Who are your 5th -10th best players ever?

[Beliveau]

Who are your 5th-10th best players ever? Wayne Gretzky, Gordie Howe, Bobby Orr, & Mario Lemieux are ineligible. I'll take in no order:

Sidney Crosby, Patrick Roy, Ray Bourque, Dominik Hasek, Nicklas Lidstrom, Jaromir Jagr @Dr Pepper

 

[AvroArrow]

5) Crosby
6) Jagr
7) Lidstrom
8) Ovechkin
9) McDavid
10) Messier



McDavid may not have the Cup like the others, but it's not most accomplished. These are the best IMO.

EDIT: I forgot about Hasek lol

 

[Dr Pepper]

In no particular order:

Crosby
Ovechkin
Hasek
Jagr
Lidstrom
Roy

 

[landy]

5. Crosby/Jagr
6. Jagr/Crosby
7. Lidstrom
8. Ovechkin
9. Messier
10. Flip a coin with Sakic and Yzerman

I think McDavid is close and Mackinnon, Kucherov not far behind. When McDavid gets a Cup, he skyrockets up the list. Mac and Kuch just need more years and inevitable points/hardware. Makar also I think will be on the list with a couple more Norris's. The points are coming quick too.

Goalies I think deserve their own list.

When its all said and done

1. Wayne
2. Mario
3. Orr
4. Howe
5. McDavid
6. Jagr or Crosby
7. Crosby or Jagr
8. Makar
9. Ovechkin or MacKinnon
10. MacKinnon or Ovechkin

 

[The Nuge]

Probably McDavid, Roy, Lidstrom, Ovi, Jagr and Crosby. McDavid has already made it the big 5 imo, and then there’s about 10 guys who could easily go 6-10

 

[Hippasus]

Morenz
Shore
Jagr
Hasek
Richard

EDIT: Crosby/Beliveau for the tenth spot.

 

[The Shadow]

Messier was such a POS and would never be anywhere near my top guys list.

He wouldn’t last a season in the league now with how he played. He injured a lot of guys with cheap shots and these blatant attempts to hurt guys. Modano is one of many examples

I respect a guy like Sakic 100 times more who respected his opponents than I ever would messier.

 

[hamzarocks]

5. Mcdavid
6. Hasek
7. Crosby
8. Bobby Hull
9. Jagr
10. OV

 

[NVious]

5.Hasek
6.Crosby
7.McDavid
8.Jagr
9.Lidstrom
10.Ovechkin

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Messier belongs nowhere near top 10

 

[psycat]

Bourque, Jagr, McDavid(you said best not most accomplished), Bobby Hull, Hasek(if goalies count).

 

[LuckyDay]

1. Wayne
2. Orr
3. Mario
4. Howe
5. Cyclone Taylor
6. Bossy
7. Jagr
8. Plante
9. Mikita
10. Richard
11. Morenz
12. Harvey

 

[GrumpyKoala]

Wayne
Orr
Howe
Lemieux
McDavid

Richard
Bossy
Messier
Roy
Ovi

 

[GrumpyKoala]

Messier was such a POS and would never be anywhere near my top guys list.

I can understand but I thought the goal of the game was to win.
And yes, he was one of the very best at it.

 

[Video Nasty]

In order:

5. McDavid
6. Hasek
7. Jagr
8. Crosby
9. Roy
10. Bourque

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

In some order:

Crosby
Hasek
Lidstrom
Bourque
Jagr
Sakic probably

 

[Randyne]

Ovechkin
Tretiak/Jagr/McDavid/Datsyuk

 

[habdynasty]

The older generation has been forgotten, I guess in 50-60 years No one will remember any of today’s stars either.

 

[landy]

The older generation has been forgotten, I guess in 50-60 years No one will remember any of today’s stars either.

They also played against 5 teams. But yes, so many people putting McDavid ahead of guys being key players winning 5+ Cups is wild. Shows how we only see todays players as relevant.

 

[Video Nasty]

They also played against 5 teams. But yes, so many people putting McDavid ahead of guys being key players winning 5+ Cups is wild. Shows how we only see todays players as relevant.

That’s what happens when a player like McDavid comes in and within just eight seasons, made sure he only trailed Gretzky, Lemieux, and Howe in individual hardware like the Hart, Lindsay (Pearson), and Art Ross, and through ten seasons, frequently has the tag “only Gretzky and Lemieux have more or higher” attached to many of his accomplishments.

And when it all takes is a single Cup win for the script to flip overnight, yeah, he’s already there.

 

[Voight]

In no particular order:

Crosby
Ovechkin
Hasek
Jagr
Lidstrom
Roy

I'd swap Lidstrom with Bourque but not a bad list.

 

[Beliveau]

In no particular order:

Crosby
Ovechkin
Hasek
Jagr
Lidstrom
Roy

I'd swap OV with Bourque but not a bad list.

 

[Hippasus]

That’s what happens when a player like McDavid comes in and within just eight seasons, made sure he only trailed Gretzky, Lemieux, and Howe in individual hardware like the Hart, Lindsay (Pearson), and Art Ross, and through ten seasons, frequently has the tag “only Gretzky and Lemieux have more or higher” attached to many of his accomplishments.

And when it all takes is a single Cup win for the script to flip overnight, yeah, he’s already there.

To be fair, the Lindsay wasn't awarded until 1970-71 while the Art Ross goes back to 1947-48.

 

[Video Nasty]

To be fair, the Lindsay wasn't awarded until 1970-71 while the Art Ross goes back to 1947-48.

We can retroactively grant those trophies and it wouldn’t change anything. Only Gretzky, Lemieux, and Howe have led in points more. Howe would likely have 5 Pearsons/Lindsays, so McDavid would still only trail Gretzky and Howe there.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Crosby
Hasek
Makarov
Lidstrom
Hutson