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Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XVI

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What about something like Carlo and Lysell to the Sabers for Jack Quinn and Jokiharju?

My thinking is Buffalo is close so it’s likely not on Carlo’s NTC. They need a defensive RHD to pair with Dahlin/Power/Byram

Quinn has battled some injuries but he’s a 8th overall pick stuck on the 3rd line. He’s got the talent if he can put it all together and I don’t think he’s going to get much more rope over there as more young guys are passing him by
 
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The Storm said:
They should move Carlo, he can easily be replaced. Defensive D-men are not hard to find. The Offensive D-men are harder to get.

If Carlo gets you a 1st round pick? DO IT!
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Right handed defensive defenseman that effectively play top line minutes are super hard to find.
 
Kegs said:
Right handed defensive defenseman that effectively play top line minutes are super hard to find.
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Indeed they are. Sure wish Carlo had a little "nasty" in him. He is big, but with limited offensive skills and the Bruins cannot score.

You might be right, pretty slim pickings in Free Agency. But I would not mind him being part of a package deal somehow? The Bruins are done, especially if Charlie is not healthy.
 
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Carlo is 28 RD with 2 years left on his contact after this year at 4.1 mil cap hit. He is not being paid to be an offensive defenseman. Who are the Bruins going to have or get to play his minutes as effectively at his cap hit going forward if they trade him? Even assuming Carlo is having an off year, I don't see how trading Carlo is part of the answer when it weakens the Bruins defense; the return would have to be a significant overpayment for Boston to even consider it. I would much rather trade Coyle than Carlo. A good RD is much more difficult to replace. Any replacement for Carlo the cap hit will be much higher.
 
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PlayMakers said:
Hmmm, with McAvoy out for “weeks” I wonder if they will try to pull a Vegas and add $9.5m in additional salary.

The Bruins could suddenly be the only buyer in the league that can take on a big contract without sending any money back.
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How do you pay for that?

And by pay, I mean what assets have you got to pay for it if it doesn't include roster players?
 
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Carlo is 28 RD with 2 years left on his contact after this year at 4.1 mil cap hit. He is not being paid to be an offensive defenseman. Who are the Bruins going to have or get to play his minutes as effectively at his cap hit going forward if they trade him? Even assuming Carlo is having an off year, I don't see how trading Carlo is part of the answer when it weakens the Bruins defense; the return would have to be a significant overpayment for Boston to even consider it. I would much rather trade Coyle than Carlo. A good RD is much more difficult to replace. Any replacement for Carlo the cap hit will be much higher.
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But he sucks and is probably the one player most to blame for this season being a disaster.
 
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JAD said:
Carlo is 28 RD with 2 years left on his contact after this year at 4.1 mil cap hit. He is not being paid to be an offensive defenseman. Who are the Bruins going to have or get to play his minutes as effectively at his cap hit going forward if they trade him? Even assuming Carlo is having an off year, I don't see how trading Carlo is part of the answer when it weakens the Bruins defense; the return would have to be a significant overpayment for Boston to even consider it. I would much rather trade Coyle than Carlo. A good RD is much more difficult to replace. Any replacement for Carlo the cap hit will be much higher.
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I think the idea is, this team is not wining a cup so you sell the players that can get you something. Trade Carlo for an asset or assets whether it's picks or prospects or a combo, use Callahan and other AHL players for the rest of the season and then sign a replacement in July. This seems to apply to trading Coyle as well. You get to shuffle the deck on the mix of players by moving a few core-adjacent guys out and bringing in different players for those roles, and get assets along the way.
 
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PlayMakers said:
Hmmm, with McAvoy out for “weeks” I wonder if they will try to pull a Vegas and add $9.5m in additional salary.

The Bruins could suddenly be the only buyer in the league that can take on a big contract without sending any money back.
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Without McAvoy they aren't making the playoffs anyway, so no reason to buy. And what do you do with a huge salary next year?
 
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I see a lot of "trade this guy", "trade that guy", "sell now".

I am most certainly a "sell" guy -- in terms of now is the time to rebuild for the future, not the now. However, I don't believe this team is in teardown mode and I hope the "future" is just around the corner.

Regardless, Boston needs to make smart moves, not kneejerk "this guy has value let's trade him" moves. Boston has to be strategic. Not an exhaustive list but the type of considerations I think they have to make:

Freddie - either sign or trade at deadline. Absolute no brainer. Letting him walk for nothing would be a fireable offense.

Carlo - don't underestimate the value of a RH defensive defenseman. Some people here think he's so bad it's addition by subtraction. I think that's nonsense. He'll generate real return, so see what you can get and if it's a bigger more needed add than what you lose, then do it. If not, don't do anything. Trade him for the sake of trading him???? Come on people.

Coyle -- see Carlo in terms of trade him if what you get is better long term. He doesn't have same value as Carlo (position mainly) but, again, this addition by subtraction is nonsense. Out of necessity, he's playing in the wrong spot in the lineup -- as are several Bruins players.

Marchy -- IF he's interested move him and then re sign over summer. If not, leave it. Don't be that team that treats warriors like shit. He's earned the right to have a say in whether he's shipped out or not.
 
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PlayMakers said:
Hmmm, with McAvoy out for “weeks” I wonder if they will try to pull a Vegas and add $9.5m in additional salary.

The Bruins could suddenly be the only buyer in the league that can take on a big contract without sending any money back.
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It depends how long McAvoy is out for, but it doesn't seem like he's out for the rest of the season. If he was, I wouldn't expect the Bruins do be buyers (I don't see* them as buyers regardless), but they could be facilitators for other trades to accrue assets. They still have two buyouts right?
 
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