Re: #68 - Someone will have a better memory so correct me where I am wrong. In Jagr's last season as a Ranger, he had a clause in his contract that would have triggered another year or a team option for another year, if he hit certain scoring totals. Amazingly, Jagr went through a ridiculous slump. I can't remember how bad it was but I just remember it being inexplicably bad, and the option did not trigger. Jagr signed with a KHL team one day after the Rangers were eliminated from the PO's. Instead of taking what was believed to be a Ranger 1 year offer with a low base salary and incentives, Jagr went to Russia and earned the equivalent of $11M per season ($7M tax free in Russia) on a 2 yr deal with an option for a 3rd.
In Jagr's defense, I believe there was a second trigger for the option year based on PO scoring and he had a very good PO's.
Another thing I remember about that season is everyone knew the Rangers needed a secondary scorer and a defensive Dman. The Pens had the same needs and acquired Hossa and Hal Gill and won the Cup. Hossa put up 26 points in 20 games. Jagr put up 15 in 10.
Fox and IgorLundqvist, and then after him someone that's not on the team right now.
I think at least one 40G season needs to accompany that ring for him to be even considered.Hank's a lock. No issue with Park's 2 going up either. Anyone else, I'm not really in favor of (excluding the Cook brothers and such since that's just an era so far gone that the team wouldn't revisit at this point).
As someone mentioned earlier, I could see Kreider's number going up if they win the Cup. If he plays out his full contract, you're looking at him playing 16 seasons (including 11-12 which was playoffs only and 12-13 where he was up and down with the minors) and you gotta imagine he'll have a big hand in the Cup as well.
It is just something we in the Netherlands aren't used to. They don't even allow official number retirement in football in most leagues. Retiring numbers is a typical American thing, and the Rangers having retired only 2 numbers in 78 years were sort of the odd man out IMO.
I have no problem with retiring other numbers, as long as they are earned and not like Graves and Richter just shoehorned in because they won a Cup.
Even with the 52 goals and the Cup win, I don’t think Graves gets in without his off ice stuff. I get the debate on whether that should ever matter for jersey retirement, of course.
When his jersey retirement was announced, his off-ice contributions were specifically mentioned. Made me think they wouldn't without them. I think it was Leetch who announced it at his number retirement?Even with the 52 goals and the Cup win, I don’t think Graves gets in without his off ice stuff. I get the debate on whether that should ever matter for jersey retirement, of course.
When his jersey retirement was announced, his off-ice contributions were specifically mentioned. Made me think they wouldn't without them. I think it was Leetch who announced it at his number retirement?
Park is a Hall of Famer and along with Leetch one of the 2 best defensemen in the entire 90 something years team's history.
Graves going before Park took away the whole reason for retiring a player's jersey and changed it into a nonsensical honor. It was so he could be in the rafters with his buddies.
I think Kovalev was more important than Graves during the Cup run, so it can't be argued that it's because Graves won a Cup.