Michael Farkas
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Yeah, there's some names in this thread...Danault, Maruk, Linden...Grubauer, who I wouldn't trust to get me a glass of water...quite a list...
Who is the best example of "If he won a Cup he's in the HHOF" type of guy?
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regarding kesler, is/was breaks my heart.
he surely deserves better than this bitter end :/
MadArcand
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Had Bondra somehow dragged the Caps past Detroit, I'm sure he'd be in already long ago.
CapsCrazyX17
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Assuming Kolzig were to have won in 98 then he 100% also wins the Conn Smythe, which definitely helps his case.
If the Caps did win that year then Bondra is another player who has a stronger case. Poor guy, I don't know how many other 500 goal scorers aren't in the HoF.
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not including the lock to get in, only
522 -- Verbeek
538 -- Tkachuk
566 -- Marleau
Together they lead the league in goals less often than Bondra too (1 vs 2)
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Cujo is the best example. He should already be in the HoF with 5 top 5 vezina finishes (in an era of freaks) and 454 wins.
I really like the Vanbeisbrouck mention as well. It's kinda strange that both of his Cinderella playoff runs (86 with the Rangers and 96 with Florida) came to an end when he faced off against Roy ( w/ MTL in the 86 ECF and Colorado in the 96 SCF).
I really like the Vanbeisbrouck mention as well. It's kinda strange that both of his Cinderella playoff runs (86 with the Rangers and 96 with Florida) came to an end when he faced off against Roy ( w/ MTL in the 86 ECF and Colorado in the 96 SCF).
yada
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Goal might have been brian noonan, messier swept his stick at the puck. Messier was given credit but you cant legitimately tell me if messier got a piece of the puck or not.
Crosby2010
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By Messier's immediate reaction he thinks he did. Normally what happens is that the player will look right to the guy who shot the puck if he thinks he didn't tip it in. Since Messier didn't do this means he either is the most selfish player in the history of the NHL if he knowingly took credit for an eventual Cup winning goal.......................or that he actually got a piece of it, knows he got a piece of it, or thought he got a piece of it. I tend to think the latter here. I've always thought it looked like something extra jammed that puck in, and that something would be Messier's stick.
Other than that good names on this thread. Kolzig is an interesting case. 1998 would be his Smythe and I think getting past the mighty Red Wings helps, but we are still talking about a 1st, 5th and 10th finish for the Vezina. That's a pretty weak cupboard. Kolzig is Ryan Miller, as is Kipper. Where I think a Cup helps them a bit but doesn't put them over the top. Kesler and Linden aren't regardless, but surprisingly there are weaker names mentioned here.
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So he wins the Cup in 2012 with the Devils. Does he get in? If he wins he is in the running for the Smythe, with Brodeur. Depending on what he does in the Cup final though. Because he was awful in the Cup final, 1 point in 6 games. It is part of why they lost. Or does he belong regardless? 443 career goals? The guy scored a ton of goals in a short time.
DitchMarner
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His scoring races finishes (for goals and points) are very impressive, but it seems many on this board discredit him because he was a "bad team scorer" who received a ton of PP and overall ice time and didn't have defensive responsibilities. You do have to wonder how much a strong showing in the 2012 SCF and a Cup win would have enhanced his reputation and odds of making it into the HHOF.
