Who do you prefer at the deadline, if the the Ranger trade for another rental?

[Taluss]

Why is Bo winning this poll.

Don’t get me wrong I’d love him here. But what’s the lineup when you slot him in and how tf are you affording the extension? Cuz if We are beating everyone else out to get him your damn sure we better sign him at the price it will take to get him

 

[UnSandvich]

IF we're renting someone, i'd do Boeser for like a 3rd then flip him in the offseason

EDIT: Scratch that, he has 2 additional years, i thought it was only 1

 

[cwede]

Hagg? Pylon.
I'd prefer Hajek

 

[CasusBelli]

Chychrun could be an interesting play. I was at the Coyotes game Sunday and he played really well. The Coyotes aren't ever going to get two firsts and a prospect for him but a 24 first, a 23 second and a player (maybe Matt Robertson or even Zac Jones) for Chychrun at 50% could be the starting point for a deal. Radio silence from my few remaining Coyote peeps.

Not often you come across fair valuations. Props.

Chychrun could be an interesting play. I was at the Coyotes game Sunday and he played really well. The Coyotes aren't ever going to get two firsts and a prospect for him but a 24 first, a 23 second and a player (maybe Matt Robertson or even Zac Jones) for Chychrun at 50% could be the starting point for a deal. Radio silence from my few remaining Coyote peeps.

Not often you come across fair valuations. Props

 

[The Crypto Guy]

We really need another top 9 forward. I guess we can just not trade assests and play Kravtsov.

 

[n8]

We really need another top 9 forward. I guess we can just not trade assests and play Kravtsov.

sadly an asset management issue now. Like we lose him for nothing over the summer or IF IF IF he can actually play and do well down the stretch/playoffs then I could see some sort of mutual resigning. I think the biggest risk with that is I don't see our coaching staff actually playing him. It's taken them so long to get Kakko and Laf ice time and let's not even talk about the PP.

But I do agree with you about need a top 9 forward. Goodrow in the top 9 is not great news but I'd like to see deals with longer term value. Feeling burnt by Sammy Blais. Chychrun could have legs but the cap could get dicey resigning RFAs. Yeah, our cap is so messed up. Also not a forward.

 

[NikC]

That makes two of us.....mainly because it will mean that at least one of the kids will be gone.

The idea behind this thinking that the NYR are going to give up the 1/2 OA for a few months of a rental is
too stupid to dignify with a response. This is Larry Brooks' floating this asinine BS.

If anything... its going to 1st rd picks.... or at worse Kravstov, which would be a disaster as well.

Id rather see a hockey trade than a rental, but if it has to be... it better be picks.

 

[mas0764]

No interest in giving up a first this year.

 

[JMan74]

Great article which makes a strong case for Timo as maybe our best potential option and fit for this team. He supplements our weakness of overpassing quite well and is a good 5v5 guy. Would love to add this kid to the mix. Think he is a near perfect fit.

Also a pretty well stated case AGAINST Kane

3 Potential NY Rangers trade targets that aren’t Patrick Kane

With Ryan Carpenter clearing waivers and assigned to Hartford, the Rangers cleared another cap hurdle for the trade deadline. They now have a projected $7.1 mil

blueseatblogs.com

 

[Boris Zubov]

Great article which makes a strong case for Timo as maybe our best potential option and fit for this team. He supplements our weakness of overpassing quite well and is a good 5v5 guy. Would love to add this kid to the mix. Think he is a near perfect fit.

Also a pretty well stated case AGAINST Kane

3 Potential NY Rangers trade targets that aren’t Patrick Kane

With Ryan Carpenter clearing waivers and assigned to Hartford, the Rangers cleared another cap hurdle for the trade deadline. They now have a projected $7.1 mil

blueseatblogs.com

Why are we buying rentals? Is the goal to make it to the 2nd round?

Furthermore, any of those names mentioned in that article are going to require a 1st rounder plus going back the other way. Not to mention none of them will be resigned when the season ends, because we can barely afford to resign our own free agents. This would be a catastrophic waste of resources.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

When I first responded, there were only 4 names.....where did the others come from?

Looking at new list, the only players I might take a gander at would be Domi.....but not as a rental.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Great article which makes a strong case for Timo as maybe our best potential option and fit for this team. He supplements our weakness of overpassing quite well and is a good 5v5 guy. Would love to add this kid to the mix. Think he is a near perfect fit.

Also a pretty well stated case AGAINST Kane

3 Potential NY Rangers trade targets that aren’t Patrick Kane

With Ryan Carpenter clearing waivers and assigned to Hartford, the Rangers cleared another cap hurdle for the trade deadline. They now have a projected $7.1 mil

blueseatblogs.com

Rangers would coach the "shoot first" attitude out of him within 3 games.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

They could really use another defenseman.

 

[Hire Sather]

No rentals please.

Rangers will get rentals at every deadline if they are contenders.

It's how they've done it the last 15 years, it's not going to change.

 

[egelband]

Why is Bo winning this poll.

Don’t get me wrong I’d love him here. But what’s the lineup when you slot him in and how tf are you affording the extension? Cuz if We are beating everyone else out to get him your damn sure we better sign him at the price it will take to get him

Horvat is in the lead because he’s available right now and most people voting in this poll want a new toy right now.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

Spending anything more than a 3rd or higher pick is a waste. Get a veteran LD, maybe a 4th line/PK option after Goodrow blocks 10 shots in a row.

This team may be on a short winning streak but we just slapped some make up on this pig. The coaching decision and system flaws are still there and I'm not convinced the mental laziness doesn't creep back into their game.

This team will only grow into a contender when kaako, chytil, laf, Miller, Schneider are thrusted and trusted as that 1B option after Ziba, Bread, Fox. Otherwise we keep kicking this can down the road and the kids will never be allowed to take the next step.

 

[CasusBelli]

Great article which makes a strong case for Timo as maybe our best potential option and fit for this team. He supplements our weakness of overpassing quite well and is a good 5v5 guy. Would love to add this kid to the mix. Think he is a near perfect fit.

Also a pretty well stated case AGAINST Kane

3 Potential NY Rangers trade targets that aren’t Patrick Kane

With Ryan Carpenter clearing waivers and assigned to Hartford, the Rangers cleared another cap hurdle for the trade deadline. They now have a projected $7.1 mil

blueseatblogs.com

I’d take Timo and offload Panarin in a heartbeat as a long-term transition and cap adjustment. Whether that’s feasible, however, is a very different story. No way in hell Sharks would take that — but a man can dream.

 

[Quinnisinoverhishead]

No rentals please.

There will be more likes on this post than people voting on this thread.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

If we were a legit top team in the East i would say OK to Kane, but getting Kane does not put us anywhere near over the top for the Cup. It would be absolutely dumb to trade for him as a bubble team.

 

[Machinehead]

Why is Bo winning this poll.

Don’t get me wrong I’d love him here. But what’s the lineup when you slot him in and how tf are you affording the extension? Cuz if We are beating everyone else out to get him your damn sure we better sign him at the price it will take to get him

He's the only good player in the poll.

 

[SA16]

Great article which makes a strong case for Timo as maybe our best potential option and fit for this team. He supplements our weakness of overpassing quite well and is a good 5v5 guy. Would love to add this kid to the mix. Think he is a near perfect fit.

Also a pretty well stated case AGAINST Kane

3 Potential NY Rangers trade targets that aren’t Patrick Kane

With Ryan Carpenter clearing waivers and assigned to Hartford, the Rangers cleared another cap hurdle for the trade deadline. They now have a projected $7.1 mil

blueseatblogs.com

This is a pretty bad case against Kane. It's clearly an article written with an agenda.

"Another thing to consider is what the Rangers actually need. They need shooters. There’s a reason why Frank Vatrano worked so well last season, and it’s because he shot the puck. Kane doesn’t shoot. He’s a passer, especially at this point in his career."

Not true. Kane has been an above average volume shooter every year of his career since his rookie year. He has the highest 5v5 shot rate of anyone on Chicago this year. He was second last year to DeBrincat.

" The above is his even strength production, along with his 3-5-8 in 26 games at 5v5. So to say that Kane doesn’t produce at even strength isn’t hyperbole, it’s proven."

Also not true. He mostly showed his possession/play driving numbers. Kane's 5v5 production is good. 2.26 pts/60 two years ago. 2.27 last year. This year's has been bad. Not a surprise. He's shooting 3.4% and his team is 6.47% (partially due to luck partially due to his linemates being very poor offensive players).

"He doesn’t do anything that drives play on the ice, which means he’d be more of a passenger, carried by linemates."

This one is somewhat true. Kane is a poor possession player. However, that's nothing particularly new with him. He's had a CF% under 50 5 years in a row. He's had an xG% under 50 8 years in a row. He often gets outshot/outchanced. This is not altogether uncommon for guys who are great snipers or playmakers that cause their team to score more than expected when on the ice.

For what it's worth, I don't think Kane is a good fit. We don't need him on the PP. He costs a lot. I'd rather spend the assets to fix multiple issues. I just think this article in particular is pretty terrible.

 

[bigdog16]

Do nothing, if anything we should be sellers, sell the farm and rebuild. Play the kids and start from scratch. We need to sell whoever we can just to get Laf and Kakko on PP1 and they will become superstars.

...is what the stat heads are saying on twitter

 

[Vitto79]

A guy like Kulikov will cost like a 6th so sure for depth

Gavrikov would be a lot more but go for it only if safely in a playoff spot

Same W Kane or Tarasenko . Need a RW

One of the 1sts , later picks , Kravtsov, Jones on the table

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

So funny this thread pops up because I was just reading about potential trade targets on the Athetic.

The way I see it:

Right now I wouldnt make a trade for trades sake. This is going to be an epic draft and the 2 first rounders the Rangers select (and possibly the 2nd rounder) could be very intstrumental for the future given this teams trajectory.

However, if the Rangers hit their stride they have enough talent (and the goalie) to make some noise in the dance. We all know that if they are close Drury/Dolan/Slats will be making a deal, regardless of what we think.

The top priority for me is filling that 3LD spot. You arent walking into the playoffs against what will now be a top seeded team with Libor Hajek back there. You may even need two vet defenseman for insurance, since no one is really pushing from Hartford other than Jones. After that adding a nice complimentary forward would be good. But all of this depends on price.

I'm not one for going all in on Kane. Whether he puts them over the top or not (i think not) I think he'll want to be resigned here and it will be certain he will cost a ton. I'd rather live with one of the kids up there getting more experience. I also really want to hold onto those two firsts.

But lets be realistic about one thing first:

Lets say the Rangers win 2 of the next 3. They will still need to go about 10 games over .500 to approach 99-100 points, which is likely going to be the cutoff. Its a bit of fools gold right now since they've played more games than a few teams below them for the Wild Card. The shitty start and losing all of those leads really killed them.

I'm not saying they will miss, but they have one of the toughest schedules in the NHL remaining. They continue to juggle lines on a nightly basis, their captain is having a horrendous season and unless their PP gets hot and stays that way in 2 months we may be talking about lottery odds and being sellers. The next 3-4 weeks will go a long way in determining that.

Let's hope for the Rangers sake they are absolutely convinced one way or another if being buyers is the way to go. Because if they are on the bubble, make a deal and miss - that will set them back when they really should still be thinking about building in the right way, considering the roster holes and cap issues upon them.

 

[bobbop]

Bob...

Any thoughts on Gostibehere as a rental if cheap enough ? He seems to be trending for a decent offensive season ? How bad/good is his defense and what are his passing skills like and foot speed...I have not watched him for a few years . I think we need a Dman more than a high end forward . In fact...I would take two Dmen if we got them cheap enough if we plan on diving into the rental pool .....which they will do as we all know.

I don’t think he can play playoff level defense. Offense definitely.