If your leading point player is the biggest disappointment then there is something wrong. Stepan is at a pace he was except for the lockout season. His P/G was .55 then .62, then the short season which is hard to judge and now he is at .67. but everyone else gets a free pass on here. Lundstinks has done nothing this year, lets in softy after softie. He gets outplayed by every teams goalies, starters, backups and third stringers. Has the worst Salary on the team besides Nash, so why does he still get all the love.
Who is the biggest disappointment?
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OverTheCap
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Nash for me - the disappearing acts, low engagement level, the recognition that he needs to get inside more but the inability to actually do so. Maybe the concussions have affected his play - but during his only hot streak in January, he was driving to the net with authority, so I do think he has it in him to play that way more often, although he may not want to or like to.
Stepan has been disappointing as well, but I think expectations got a little out of hand after his performance during the lockout-shortened season. I was never under the belief that Stepan would be a "legitimate first line 75-point center" after last year. That being said, he should be capable of putting up more than 55 points, and his decision-making needs to be better.
Team defense has also been huge disappointment, which is probably due to the system change more than anything.
Stepan has been disappointing as well, but I think expectations got a little out of hand after his performance during the lockout-shortened season. I was never under the belief that Stepan would be a "legitimate first line 75-point center" after last year. That being said, he should be capable of putting up more than 55 points, and his decision-making needs to be better.
Team defense has also been huge disappointment, which is probably due to the system change more than anything.
Fitzy
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Zuccarello has 15 goals. 15.
He's leading our team in points. Stepan isn't here to score a lot of goals, especially on the Nash line.
I get on the guy's case because he often has the puck bounce off his skate, but in terms of offensive + defensive ability, he is the best of our 3 centers. Richards and Brass don't touch his defensive ability.
Rick Nash. Someone in management needs to have a talk with him. Have a talk with his agent. He was bad in camp playing with Richards. Has anyone played well with Richards? The concussion in the 3rd or 4th game of the season didn't help. The Rangers traded two roster players,a top prospect and #1 pick for this. Stepan is close second. 1A. He missed all of camp. He reported to camp 4 days before the start of the season. Stepan has played better post Olympic break but he has been playing catch up since September.
You gotta somehow explain this. Usually the best offensive teams have a few guys near the top since when one scores another gets an assist.
The posters in the St Louis trade thread who guaranteed St Louis and Richards would have instant chemistry. Actually I'm more disappointed in myself for believing them, even though I feared otherwise.
JimmyG89
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Yet posters in the trade thread said their chemistry would be instant. Go figure.
Rick Nash. Guy has the talent to be an all-time great.
Unfortunately, he doesn't play like he wants to be.
Unfortunately, he doesn't play like he wants to be.
Close between Stepan and Nash, who I took. (surprise, surprise, all you guys who say I hate Stepan!)
Even allowing Nash some curve cause he was briefly concussed, for what his talent level is, we are expecting more.
Stepan, however, has no excuses whatsoever.
Even allowing Nash some curve cause he was briefly concussed, for what his talent level is, we are expecting more.
Stepan, however, has no excuses whatsoever.
I agree.
If the question is "Whose perfomance was weakest vs. their expectations" then I think it has to be Hank.
He has not been bad by any stretch, but he has not been anywhere near a top 5 goalie in the league this year.
Far too many nights the game ended and you said "Their goalie outplayed ours tonight". If people are all over Nash because he has not been great then I think you have to look at the goalie too.
Stepan has not been great, but that is not unexpected IMO. Solid two way center who is a 15-20 goal scorer. That is what he is always going to be.
I personally thought Staal was on his way back to being the dominant shut down D he once was around the 40 -50 game mark. He has fallen off over since the break. That is disappointing as well.
I have to say Nash AINEC. Stepan disappointed me greatly because I really thought we had our top line center, but at least he's still putting up points. I'm also surprised so few people picked Lundqvist. He's not terrible this season but it's the worst season of his career and compared to what were his top seasons the last 2 years, it's not even in the same universe.
This cracks me up.
Stepan is a 3 million dollar 23yr old who is leading a playoff team in scoring and hes one of the biggest disappointments. Embarrasing......
Nash is making 8.2 million this year
Richards is making 9 million this year
Lundquist is making 8 million this year.
To even have him in the same breath as any of those 3 is laughable....
And he is probably your most responsible defensive forward.
Good stuff guys....
Stepan is a 3 million dollar 23yr old who is leading a playoff team in scoring and hes one of the biggest disappointments. Embarrasing......
Nash is making 8.2 million this year
Richards is making 9 million this year
Lundquist is making 8 million this year.
To even have him in the same breath as any of those 3 is laughable....
And he is probably your most responsible defensive forward.
Good stuff guys....
sorry Hank is at 5.5 this year..... A bit better number but still been pretty inconsistent.
He's not a Goal Scorer. His assists per game .49 are close to the same as last year's .54.
He shot 16.7% compared to 7.9% this year. Resulting in the GPG drop.
My point is that he hasn't regressed as much as everyone seems to think he has. Let's also remember he's still 23. I don't know how he could be THE most disappointing on the team, with "stars" like Nash, Richards, and Lundqvist having down years.
Again, not sure if the poll was "Who is not earning their money" or "Who has perfomed weakest relative to expectations"> To me, that second question takes salary out of the equation and puts Stepan squarely in the conversation.
If we're looking at this based on salary then we probably didn't even need a poll to figure it out.
Without Lundqvist,the Rangers are battling the Islanders for last place. Richards is a waste of time and money. Sather should have amnestied him last June. Stepan had 44 points in 48 games last season. Pro-rated 75 point season. Stepan is back to his 2nd year play. Stepan is right behind Nash for biggest disappointment. The Rangers will need Stepan to take the next step if they are going to win anything.
Whiplash27
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Stepan is a playmaker first and foremost. You can't get many assists when you have only 1 player on the team with over 20 goals 70 games into the season.
Agreed.
Hands down though, it's been Nash.
I don't even have expectations for Richards anymore. STepan has been underwhelming, but fine and a lot of that is relative to Nash playing like garbage.
Chicken or the egg - it's also difficult to score 20 goals when your #1C playmaker doesn't provide enough assists.
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Went with DZ. I was holding out hope he'd turn back into a 40+ point guy who wasn't a liability in his own zone. Nash, Lundqvist, Callahan, Stepan, John Moore, Richards also disappointing in nor particular order. I can go on and say Asham, Powe, Dorsett, etc but I mean reasonable expectations weren't too high. Maybe Dorsett, I really think he's a huge liability compared to what I thought before the season.
Just remember that Talbot picked us up and won 8 of 9 when Lundquist was struggling early. He has definitely been good lately but you cant tell me that we are a last place team without him. Because if he wasnt here we would have a Halak, Miller type goalie that replaced him. Tough for me to hear this argument. Dissapointed for me is relative to what your paying somebody to what they produce.
Bluenote13
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Talbot gets exposed when he plays a few games in a row. Disappointment is based on expectations. Stepan did not build off last season. He took a step back.
