talented defenders hasn't been a problem for Michkov. His all around effort is wanting, but as first year production while adapting to the NA game goes, adaptation really isn't a concern. Given that Demidov is doing as well as he has been, odds are he'll adapt to the NHL too. The question is how well will he adapt? We don't know the answer to that question. So if your point is that raw statistics say that Demidov produced more raw points than Michkov in the same league at the same age, fine. I just don't think you can draw any definitive conclusions as to how he'll do here from that.
Why are you being so reasonable, post a hot take dude come on
Well I did kind of brain fart the last part but I mean it's true. I don't think you can say either way who will be better. For all we know, Demidov could adapt so well that he produces as well or better than Michkov and could end up playing a better all around game. Or he could struggle and end up as a solid second liner or low end first liner. Just too early to say.
THe hype train is about to derail
Im talking about eye test, not statistics. I've watched them both a good amount of game and like I said, Demidov, for what we can compare, have been the better player in the khl. Will it translate to the nhl, no one know like you said. Hell, they could all regress after their 1st year like Yakupov for all we know. And for your info, smaller rink isn't of actuality anymore. Every big market play on a nhl sized rink now, including ska
He's not even the best player out of them this season though.. Hutson is.
The question is in the future not right now. And I would take him right now too, but I don't want to get into that debate
Celebrini is 3 years younger than Hutson and already better defensively.
