Who is the 24th best player so far in the 21st Century?

Who is the 24th best player so far in the 21st Century?


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Acallabeth

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Jul 30, 2011
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Like I said he was 20th in scoring this century and had a .95 PPG, Bergeron is 16th with a .80 PPG and I think the defensive game and his proficiency in the dot makes up the difference quite easily.

MSL is going to give you more offense in his peak/prime seasons for sure but he also drops off after 10 seasons while Bergeron still has a 16th strong season on the 21st century resume where he won a Selke.

Staying power matters well maybe not to the stat counting guys.
Once again people choose to ignore the much higher-scoring environment of the recent seasons.

There were as many 110-point scores in Bergeron's final year as 80-point scorers in St Louis final year. Of course it looks like MSL drops off more.
 

wetcoast

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Nov 20, 2018
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Once again people choose to ignore the much higher-scoring environment of the recent seasons.

There were as many 110-point scores in Bergeron's final year as 80-point scorers in St Louis final year. Of course it looks like MSL drops off more.
I was actually looking at them using adjusted scoring as well over the number of seasons.

Bergeron has 16 seasons with points from 55 (a selke year) to 79 points (3rd in Selke voting with 65 games played)

MSL has the way higher peak and prime adjusted with 5 100+ point seasons and 12 with 58 plus but Bergeron brings alot more in other aspects of the game while delivering some really good consistent scoring.
 

UED

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May 2, 2021
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Hossa is 13th in points while Toews is 35th but he has been added.

I also think that Zetterberg would be the better option to add than Toews.

As for the voting I'm leaning towards Bergeron and can't figure out a good reason to have MSL or Luongo over him, heck Hossa might be my second pick here frankly.

I also think that Andrei Vasilevskiy has probably done as much as Price but goalies are so hard to compare.
Don't care for Toews or Hossa but Hossa was a depth mercenary on the team that was built around Toews as the franchise player(although Keith was better but in the moment, defensemen aren't allowed to be as good as forwards). They were both on the same team and Toews was regarded as a top 5 player in the world and Hossa was nothing but a good player with a funny contract and former sob story. This actually happened.
 

Albatros

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Aug 19, 2017
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Toews winning three cups is all of his argument, whereas for Hossa the rings are just a bonus and he'd be ahead even without them.
 

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