Who is the 15th best player so far in the 21st Century?

[wetcoast]

15th in a series of 25 polls inspired by a recent ESPN poll.

so far this is the top 13

1.Crosby
3. Ovechkin
3. McDavid
4. Lidstrom
5. Malkin
6. Brodeur
7. Kucherov
8. Kane
9. Mackinnon
10. Pronger
11. Datsyuk
12. Chara
13. Karlsson
14. Thornton

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[Crow]

Keith should have been 10th or so. He was just generally an unbelievable playoff and international performer in addition to 2 norris, conn smythe, championships, gold medals.

 

[Jack Spider]

Price was the best player in the league for a stretch. At his peak he's in the top. Looked like a robot in net and had a large influence on the next generation of goalie. Couldn't say so on most of the guys voted in already, but I'll admit they had better careers.

 

[bobholly39]

Carey Price.

 

[Teemu]

I think I'll take the greatest defensive forward in the history of the sport

 

[amnesiac]

Lundqvist here, by far the best goalie.

Vezina voting: 1,2,3,3,3,4,5,6,6,6

Price was the best player in the league for a stretch. At his peak he's in the top. Looked like a robot in net and had a large influence on the next generation of goalie. Couldn't say so on most of the guys voted in already, but I'll admit they had better careers.

great career, but his numbers are on par with a guy like Pekka Rinne. If they switched teams Rinne would be the more popular goalie. Nothing against Carey, but hes naturally a little overrated in this city.

CP 1,3,4,5,7
PR 1,2,2,3,7

Lundqvist blows both out of the water.

 

[Felidae]

I'm a pretty big Karlsson fan. Most offensively talented defenseman since Coffey.

But I think he was added too early. Yes, incredibly high peak. But his career is noticeably shorter compared to many players not on the list. Add on to that his injury history and a 5 year dry spell of what should have still been his prime not competing for any awards.. I think his addition was quite premature.

I would have put Luongo and Lundqvist ahead of him.

 

[Jack Spider]

Lundqvist here, by far the best goalie.

Vezina voting: 1,2,3,3,3,4,5,6,6,6


great career, but his numbers are on par with a guy like Pekka Rinne. If they switched teams Rinne would be the more popular goalie. Nothing against Carey, but hes naturally a little overrated in this city.

CP 1,3,4,5,7
PR 1,2,2,3,7

Lundqvist blows both out of the water.

yep they are indeed.(rinne) similar size and stats. I won't change my statement.

 

[Three On Zero]

The King or 7 Teeth Keith

 

[HabzSauce]

Lundqvist here, by far the best goalie.

Vezina voting: 1,2,3,3,3,4,5,6,6,6


great career, but his numbers are on par with a guy like Pekka Rinne. If they switched teams Rinne would be the more popular goalie. Nothing against Carey, but hes naturally a little overrated in this city.

CP 1,3,4,5,7
PR 1,2,2,3,7

Lundqvist blows both out of the water.

Lundqvist vs Price is as close of a debate as you can get. Neither blow either out of the water. Both best in the biz by a mile despite no cups.

 

[Video Nasty]

Go Draisaitl, Go Draisaitl, Go.

 

[wetcoast]

Will post the next poll later today, if you haven't voted get on it.

 

[Hippasus]

Just talking about goalies here. I tend to give a premium to career value over peak in player rankings. Luongo was a total workhorse and had great save percentage over his career. Peak it's probably Price, Quick, Lundqvist, Vasilevskiy, in that order.

Overall, I'd rank the remaining goalies:

Luongo
Lundqvist
Price
Quick
Fleury
Vasilevskiy

 

[DitchMarner]

Just talking about goalies here. I tend to give a premium to career value over peak in player rankings. Luongo was a total workhorse and had great save percentage over his career. Peak it's probably Price, Quick, Lundqvist, Vasilevskiy, in that order.

Overall, I'd rank the remaining goalies:

Luongo
Lundqvist
Price
Quick
Fleury
Vasilevskiy

I'd probably take Vasi over Fleury for career already. I don't know... I'm not a big Fleury fan. To me he feels like an above average goalie with a likeable personality and a really long career and some team accomplishments. Vasilevskiy was definitely one of the best goalies in the League for a while; I'm not sure Fleury really was.

 

[Hippasus]

I'd probably take Vasi over Fleury for career already. I don't know... I'm not a big Fleury fan. To me he feels like an above average goalie with a likeable personality and a really long career and some team accomplishments. Vasilevskiy was definitely one of the best goalies in the League for a while; I'm not sure Fleury really was.

I agree Fleury is not an A-list goalie. He's a bit compiler-ish in regards to wins. However, his career value edges out Vasilevskiy as Fleury has about twice as many wins. Also, Fleury held the fort down in at least one Cup victory (2017 with the Penguins) and won the Vezina in his final year with the Golden Knights (20-21). He was arguably at least in the conversation for best goalie at those points.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I'm a pretty big Karlsson fan. Most offensively talented defenseman since Coffey.

But I think he was added too early. Yes, incredibly high peak. But his career is noticeably shorter compared to many players not on the list. Add on to that his injury history and a 5 year dry spell of what should have still been his prime not competing for any awards.. I think his addition was quite premature.

I would have put Luongo and Lundqvist ahead of him.

Karlsson is very far ahead of where he deserves to be listed.