Speculation: Who should be the new GM of the Washington Capitals?

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Langway

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If pro scouting is a key factor the former GMs have an edge in having past ultimate say on those decisions (if not ability). Among the AGMs it's hard to pinpoint their degree of influence. Will, Gorton and Fenton seem like the most influential and experienced in that area among the AGMs. Maciver and Sweeney seem more like player development types for the most part. (But, again, hard to say definitively when it comes to AGM influence/responsibilities.)

Fishman did a pretty decent job with Carlson & Alzner. His work up front...a lot less appealing outside of Backstrom. Fishman wouldn't work in isolation anyway, esp. since the new GM likely would actually talk to player agents and not require a go-between.

Pro scouting, usage of analytics to further inform contract/personnel decisions are keys. Experience with a winner and valuing player development are two other big advantages.
 

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We're gonna totally screw this up. Watch. I have very little faith in Ted.
Hey, under Ted they win 52% of the time, and like Smooth Jimmy Apollo says, when you're right 52% of the time, you're wrong 48% of the time.
 

txpd

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We're gonna totally screw this up. Watch. I have very little faith in Ted.

its better than keeping McPhee, isn't it? if they screw it up, we can watch em fire this guy in two or three years. that's almost as much fun as winning. just remember it couldn't get worse than McPhee
 

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its better than keeping McPhee, isn't it? if they screw it up, we can watch em fire this guy in two or three years. that's almost as much fun as winning. just remember it couldn't get worse than McPhee

lol, you are just itching to throw this in peoples faces. Stop being such a George apologist, Tex (or a poop disturber, whichever it is)

The team needed a new leader. Under the old one, they werent going to win the Cup. 17 freaking years was enough time.

Pro Sports isnt a marriage. Its not forever. Caps needed to make a change. Whatever the answer is DOES NOT mean they should have kept George. The goal isnt to be 10th out of 30th each and every year. Its to be first. Caps couldnt make final 4 under George, so they needed to make a change.

If it gets worse, it gets worse. In the end, they werent going to win with George, so they needed to change.

Dont you get that? Seems like not at all--
 

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lol, you are just itching to throw this in peoples faces. Stop being such a George apologist, Tex (or a poop disturber, whichever it is)

The team needed a new leader. Under the old one, they werent going to win the Cup. 17 freaking years was enough time.

Pro Sports isnt a marriage. Its not forever. Caps needed to make a change. Whatever the answer is DOES NOT mean they should have kept George. The goal isnt to be 10th out of 30th each and every year. Its to be first. Caps couldnt make final 4 under George, so they needed to make a change.

If it gets worse, it gets worse. In the end, they werent going to win with George, so they needed to change.

Dont you get that? Seems like not at all--

It will be interesting to see how people who made excuses for GMGM and accused fans of wanting the team to fail will handle this change. This team has had the same GM for longer than most current message boards have been around. Some people are going to have to change their tunes and start rooting for whoever the new guy is or, by their own logic, be seen as rooting for failure.
 

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It will be interesting to see how people who made excuses for GMGM and accused fans of wanting the team to fail will handle this change. This team has had the same GM for longer than most current message boards have been around. Some people are going to have to change their tunes and start rooting for whoever the new guy is or, by their own logic, be seen as rooting for failure.

Whomever is selected needs to be supported. Even if its the assistant GM guy, or Fishman. It would be pretty hard to give someone from the old regime a long leash, as that would lend to a "more of the same" thought process if things dont work out well.

A totally new fresh set of eyes (experienced, but not in Capsland) should be given a decently long leash, unless they make repeated decisions so idiotic as to cast a massive shadown over the franchise and attendance of the games.

Its pretty simple for me.
 

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MacLean "I spoke to a player on that Capitals team & he told me Ovechkin comes to the weight room does curls and then walks out"

Is this a guy a ****ing a Pejorative Slur? I think we can rule him out as the Capitals GM.
 

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Fenton, Shero, and Sweeney are the 3 I'd like. Will, Maciver, and Brisebois aren't bad choices either. If it's anyone besides those 6 I'll probably be pretty disappointed.
 

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Fenton, Shero, and Sweeney are the 3 I'd like. Will, Maciver, and Brisebois aren't bad choices either. If it's anyone besides those 6 I'll probably be pretty disappointed.

welp, prepare to be disappointed.

edit : actually I take it back., if you're a caps fan.. you should be used to disappointment by now
 

txpd

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It will be interesting to see how people who made excuses for GMGM and accused fans of wanting the team to fail will handle this change. This team has had the same GM for longer than most current message boards have been around. Some people are going to have to change their tunes and start rooting for whoever the new guy is or, by their own logic, be seen as rooting for failure.

i think you are on the wrong track. there are far more people here that are negative toward the team that you will find more interesting to watch with the new regime. they will continue to be negative.

you can already see it. i imagine you are talking about me and about rouser. so far, you have not seen me posting negative anti team stuff. i will be eager to see how the team looks.

meanwhile there will be many of McPhee's greatest detractors that will immediately after a gm and or coach are hired that will focus on the people that hired them as proof that the team is doomed and continue to rip the team. you watch that.

yes, you will find me poking fun at those that said "anyone but McPhee" and "it cant get worse" who will be whining about the new hires right away.

what i read in your post above is that those of use that tried to support the team are not allowed to complain about the changes while those that have been doing nothing but complaining til now are free to continue down that road. do you really mean to say that?
 

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i think you are on the wrong track. there are far more people here that are negative toward the team that you will find more interesting to watch with the new regime. they will continue to be negative.

you can already see it. i imagine you are talking about me and about rouser. so far, you have not seen me posting negative anti team stuff. i will be eager to see how the team looks.

meanwhile there will be many of McPhee's greatest detractors that will immediately after a gm and or coach are hired that will focus on the people that hired them as proof that the team is doomed and continue to rip the team. you watch that.

yes, you will find me poking fun at those that said "anyone but McPhee" and "it cant get worse" who will be whining about the new hires right away.

what i read in your post above is that those of use that tried to support the team are not allowed to complain about the changes while those that have been doing nothing but complaining til now are free to continue down that road. do you really mean to say that?

and I see you side-stepped my comments. Goon was commenting to me. Are you not comfortable addressing what I asked you?
 

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I think Shero and Trotz should make a good team. GM not afraid change things up roster wise and Trotz who will finally have some financial backing.
 

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i think you are on the wrong track. there are far more people here that are negative toward the team that you will find more interesting to watch with the new regime. they will continue to be negative.

you can already see it. i imagine you are talking about me and about rouser. so far, you have not seen me posting negative anti team stuff. i will be eager to see how the team looks.

meanwhile there will be many of McPhee's greatest detractors that will immediately after a gm and or coach are hired that will focus on the people that hired them as proof that the team is doomed and continue to rip the team. you watch that.

yes, you will find me poking fun at those that said "anyone but McPhee" and "it cant get worse" who will be whining about the new hires right away.

what i read in your post above is that those of use that tried to support the team are not allowed to complain about the changes while those that have been doing nothing but complaining til now are free to continue down that road. do you really mean to say that?

I said what I meant and meant what I said.

And what you seem to be saying is that those of us who have been RIGHT about this team being less than advertised, despite the spin of people who don't want to hear it, are just being negative for no reason whatsoever while those who embrace positivity in the face of all evidence to the contrary are the only ones who "support" the team.

Do you really believe that? Do you not see how people will be skeptical of the attitudes of people who have defended failure and the architects of that failure year after year?
 

txpd

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we have some posters here that only post when there is something negative or snarky to be said. you cant deny that. those people are not suddenly going to be pro team. some of them well just continue down the same road as they wont approve of the new hires and go back to the hate immediately after the announcement.

you know I am right.

as for me....I am critical of them. as for you....you are skeptical of me? really? shock.

so...other than questioning leonsis role in the mess that was last season and the oates era
what have I said that is negative team? you seem to be wanting me to rah rah something that hasn't happened while what I have been doing mostly is saying people should wait to see what happens before they start pitching the doom. so...I am not sure why you are after me on this
 
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