Who stays/leaves if the Bruins rebuild next year?

[Beesfan]

Man, lots of people really seem to dislike Nash. Not only in this thread but in general on this board. I think he's a fine 4th liner.

Agreed. Versatile player, strong two-way game, chips in some offense, kills penalties, good character and he comes at a good price. Even if he sits, he's worth it at his cap hit.

 

[SPV]

You had me until "Andeoff"

And Lauzon is spelled L-A-U-Z-O-N, not M-U-Z-Z-I-N.

Other than that, looks about right

I saw him a lot in Manchester, he strikes me as a good fourth liner. can pay two way hockey and hits and fights

Muzzin had an off-year but would be a great top 4 guy to go with Carlo, Krug, and McAvoy after Chara retires.

I have high hopes for Lauzon, but we can't expect all our defenseman to jump right in just because the last two guys have! LOL

 

[Fonzerelli]

I saw him a lot in Manchester, he strikes me as a good fourth liner. can pay two way hockey and hits and fights

Muzzin had an off-year but would be a great top 4 guy to go with Carlo, Krug, and McAvoy after Chara retires.

I have high hopes for Lauzon, but we can't expect all our defenseman to jump right in just because the last two guys have! LOL

Oh, Manchester fan. Do you remember Bud Holloway?

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

from what i have seen of him in the playoffs he has lots left in the tank. would be a great add.

i would not bring back Stafford. he seems to be invisible alot of the time.

Really? He's about a point-every-other-game player; scored some big goals for us in his short time here; doesn't make too many mistakes; not flashy but, like Moore, veteran presence. hmm.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

I would try to unload Chara. It's just time... he's pretty cooked.

This past Autumn, I totally felt the same way but, to be fair, the Bruins really managed his time very well this season and didn't burn him out. He's actually been a very good asset for us as a result. Though he's no longer the dominant force he once was, the braintrust has showed that, properly managed, he can still be very serviceable and is far from cooked. Happy with this outcome.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Agreed. Versatile player, strong two-way game, chips in some offense, kills penalties, good character and he comes at a good price. Even if he sits, he's worth it at his cap hit.

Nash and Moore have been my favorite bottom 6 Bruins since Peverley & Kelly's first couple years here. I really like what they bring, especially Moore.

 

[ODAAT]

This past Autumn, I totally felt the same way but, to be fair, the Bruins really managed his time very well this season and didn't burn him out. He's actually been a very good asset for us as a result. Though he's no longer the dominant force he once was, the braintrust has showed that, properly managed, he can still be very serviceable and is far from cooked. Happy with this outcome.

One more year of Z, allow him to continue working with youth, Carlo and McAvoy, then hand the reigns over to the D-man who I think will wind up being the mentor to younger players on the back end in Krug

 

[Chiz1982]

LOL @ thought of Rebuild.

Liles definitely will not be coming back - savings of $2Mil
We will probably lose C Miller - Savings of $1Mil
Chara will make less - Savings of $2.91Mil
Rinaldo will not be coming back - $850k

Savings of 6 Mil

Sieds buyout will cost a Mil more - $1Mil
Marchand's cap goes up -1.65Mil
Spooner resign $3.5Mill??
Pastrnak resign $5.5Mil??
Accuri resign $900k??
Czarnik resign $900k??

Cost of $13.5Mil approx (Where we getting the cap money$$? lol)

Stafford resign would be roughly $4Mil?? but if we don't then theres 4 mil we desperately need. (Won't be able to afford, so scratch him)

Hopefully O'Gara, Zboril make jump on D, MacAvoy a shoe in.

 

[ODAAT]

LOL @ thought of Rebuild.

Liles definitely will not be coming back - savings of $2Mil
We will probably lose C Miller - Savings of $1Mil
Chara will make less - Savings of $2.91Mil
Rinaldo will not be coming back - $850k

Savings of 6 Mil

Sieds buyout will cost a Mil more - $1Mil
Marchand's cap goes up -1.65Mil
Spooner resign $3.5Mill??
Pastrnak resign $5.5Mil??
Accuri resign $900k??
Czarnik resign $900k??

Cost of $13.5Mil approx (Where we getting the cap money$$? lol)

Stafford resign would be roughly $4Mil?? but if we don't then theres 4 mil we desperately need. (Won't be able to afford, so scratch him)

Hopefully O'Gara, Zboril make jump on D, MacAvoy a shoe in.

IMO we are watching Spooner`s last games as a Bruin

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

Really? He's about a point-every-other-game player; scored some big goals for us in his short time here; doesn't make too many mistakes; not flashy but, like Moore, veteran presence. hmm.

Yeah I'm curious about that too. If he takes a 1 year deal (and its low enough to fit into the cap structure) I'd sign him in a heartbeat, same as Liles. People act like signing these veterans will "block" any rookies from coming up.

See: Carlo, Brandon.

Plus, its not like any of them getting some time in the AHL will hurt them.

 

[Southiechickie]

Ohhhhhh ... Gothberg ... very clever. I forgot about the name change. Zane McIntyre

What in the world are the family ties that bind us to Jimmy Hayes?
Am I missing something here?!?

 

[Fonzerelli]

Nash and Moore have been my favorite bottom 6 Bruins since Peverley & Kelly's first couple years here. I really like what they bring, especially Moore.

Agreed

IMO we are watching Spooner`s last games as a Bruin

Agreed

Plus, its not like any of them (bottom 6 vets) getting some time in the AHL will hurt them.

Agreed

Liles definitely will not be coming back - savings of $2Mil
We will probably lose C Miller - Savings of $1Mil
Chara will make less - Savings of $2.91Mil
Rinaldo will not be coming back - $850k

Savings of 6 Mil

Probably lose K.Miller. An even bigger savings, so 7.5 million ...

Czarnik resign $900k??

A Czarnik re-signing shouldn't cost us anything, as if he is re-signed, it's likely for veteran leadership and offensive punch in Providence. I don't see Czarnik in the Boston plans moving forward.

Stafford resign would be roughly $4Mil??

Nobody is giving Stafford 4 millions. If we can get him on a one year deal for 1-2 mill it's worth looking at, otherwise, good luck to him elsewhere, but I don't think anyone is beating down the door with a better offer. Afterall, we did get him for a 6th round pick.

 

[CellyHard]

Not rebuilding. I think this team desperately needs a bottom 6 center. Backes wasn't and shouldnt switch there because we need him on the RW. JFK isn't ready and needs time. Spooner, like others have said, is playing his last games here.

I think Bonino and Hanzal may cost a little too much but if the money is right I'd take a look at Brian Boyle. Something like 2-2.5 over 2-3 years. Could switch to 4th line C after another year of Moore.

We need some jam. He averages 74 games per year since 2010 (4 full 82 game seasons). Will give you about 25 points, 150 hits and above 50% at the dot.

25 points whaaat. Let me put it this way, he's going to get them on even strength. Spooners average of even strength points over the last 2 years....26 while also playing soft, subpar defense and an extremely low FO%.

 

[Chiz1982]

Agreed



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Agreed



Probably lose K.Miller. An even bigger savings, so 7.5 million ...




A Czarnik re-signing shouldn't cost us anything, as if he is re-signed, it's likely for veteran leadership and offensive punch in Providence. I don't see Czarnik in the Boston plans moving forward.



Nobody is giving Stafford 4 millions. If we can get him on a one year deal for 1-2 mill it's worth looking at, otherwise, good luck to him elsewhere, but I don't think anyone is beating down the door with a better offer. Afterall, we did get him for a 6th round pick.

Great points... I also neglected to include that we could move Hayes and Beleskey to free up even more cap. I think it would be worth trading away draft picks Just to move one or both and maybe trade Spooner for the equivalent draft picks. Hopefully sign someone from FA that doesn't end up like the Beleskey signing lol

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Really? He's about a point-every-other-game player; scored some big goals for us in his short time here; doesn't make too many mistakes; not flashy but, like Moore, veteran presence. hmm.

Replacing Hayes or Belesky on the roster, sure.

Overall, largely not a high priority in my opinion.

 

[DKH]

This past Autumn, I totally felt the same way but, to be fair, the Bruins really managed his time very well this season and didn't burn him out. He's actually been a very good asset for us as a result. Though he's no longer the dominant force he once was, the braintrust has showed that, properly managed, he can still be very serviceable and is far from cooked. Happy with this outcome.

Great points - he's a $4 M cap hit next year and then a left shot prospect takes over the following year

Eventually I see WJC teammates McAvoy & Lingren pairing up

 

[Fonzerelli]

Great points... I also neglected to include that we could move Hayes and Beleskey to free up even more cap. I think it would be worth trading away draft picks Just to move one or both and maybe trade Spooner for the equivalent draft picks. Hopefully sign someone from FA that doesn't end up like the Beleskey signing lol

I agree except I dont think it ill be draft picks. We need those to keep re-loading. It'll most likely be prospects that get moved to unload those contracts

 

[wintersej]

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/303760

Spooner (RFA) + Zboril + Cehlarik for Palat (RFA)

Bruins need to exchange some of their prospect depth for a top 6 winger for Krejci. The D is set with McAvoy + Carlo.

 

[CellyHard]

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/303760

Spooner (RFA) + Zboril + Cehlarik for Palat (RFA)

Bruins need to exchange some of their prospect depth for a top 6 winger for Krejci. The D is set with McAvoy + Carlo.

I would imagine the price for their assistant captain would probably be more. I think you're on to something though. I wouldn't hesitate including a first round pick as well.

Tampa also desperately needs a RH top 4 defensemen. Colin Miller may be a guy who would really really intrigue them, especially at his cap hit.

 

[wintersej]

I would imagine the price for their assistant captain would probably be more. I think you're on to something though. I wouldn't hesitate including a first round pick as well.

Tampa also desperately needs a RH top 4 defensemen. Colin Miller may be a guy who would really really intrigue them, especially at his cap hit.

Perhaps, they are in a bit of a cap crunch with all their RFAs. I do think that Landy/Palat/someone like that should be the teams goal. A top 6 guy that can fill the age gap between the kids and the vets.

 

[PB37]

The impending Pasta deal will force the Bruins to change some things. I wrote a post about this a couple of weeks ago, which I'll amend a little bit here:

If the cap stays the same, the Bruins will have roughly 10.6 cap room ( which includes the Seidenberg buyout, the Chara cap hit reduction, and Marchand's new deal kicking in )

Boston UFAs

Drew Stafford - UFA
Dom Moore - UFA
John Liles - UFA

I can see the Bruins moving on from all of them.


Boston RFAs

David Pastrnak - RFA
Ryan Spooner - RFA
Joe Morrow - RFA
Tim Schaller - RFA
Noel Acciari - RFA


Pasta will most likely get around 6 on his cap hit.

Spooner is a tough one. He plays a vital role on the PP, but his 5v5 work is something that the Bruins have been desperately sheltering for two years now. It's just as possible they trade his rights as it is they sign him to a 1 year/show me deal.

I think Morrow and Schaller won't get tendered.

Noel Acciari will most likely get signed on the cheap.


Bruins possible trade bait/expansion draft released players

Jimmy Hayes - 1 x 2.3
Matt Beleskey - 3 x 3.8
Kevan Miller - 3 x 2.3
Ryan Spooner - RFA

Some would add Adam McQuaid here as well ( 2 x 2.75 ) but I think the Bruins value his status as a strong locker room guy as well as an on ice leader.

So while the Bruins do have some room this offseason, they will have to do some wheeling and dealing to clear up some more space to fit in Pasta's new deal and the new kids coming up on their ELC's.

If we're running under the daydream that Hayes and Beleskey are as good as gone and their cap hits are somehow magically erased, that takes care of the Pasta extension, but still only leaves us with around 10 mill to spread around to 7 spots in the lineup.



Marchand -- Bergeron -- Backes

XXXXX -- Krejci -- Pasta

Vatrano -- XXXXX -- XXXXX

XXXXXX -- Nash -- XXXXXXX

extra forward: XXXXXX



Krug -- Carlo

Chara -- McAvoy

KMiller -- McQuaid

extra dman: XXXXX


Rask
Doby


The Bruins are going to have to get creative this off-season.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

i posted earlier what i believe will happen but im going to also post here what id like to happen

i do want krecjis contract moved... lets imagine he goes to vegas with belesky. they agree to take subban and give us a top 4 dman from their draft. i'll say maybe josh manson out of anaheim.

with manson in... makes sense to move mcquaid. package hayes with him to colorado and get soderberg at 1/2 price

this is 4 regulars gone at over 15 mill... 2 regulars in at around 3.5 mill

id shop some kids for some potential useful vets. try to flip spooner for a better center

maybe move spooner, vatrano, and our first for adam henrique or someone like that

most my moves are designed to free up cap space and give kids room to grow. im not even caring if we make playoffs next year as long as we finish bottom 5 for a better pick

my target date to compete is minimum 3 years from now

with that in mind i respectively ask what contender chara wants to be moved to at the deadline

with carlo, mcavoy, krug, and maybe manson i like how the defense is shaping up...

id spend my picks on high potential forwards the next two seasons. id try to keep 2 vets per line and try to break kids in softly

center depth with bergeron, henrique, soderberg, jfk is good to me

top wingers marchand, pastranak, backes need a guy to step up over the next 3 years but with the cap room we could sign an ufa.

to me its important to maintain cap room and have the right veterns to grow the kids with

 

[CellyHard]

Perhaps, they are in a bit of a cap crunch with all their RFAs. I do think that Landy/Palat/someone like that should be the teams goal. A top 6 guy that can fill the age gap between the kids and the vets.

Couldn't agree more, especially someone that can play on Krejci's left.

I mean you would think between guys like Spooner, C.Miller, Vatrano, Zboril, Heinen/Ceharlik and a 1st round pick that it would entice someone on a rebuild or in a cap crunch...even if we have to cough up another player we'd hate to see go. Our prospect pool is deep enough for this exact reason.

 

[Pia8988]

i posted earlier what i believe will happen but im going to also post here what id like to happen

i do want krecjis contract moved... lets imagine he goes to vegas with belesky. they agree to take subban and give us a top 4 dman from their draft. i'll say maybe josh manson out of anaheim.

with manson in... makes sense to move mcquaid. package hayes with him to colorado and get soderberg at 1/2 price

this is 4 regulars gone at over 15 mill... 2 regulars in at around 3.5 mill

id shop some kids for some potential useful vets. try to flip spooner for a better center

maybe move spooner, vatrano, and our first for adam henrique or someone like that

most my moves are designed to free up cap space and give kids room to grow. im not even caring if we make playoffs next year as long as we finish bottom 5 for a better pick

my target date to compete is minimum 3 years from now

with that in mind i respectively ask what contender chara wants to be moved to at the deadline

with carlo, mcavoy, krug, and maybe manson i like how the defense is shaping up...

id spend my picks on high potential forwards the next two seasons. id try to keep 2 vets per line and try to break kids in softly

center depth with bergeron, henrique, soderberg, jfk is good to me

top wingers marchand, pastranak, backes need a guy to step up over the next 3 years but with the cap room we could sign an ufa.

to me its important to maintain cap room and have the right veterns to grow the kids with

Manson will 100% be protected. Vatanen will be the odd D out

 

[patty59]

Beleskey, Hayes and Spooner need to take a ****ing hike.