Who gets sent down when Edmundson is ready to play?
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BenchBrawl
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Anyone but Xhekaj or Slafkovsky. They're untouchable in my book.
A forward, so that we can have 7 D, which is safer.
Wideman or Kovacevic sit. If Xhekaj becomes #7, they should flip him to Laval against a vet to come up and sit.
Among the forwards, the first I would waive is Dadonov. He has lost two steps, does not bring much, and there seemed to be little interest around the league for him even when he was producing more. Furthermore, he has no history or chemistry with the club.
Other options?
Pezzetta could possibly be lost to Group 6 free agency this coming summer, if he does not play in 24 more games. Maybe we can move him in a minor trade and get a mid to late round pick, a waived player, or a guy who is waiver-exempt in return. But he may have value to the team as a spare part for now.
Hoffman has two years left, and at $4.5M won't be tradeable this year. There is some smallish chance he could get something next year with retention if he can somehow produce more. We could waive him and demote him on the off-chance that his offence returns and he comesà back up when someone gets hurt, then produces at a 3rd line level. If all that happens, then maybe there is hope for next year's TDL.
Drouin is not productive at all right now. but he has better chemistry with the team than Dadonov, and both are in the same contractual boat. However, he only gets to live on that one seeing eye pass with our goalie pulled for so long, so he might be the 13th or 14th F a lot.
Armia has not been back long enough to give up on, and he has 3 years left, thus untradeable until he produces. He merits a chance I would say.
So Dadonov for me. He is also the oldest forward we have.
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I'm not sure. But I'd waive Dadonov, Drouin, and Hoffman before Pez. Pez needs to cut down on the turnovers. If he can't do that, he's even more useless than the other three.
Hins77
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No I mean, every team have their borderline nhler grinder.
But, imo Dadonov should be the guy, he is the oldest and brings absolutely nothing
It's always a thing of keeping the organization respectable and bla bla, you rarely want to send NHL vets to the AHL... a bad look for future signings/negotiations...
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Very true.............but if a vet goes on waivers, and no one bites, that vet will realize it's the only option to continue to receive his $$$
It's a tough situation for the player, and the team...........we have a few vets that seemingly have no value. I am sure Hughes and the team would love to facilitate a trade for a pick, but.................
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Do you have an example? Are the Oilers seen as a bad organization for burying James Neal?
Yeah, I get that, but sitting out vets in the pressbox for an extended period is not much better.
It's one thing to waive Hoffman, who we signed to a 3 year deal, or Drouin whom we traded a future star to obtain and then signed to a big deal. Maybe other guys in the league may not want to come here as UFAs or if they have a NTC because of that. Maybe, maybe.
But Dadonov was a cap move, and he has no history with us, ties to the club, glorious memories, nothing. No one else wanted him for free, and he was dumped here by Vegas for a negative value. I don't see why other players would worry about what we do with him.
Can you find another example of vets buried lately apart Neal?
When you have McJesus on your roster you can get crazy somewhat...
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You're probably right, but I still think they'll try and make it work till the last minute...
Untouchable for trade or untouchable to be sent down. If it’s the latter, that’s strange.
While both have shown improvement, to say neither would benefit from some AHL time is absurd. Clearly you’re letting your emotions of wanting to see them play in nhl get in the way of recognizing what is best for their development. Zero patience….
BLONG7
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If the habs can build a sustainable winning team, vets who will become ufa's will want to come.............Winning cures all, and of course running your organization properly is huge.
You just can't have multiple vets in the lineup who don't produce, and are not trying their best. MSL knows a former player, who is dogging it.....
Sending Dadanov, Drouin, or any player for that matter to waivers, after trying everything else, is not a big deal to other players...
SOLR
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I'd rather Hughes keeps a real meritocracy going. "If we didn't sign you, you are not one of us, you need to perform or...."
Playing against the toughest competition in the world will always be best (in any sport) provided of course the athlete isn't overwhelmed and is getting reps.
I'm very happy with the progress of both players and I've got the impression management is as well. So NO. It would be counter-productive to move a player who is in obvious progression to a different work environment. They earned the right to make the team so they have to lose that right in order to be sent down. This is how you gain respect long term. These two guys are going to put fans asses in the seats at the Bell Center. So yeah go ahead and take away one of the main reasons for watching a game live. Makes Sense to me.
I waive Hoffman, rather, and send him down to the AHL, then flip him to the ECHL so he doesn't contaminate the Laval roster (is that even possible?).
I'd rather dangle Dadonov some more because he is on an expiring contract and, for a 7th round pick, maybe, a GM in dire need might bite at the deadline. Defensively, Dadonov is not a liability and, so far, on the PK, he has been quite useful,. actually.
Some figure Hoffman will be bought out in the upcoming offseason, but I'd keep him buried instead if we can't find a trade partner (for a bag of pucks and half the Cap hit - 2.25M) at that point.
We won't actually need the Cap room, I don't think, next year, so why add cap hit over an extra year? That's when Cap room might start being more useful, actually, with some interesting players becoming available on the UFA market (Dubois lover wet dream, myself included).
If the Alzner fiasco didn't sour everyone against coming to Montreal (signing a player as an UFA and burying them shortly after before buying them out), it's not waiving Dadonov, Hoffman or, even Drouin, that will.
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I know Philadelphia had interest in him a couple of seasons ago. Not sure about now though.
I just didn't think Dadonov was that bad... They made him kill penalties for the first time in his career and I saw him skating hard and trying...
They got DLO lol
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