who is better between the Hutson

Mersss

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What does that have to do with my question?

Pretty sure Zellweger just put up 1 of the most impressive playoff ppgs over the last 30 years. And has a closet full of awards/gold medals.

My question was what does Hutson do better than zellweger? That was more or less a serious question... i dont dislike hutson... i think hes a great player and i wanted the ducks to take him (but honestly Luneau has worked out nicely).

Idk id comfortably say Zellweger is better shooter, hands, skater and defensively of the 2.
Better hands, vision and passer? No way
 
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If LHD is the BPA, you pick LHD. That's it.

Not with their 1st round pick (assuming its top 15).
There's 0 room for Cole, so why would they draft him?

LD:
Guhle
Hutson
Engstrom
Xhekaj
Harris

RD:
Reinbacher
Mailloux
Barron

These players all have top 4 potential and are all 23 or younger.

Lane Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux/Barron/Engstrom

is expected to be the habs top 4 for a long time.

If you're drafting Cole, then you will need to trade him, but if that's the case, then it would be better to just draft a forward with that pick instead.

Furthermore, the habs need more high-end forwards. So in terms of team building, drafting a potential top 6 forward is very important, and drafting a potential top 4 defenseman is extremely unimportant.
 
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Yea im all for BPA but Habs are set at def we need better offense
Doesn't matter. You always take the BPA. This draft seems loaded with defensive talent and if you have to trade a dman for forward help you do it then. Drafting for nees os always a mistake.
 
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Just shows people that don’t know what they‘re talking about are trying to throw their opinions out there, when they have no basis for it to stand on.
Still, he's not top 10 in 2022 redraft lol, not close

1. Cooley
2. Jiricek
3. Gauthier
4. Nemec
5. Wright
6. Slafkovsky
7. Kasper
8. McGroaty
9. Savoie
10. Korchinski
11. Mintyukov
12. Nazar
13. Geekie
14. Kemell
15..I got bored, you get the point

No argument over any of these
 
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Still, he's not top 10 in 2022 redraft lol, not close

1. Cooley
2. Jiricek
3. Gauthier
4. Nemec
5. Wright
6. Slafkovsky
7. Kasper
8. McGroaty
9. Savoie
10. Korchinski
11. Mintyukov
12. Nazar
13. Geekie
14. Kemell
15..I got bored, you get the point

No argument over any of these
No, I don’t get the point. I thought Hutson was the 9th best prospect at the time of his draft, and not much has changed in my opinion of him.

Arguing over redrafts just a year into a class is fools gold, and is only used to fuel egos of fanbases - so I won‘t partake in it. But if you’ve actually seen the kid play in college, or at the NTDP, you know how special this kid COULD be.
 
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No, I don’t get the point. I thought Hutson was the 9th best prospect at the time of his draft, and not much has changed in my opinion of him.

Arguing over redrafts just a year into a class is fools gold, and is only used to fuel egos of fanbases - so I won‘t partake in it. But if you’ve actually seen the kid play in college, or at the NTDP, you know how special this kid COULD be.
No offense, but you’re an hf rando. Where you had him ranked is meaningless and has nothing to do with where he’d go in a redraft. How about a little humility.
 
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While I’m sure any scout would say they judge players on their own merits and it will be by Cole’s own merits that he potentially gets selected significantly higher than Lane - let’s also not pretend Lane’s outrageously good transition to the NCAA won’t have helped his younger brother(s) at least overcome some of the surface level stigma against their physical size. I’d say Lane has certainly paved a path at least to the very highest level of collegiate hockey. And very likely beyond - although that last transition to the NHL remains the most difficult. It’s hard not to say Cole’s potential draft range isn’t going to benefit from Lane’s development.
Exactly. Lane Hutson's D+1 certainly makes his brother more desirable to NHL teams, especially given the fact they are both smallish Ds.
 

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Exactly. Lane Hutson's D+1 certainly makes his brother more desirable to NHL teams, especially given the fact they are both smallish Ds.
The Hutson seems like they keep growing late , like until 20 years old.
Usualy player are done growing in heigh when they are drafted.
But Lane growed 2 inchs allready from 5,8 to 5,10, might end up getting a other inch.

So Cole might be doing the same and end up being taller then expected.
 

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Still, he's not top 10 in 2022 redraft lol, not close

1. Cooley
2. Jiricek
3. Gauthier
4. Nemec
5. Wright
6. Slafkovsky
7. Kasper
8. McGroaty
9. Savoie
10. Korchinski
11. Mintyukov
12. Nazar
13. Geekie
14. Kemell
15..I got bored, you get the point

No argument over any of these
Having Wright over Slaf and McGroaty at #8 tells me a lot about your sense of hockey.

If Hutson is not in the top 10 he is pretty danm close, espacially at 5,10 now.
 

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What does that have to do with my question?

Pretty sure Zellweger just put up 1 of the most impressive playoff ppgs over the last 30 years. And has a closet full of awards/gold medals.

My question was what does Hutson do better than zellweger? That was more or less a serious question... i dont dislike hutson... i think hes a great player and i wanted the ducks to take him (but honestly Luneau has worked out nicely).

Idk id comfortably say Zellweger is better shooter, hands, skater and defensively of the 2.
In a redraft i would take Hutson 10 times at of 10 over Zell.
Lane's vision is something special, like Makar and Fox special.
His Hands are somehting you rarely see, the faint's that he makes are incradible.
Zell is nothing special, top 4 at best and on the 2nd PP.

Skating, Hands, Passes, Vision and offense, Hutson is wayy up there and much better there Zell.
I give the defense awareness and Shooting to Zell that's it.
 

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Still, he's not top 10 in 2022 redraft lol, not close

1. Cooley
2. Jiricek
3. Gauthier
4. Nemec
5. Wright
6. Slafkovsky
7. Kasper
8. McGroaty
9. Savoie
10. Korchinski
11. Mintyukov
12. Nazar
13. Geekie
14. Kemell
15..I got bored, you get the point

No argument over any of these

I stopped at 3rd position with Cutter Gauthier. Lane Hutson has produced the best NCAA U19 PPG for a defenseman since 1987 and Brian Leetch with no offensive star. In proportion to the number of goals scored in a game, probably the best performance in history. And in the puckless game, he is a master with his stick.

Top 10 currently, indisputably.

Last year, we were already saying that he had the level of a top 10 if we did not take into account the size. Since then he has released a crazy season and grown 5cm.
 
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Kudo Shinichi

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I stopped at 3rd position with Cutter Gauthier. Lane Hutson has produced the best NCAA U19 PPG for a defenseman since 1987 and Brian Leetch with no offensive star. In proportion to the number of goals scored in a game, probably the best performance in history. And in the puckless game, he is a master with his stick.

Top 10 currently, indisputably.

Last year, we were already saying that he had the level of a top 10 if we did not take into account the size. Since then he has released a crazy season and grown 5cm.

I wouldnt say top 10 indisputably.
He has an argument to be there. In an actual redraft today gms would probably go with safer players that still have a high ceiling (even if not as high as Hutson).
 

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I wouldnt say top 10 indisputably.
He has an argument to be there. In an actual redraft today gms would probably go with safer players that still have a high ceiling (even if not as high as Hutson).
Do you have 10 names of players who had a better season than Hutson last year?

Best PPG U19 NCAA Def since 1987 without a dominant offensive player. Not even Fox, Q.Hughes and Makar hit his mark in their U20 season.

Of course he is 3rd defender behind Jiricek and Nemec. And among the forwards, he doubles them all apart from Slafkovsky, Cooley and Wright.

So it's a solid 6th choice.

178cm with still room to reach 180cm - he entered the admissible standards.
 

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This is ridiculous. I watched both of these guys play live before they left for NTDP. Cole wasn't even considered a prospect his bantam major year considering how far he was behind Lane. Dad has always coached him and it wasn't until he started replicating Lane's moves that he had some success. Even then he wasn't considered that great by most in the "loop." I was honestly surprised to see how much success he has had at the NTDP but a good support group can go a long way it seems.

Lane is a true talent, dynamic and unique. Cole is just copying his brothers moves with robotic repetition.

Maybe he gets drafted higher but I am sure that he wont out do his brother in NCAA.

Soon you guys will be telling me the 2008 will be the best just like the Staal brothers theory 15 years ago?? He doesn't even want to play hockey and has been seen crying bc he is being forced but how many of you know this stuff? Daddy coaching and pushing the shit out of him meanwhile he has never even been the best D on his own team.
 

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I stopped at 3rd position with Cutter Gauthier. Lane Hutson has produced the best NCAA U19 PPG for a defenseman since 1987 and Brian Leetch with no offensive star. In proportion to the number of goals scored in a game, probably the best performance in history. And in the puckless game, he is a master with his stick.

Top 10 currently, indisputably.

Last year, we were already saying that he had the level of a top 10 if we did not take into account the size. Since then he has released a crazy season and grown 5c5cm.
Reading these forums you'd think the legendary season Lane just had never happened. People here seems to think he's been drafted as a pornstar and not a hockey player with how much the fools have been arguing over 2 inches.
 

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I already said Lane could end up having a better career but he's certainly not the better prospect right now especially considering their age. Lane had a good season but that wouldn't make him a top ten pick in a redraft. It's pretty obvious that scouts are higher on Cole than they were on Lane. That's not even a knock on Lane, just the simple truth. Like I said earlier, this thread is pointless.
A "good" season? Really? Best season since Brian Leetch is merely good? You can hate on the guy all you want but minimizing his achievements this year is dishonest.
 
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Reading these forums you'd think the legendary season Lane just had never happened. People here seems to think he's been drafted as a pornstar and not a hockey player with how much the fools have been arguing over 2 inches.
Well, most of these haters are angry because they're 2 inches.
 
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great answer , so for now until Cole have a full season in NCAA we won't be sure


lol your joking right ?


remake that 2022 draft and lane is in the top 10 as well. wtf

If you go to Lane Hutson's prospect thread - you'll see even before he got drafted I had him as a top 15 pick. With that being said - you as a Habs fan are only seeing this now that he's drafted. He's always been this good and been doing the stuff - concern was always around his size translating to the NHL level, not his skill. Most scouts knew he had the skill, the concern was whether it was worth a first round gamble with his size as a dman, especially when you see how teams are built that have been winning the cup the past few years.
 
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As of today it is Lane.

Every prospects trajectory is different. Cole was higher than Lane in years before the draft but the years following the draft Lane has had a real upward trajectory.

I’ll go with Lane now as he looks to be a future NHL defenceman who could run a power play.
 

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This is ridiculous. I watched both of these guys play live before they left for NTDP. Cole wasn't even considered a prospect his bantam major year considering how far he was behind Lane. Dad has always coached him and it wasn't until he started replicating Lane's moves that he had some success. Even then he wasn't considered that great by most in the "loop." I was honestly surprised to see how much success he has had at the NTDP but a good support group can go a long way it seems.

Lane is a true talent, dynamic and unique. Cole is just copying his brothers moves with robotic repetition.

Maybe he gets drafted higher but I am sure that he wont out do his brother in NCAA.

Soon you guys will be telling me the 2008 will be the best just like the Staal brothers theory 15 years ago?? He doesn't even want to play hockey and has been seen crying bc he is being forced but how many of you know this stuff? Daddy coaching and pushing the shit out of him meanwhile he has never even been the best D on his own team.
People act like Cole is some carbon copy of Lane because it's a convenient storyline, but Cole was nowhere near as good for most of his U17 season at the NTDP as Lane was for essentially his whole time at the NTDP. Cole has improved, and towards the end of his U17 season you could make a fair comparison between the two. Cole started doing some of the offensive things that Lane has done, but at the beginning Cole didn't have close to the same playmaking or skating as Lane. His point totals were very high because he played on the same PP as Hagens and Eiserman. He was the only player other than those two to always be on PP1.

And Cole absolutely wasn't on the level of Eiserman and Hagens. He's not even been better than the other U17 defensemen, Hensler and Skahan. He was promoted to the U18's when the others weren't late in the season because he fit the biggest need for an offensive defenseman, and the other two didn't. Same type of reason Brady Cleveland got promoted the year prior (team needed a big left-shot). Not to say Cole isn't going to be a lot better than Cleveland, but I agree that Lane is a different level from Cole on talent and performance so far through their U17 seasons.
 

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Quinn Hughes and Luke Hughes might not even end up being the best Quinn Hu- and L. Hu- in the NHL.
 

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