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Proposal: Who do we move Morgan Rielly for?

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Reilly has been far from horrible like some are making him out to be. Sorry to say but we do not have anyone coming up (not even Sandin) or in the existing lineup that can replace Reilly. It would be utterly stupid for the Leafs to deal him, and its double stupid for fans to want to run him out of town.

Reilly is a top 10 dman in the league and as a Leaf organization you dont touch the Reilly-Brodie tandem for the foreseeable future.
 
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Rielly is nowhere near a top 10 dman in NHL .. he is close to a top 10 offensive points dman in NHL .. but most offensive points dman are not in top 10 overall best dmen in NHL ..

What is more important is he is still young and he has a skill set we don't have in system -- speed on backend .. Sandin is not an NHL skater yet (technical issue with his stride) although appears to have great hockey IQ .. Lily is still way too inexperienced .. BUT we may have a CAP issue if Rielly wants more than 5M per .. at 5.5M per or over then we have to trade him away for affordability on CAP this summer .. it is a tough one but mostly a CAP issue
 
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It would be a good time to trade Rielly, allow Brodie to instill good defensive habits on Sandin the sooner the better. If you get back a defensemen that can play good, or use the package you get( add or substract) another D asset that can play top 4. Looking at his metrics, what's he worth 7.5 easy? Asking maybe 8-8.5 long term. You won't be able to afford him if you want to keep Hyman in a cap that isn't going up. Great player but you want him to stay if sub 6M, alright buddies, alright.
 
JT AM da real deal said:
Rielly is nowhere near a top 10 dman in NHL .. he is close to a top 10 offensive points dman in NHL .. but most offensive points dman are not in top 10 overall best dmen in NHL ..

What is more important is he is still young and he has a skill set we don't have in system -- speed on backend .. Sandin is not an NHL skater yet (technical issue with his stride) although appears to have great hockey IQ .. Lily is still way too inexperienced .. BUT we may have a CAP issue if Rielly wants more than 5M per .. at 5.5M per or over then we have to trade him away for affordability on CAP this summer .. it is a tough one but mostly a CAP issue
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We can afford to pay Rielly what he is worth, and that is going to be north of 6 mill. Probably not more than 6.5 mill though. We have the cap to do that if that is what it takes.

Give him Kessel's dead money.
 
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IMO you move him to a team who may be up against the cap and needs help from the back end.
I think Edmonton makes a ton of sense.
  • I dont know how many more years McJesus is gonna be ok with being the most dominant forward in hockey and being on a bad team
  • They need a good offensive defense man who isnt a complete liability (Barrie), and preferably someone affordable.
  • They have a few assets that they can give up that would be a worth a legit top pair guy who can help QB the PP.

Edmonton gets Rielly + Brooks + Hallander
Leafs get Puljujarvi (looked really good defensively, and showed he is a mid 6 winger) and one of Broberg or Bouchard.

  • Leafs save money in the short term, but give up by far the most valuable piece as of today.
  • Im assuming Dermott is the person gone in the expansino draft, but if its Kerfoot Hallander may be more important depth wise. So he can be replaced by a similar valued guy (recent mid-second prospect)
 
TML1967 said:
IMO you move him to a team who may be up against the cap and needs help from the back end.
I think Edmonton makes a ton of sense.
  • I dont know how many more years McJesus is gonna be ok with being the most dominant forward in hockey and being on a bad team
  • They need a good offensive defense man who isnt a complete liability (Barrie), and preferably someone affordable.
  • They have a few assets that they can give up that would be a worth a legit top pair guy who can help QB the PP.

Edmonton gets Rielly + Brooks + Hallander
Leafs get Puljujarvi (looked really good defensively, and showed he is a mid 6 winger) and one of Broberg or Bouchard.

  • Leafs save money in the short term, but give up by far the most valuable piece as of today.
  • Im assuming Dermott is the person gone in the expansino draft, but if its Kerfoot Hallander may be more important depth wise. So he can be replaced by a similar valued guy (recent mid-second prospect)
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Chiapet got fired...so I doubt Holland would do this.
 
JT AM da real deal said:
Rielly is nowhere near a top 10 dman in NHL .. he is close to a top 10 offensive points dman in NHL .. but most offensive points dman are not in top 10 overall best dmen in NHL ..

What is more important is he is still young and he has a skill set we don't have in system -- speed on backend .. Sandin is not an NHL skater yet (technical issue with his stride) although appears to have great hockey IQ .. Lily is still way too inexperienced .. BUT we may have a CAP issue if Rielly wants more than 5M per .. at 5.5M per or over then we have to trade him away for affordability on CAP this summer .. it is a tough one but mostly a CAP issue
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Jesus, you're not getting Rielly at 5 per nor should he accept that. No way Brodie or Muzz should be making more than him. We have lots of time to find the money to pay him.

Maybe we can get Hyman to take 2-3 per and take one for the team eh?
 
TML1967 said:
IMO you move him to a team who may be up against the cap and needs help from the back end.
I think Edmonton makes a ton of sense.
  • I dont know how many more years McJesus is gonna be ok with being the most dominant forward in hockey and being on a bad team
  • They need a good offensive defense man who isnt a complete liability (Barrie), and preferably someone affordable.
  • They have a few assets that they can give up that would be a worth a legit top pair guy who can help QB the PP.

Edmonton gets Rielly + Brooks + Hallander
Leafs get Puljujarvi (looked really good defensively, and showed he is a mid 6 winger) and one of Broberg or Bouchard.

  • Leafs save money in the short term, but give up by far the most valuable piece as of today.
  • Im assuming Dermott is the person gone in the expansino draft, but if its Kerfoot Hallander may be more important depth wise. So he can be replaced by a similar valued guy (recent mid-second prospect)
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We're talking about the same Pool party that plays for the Oilers right?
 
The Apologist said:
Jesus, you're not getting Rielly at 5 per nor should he accept that. No way Brodie or Muzz should be making more than him. We have lots of time to find the money to pay him.

Maybe we can get Hyman to take 2-3 per and take one for the team eh?
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Muzzy and Brodie are both far better and more complete defenders .. da cream rises to da top in big games and Muzzy showed everyone why he is a Cup winner .. Rielly would be getting overpaid significantly if he makes more than Muzzy
 
ToneDog said:
If CBJ would do Marner for Jones, I would look to move Rielly, otherwise Rielly stays.
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Unless Jones makes fundamental changes to how he approaches his defensive assignments, which would mean overhauling his skating, he's gonna be one of those guys that are talked up as being good but who are actually hemorrhaging shots against for 20+ minutes every night.

If you don't believe me, maybe listen to a familiar name in Jack Han, who covered his play last year
 
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Get rid of Rielly. He can't defend, he's like a forward playing D. This guy always ends up in the opposing teams corner somehow and leads to a 2 on 1 against. We have enough forwards, use his cap space to get a defenceman who actually plays defense.

If we could trade him and sign Jones straight up for the same price, it's a no brainer.
 
Divine said:
Get rid of Rielly. He can't defend, he's like a forward playing D. This guy always ends up in the opposing teams corner somehow and leads to a 2 on 1 against. We have enough forwards, use his cap space to get a defenceman who actually plays defense.

If we could trade him and sign Jones straight up for the same price, it's a no brainer.
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How about no , rielly played great in the playoffs and Is a leader
 
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