He never really was though. The only argument at one point was that Toews played on teams that won everything. Of course he was a big part of those wins, but he never was better than Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin etc.This is Toews. I think people forget how dominant he was because he lingered for a long time. At one point, I think you could at least argue that he was the best player in hockey. That was never true for Roenick.