I disagree that he is a second line talent. He had one good year, turned that into a massive contract that he couldn't live up to.
He will likely at best be a 3rd line forward and more than likely a 4th line forward making $5.5M.
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I disagree that he is a second line talent. He had one good year, turned that into a massive contract that he couldn't live up to.
He will likely at best be a 3rd line forward and more than likely a 4th line forward making $5.5M.
Have you been living in a cave these past two years? We have at least 10 forwards who would get better UFA offers than Clarkson would.
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As a long suffering Jackets fan, I am now convinced that the fantastic finish was for real and this team will go 67-12-1 next season so I say that we should keep Arty for his last year, buyout Boll & Bourque and re-sign Letestu, Calvert & Golo.
Buying out B&B saves 2.8 million in cash next year and $2 million in total over the next 4. That money could be used to sign Letestu to a 3 year deal at, say, 2,2.5, 3. Same type of deal for Calvert, maybe a bit higher. After next year Arty will be gone and replaced by an entry level contract.
I think the $ work and if they can produce for the next two to three years any added costs will be absorbed by extra ticket sales including playoff games.
Of course I am still in favor of trades that will improve the team but if we are going forward with guys currently signed this is how I'd do it.
Buying out B&B saves 2.8 million in cash next year and $2 million in total over the next 4. That money could be used to sign Letestu to a 3 year deal at, say, 2,2.5, 3. Same type of deal for Calvert, maybe a bit higher. After next year Arty will be gone and replaced by an entry level contract.
I think the $ work and if they can produce for the next two to three years any added costs will be absorbed by extra ticket sales including playoff games.
Of course I am still in favor of trades that will improve the team but if we are going forward with guys currently signed this is how I'd do it.
I would like to see Letestu, Anisimov, and Calvert back, but I'm not sure all will be. So:
Jenner-Johansen-Atkinson
Hartnell-Wennberg-Foligno
Dano-Dubinsky-Clarkson
Calvert-Anisimov-Borque
Morin/Boll
I'd gladly sub in Test Tube on that fourth line, but that would probably mean one of Calvert or Arty would be gone. Anyway, those lines look fairly well-balanced and dangerous, to me.
Defense is where I want to see additions, but I don't know who or how.
Jenner-Johansen-Atkinson
Hartnell-Wennberg-Foligno
Dano-Dubinsky-Clarkson
Calvert-Anisimov-Borque
Morin/Boll
I'd gladly sub in Test Tube on that fourth line, but that would probably mean one of Calvert or Arty would be gone. Anyway, those lines look fairly well-balanced and dangerous, to me.
Defense is where I want to see additions, but I don't know who or how.
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The fantastic finish has me very optimistic about our goal production going into next year, what with 4 goals per game in our streak, but for the team as a whole there should still be a lot of uncertainty. We weren't that dominating, winning a lot of those games by the skin of our teeth. If we go into next year with the same jurry-rigged defense, there shouldn't be any guarantees, except that there will be a lot of 5-4 games.
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I love Letestu's quotes in the Dispatch this morning. He wants to be back. Lets get him signed and make a trade to consolidate some players and go try to win the Cup.
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My worry is how we will look once guys like Clarkson come back. We are better without him/them. I REALLY wish we would have never made that trade. At least Horton wasn't playing over someone who is better than him. That is likely what Clarkson will be doing. He should be on our 4th line or an extra and I have a feeling he wont be either.
Also, we were barely winning, because we were playing good teams and our defense isn't great. Really, I would make very few changes to our forwards (if any).
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Has Anisimov ever started taking draws since his return to the lineup? Is that an arm strength thing? He has continued to skate the center position, but if he's not going to take draws, you need that extra center.
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I believe he wasn't taking draws because they didn't want to risk re-injury. Hopefully he will be fully recovered by next September.
I think thats a valid concern, the team had some really good chemistry going. But an offseason could change that, but it also gives Borque and Clarkson a chance to bond and try to form some chemistry over the offseason. Clarkson will be no worse than 4th line and i think Borque depending on his work ethic is a 4th line player as well or possibly a good extra skater.
Our forwards getting healthy really showed how much the defense relies on strong defensive play from the offense. The team is built damn near perfect, we just need a player like Atkinson, Murray to step and take a big leap over the summer for next season. If Atkinson sticks around Joey for an extended amount of time I expect for him to put up some big numbers. In Johansens interview in the other thread he says he really believes that Atkinson doesnt even know how good he really is and wants him to take that next step (hmmm, where did we hear that before?
)And well i think Murray just playing a full season is a huge step in the right direction for him, and healthy i expect him to put up around 40+ pts.
Just those two things happening and the team staying healthy would put CBJ as conference contenders. If Atkinson can gain that consistency and hopefully better chemistry with Joey and Foligno, well it could be scary.
I just don't see the room for him in the middle, and hes been a lot more noticable on the wing imo. Hes been seemingly more engaged. And him playing winger fills a need without trading any assets.
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Well, for one, Wennberg would not be moved off the line he was on at the end of this year. Two, Clarkson would be on the fourth line at best. I don't care what he makes. I'll try to think about this more today. I know it is tough because we likely won't have Anisimov and Clarkson will likely be playing, but I just can't do those 2.
That is my feeling too. I bet Clarkson starts off the year on the 2nd line (the team will give him an opportunity to succeed) but will end up on 3rd-4th line.
It's going to tie up a lot of resources and roster space with some of the heavy contracts on the 4th line. Now if we buy out a player or two (buying out Clarkson isn't a possibility) but at least that frees up roster space.
JD is having a teleconference Wednesday night with STH and the things I would like to hear: Do we plan on spending up to the cap next season, what is plan for back-up tender and most importantly what is the priority for the blue line. Again it's not likely they will clearly answer the 3rd question - but to me that is the key.
I'm sure there will be tweaking to the forwards (Arty or Cam could be moved in package for right d-man), but we do need help at top pairing guys (d-men), and I hope we invest a little in a backup quality tender (like we had this year).
That is my problem. We get off to slow starts and yet we will probably mess with what has worked just to have Clarkson up higher than he should be. I have alway looked at it this way. You are paying the entire team the same amount if Clarkson is on the 2nd line or the 4th line. So, don't worry about playing him higher just because he makes more. Play him where it is best for the team to win.
I've just never understood it. The Reds did it with Phillips. It doesn't change how much you have to pay. Once your payroll is set for the year, forget about what each player makes. Put the players in position to help the team the most. Not in a position to justify their pay.
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This afterseason TOP D market will be very expensive ( and problematic for small franchises) Boston needs TOP2 D, LAK needs too, we need. If Provorov in "play ready" condition would we draft Ivan and I hope Murray will be ok next season. If we win MacD we can trade him and get very very impressive and massive return, we can for ex get Vlasic like D and Co for him . I don't know how badly we need MacD if we have right now elite C Ryan, some super Cs and some uprising C like Alex and William?
If you get McDavid you keep McDavid. Not even just for hockey purposes but from a business side it never happens. its so much more then just a hockey trade
Cam Atkinson won't be sharing first line duties with Johansen for majority of the next season. Foligno has hard time gathering 70 points again. Jenner and Hartnell are the other guys who will be slotted for regular top-6 appearances.
Wennberg, Dano and other prospects could be anywhere six months from now on but if some of them are 'ready' they likely make Hartnell another strong top-9 name along with Dubinsky. Which is good position to be in but surely not to be counted on.
So Johansen, Jenner, Hartnell, Dubinsky and Foligno are where it currently stands in terms of top most importance. Throw in enough prospects, add your options with limited names like Anisimov and Atkinson and Clarkson's rugged skill set will be in high demand to be utilized once again. Whether he will only score 15 remains to be seen but likely Foligno, Atkinson, Hartnell and Clarkson will have their own little race.
I wouldn't either be too worried about similar start to the season than in previous seasons. Or at least later on expect to have again such a strong regular season campaign finish if it would this time around start out with fireworks.
If it ever comes to play-offs anybody working in Ohio media, attending or even being part of the team shouldn't start focusing the talk around the team on 'first ever play-off series victory'. Or it will be just that.
Wennberg, Dano and other prospects could be anywhere six months from now on but if some of them are 'ready' they likely make Hartnell another strong top-9 name along with Dubinsky. Which is good position to be in but surely not to be counted on.
So Johansen, Jenner, Hartnell, Dubinsky and Foligno are where it currently stands in terms of top most importance. Throw in enough prospects, add your options with limited names like Anisimov and Atkinson and Clarkson's rugged skill set will be in high demand to be utilized once again. Whether he will only score 15 remains to be seen but likely Foligno, Atkinson, Hartnell and Clarkson will have their own little race.
I wouldn't either be too worried about similar start to the season than in previous seasons. Or at least later on expect to have again such a strong regular season campaign finish if it would this time around start out with fireworks.
If it ever comes to play-offs anybody working in Ohio media, attending or even being part of the team shouldn't start focusing the talk around the team on 'first ever play-off series victory'. Or it will be just that.
Any consideration for Carter Camper?
I doubt it, even with the year he had and your injuries, he didn't get a call up.
I doubt it, even with the year he had and your injuries, he didn't get a call up.
