Who are the top 10 teams of the 20’s so far?

[Aashir Mallik]

Consistent playoff team might not be the right word at ~50%

They’ve made it comfortably every year over the timeline that is being presented. Also have the tied longest playoff streak (can’t wait for the obvious “but then what happens” response)

If that isn’t consistent then no team in the league is consistently a playoff team.

 

[Golden_Jet]

They’ve made it comfortably every year over the timeline that is being presented. Also have the tied longest playoff streak (can’t wait for the obvious “but then what happens” response)

If that isn’t consistent then no team in the league is consistently a playoff team.

Ahh I read it wrong I guess, was thinking it was from 2000’s

 

[Byron Bitz]

To much weight on regular season.
Maybe give playoff series wins or playoff wins a much stronger weight.

Playoff wins

Most Playoff Wins Since 2000 NHL | StatMuse

Since 1999-00, the Tampa Bay Lightning have the most wins by a team in the playoffs, with 122 wins.

www.statmuse.com

The stats you posted are from 2000 onward. This thread is about the 20’s.

I think this is the list you are looking for.

Team With The Most NHL Playoff Wins Since 2020 | StatMuse

Since 2019-20, the Tampa Bay Lightning have the most wins by a team in the playoffs, with 51 wins.

www.statmuse.com

 

[Golden_Jet]

The stats you posted are from 2000 onward. This thread is about the 20’s.

I think this is the list you are looking for.

Team With The Most NHL Playoff Wins Since 2020 | StatMuse

Since 2019-20, the Tampa Bay Lightning have the most wins by a team in the playoffs, with 51 wins.

www.statmuse.com

I did, Scroll up one post

 

[Byron Bitz]

Scroll up one post

Ah I see, the playoff wins list doesnt look as good with Stars above Panthers and Islanders above Bruins and Rangers.

 

[AvroArrow]

Consistent playoff team might not be the right word at ~50%

What ? lol They've literally made the playoffs every single year ?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

1) Tampa
2) Florida
3) Vegas
4) Colorado
5) Boston
6) Edmonton
7) New York Rangers
8) Carolina
9) Dallas
10) Toronto


They are right around the 10 range, lowest I'd put them is maybe 13 but consistent playoff team that had some tough series.

I think they’re out of the top 10 based on having only one series win

Even Montreal has had a finals run and an additional 2nd round appearance in this span

 

[AvroArrow]

I think they’re out of the top 10 based on having only one series win

Even Montreal has had a finals run and an additional 2nd round appearance in this span

I'm ok if you have them out of the top 10, to me the playoff series context matters. They didn't lose to scrubs

Lost to Montreal, who made the finals
Lost to Tampa, who made the finals,
Lost to Florida who made the finals

3 years in a row the team that beat them went on to the cup final, as we all know Tampa has 2 cups, Florida has 1 cup and 2 appearances. To me those series were a lot more difficult than what certain teams in the West/Metro dealt with but that's a different discussion.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I'm ok if you have them out of the top 10, to me the playoff series context matters. They didn't lose to scrubs

Lost to Montreal, who made the finals
Lost to Tampa, who made the finals,
Lost to Florida who made the finals

3 years in a row the team that beat them went on to the cup final, as we all know Tampa has 2 cups, Florida has 1 cup and 2 appearances. To me those series were a lot more difficult than what certain teams in the West/Metro dealt with but that's a different discussion.

This is a good and very fair point

Out of curiosity, if you have them lowest 13th, which teams are ahead of them from 12-10?

 

[AvroArrow]

This is a good and very fair point

Out of curiosity, if you have them lowest 13th, which teams are ahead of them from 12-10?

Maybe

10) New York Islanders
11) Winnipeg
12) New Jersey

I wouldn't put them ahead but there are arguments that could be made for any of them

My honest opinion, if Tampa doesn't LTIR, the Islanders win the cup in 2021. That went 7 games, also the Isles made the ECF and lost in 7 I believe the year before that as well

Winnipeg has been a good playoff team in that time + one of the best goalies in the world at that time

New Jersey I don't think really has an argument but they've been a decent team in that team

I still put Toronto ahead in the 2020's but all are in that similar 10-13 range

 

[TheOrangeDesk]

Habs over Leafs.

One SC Finals appearance, one President's Trophy runner-up season for the Habs.(Edit: My bad. I initially read it as since 2000...not 2020. Still, really doesn't change anything. The Habs have been demonstratedly more successful.)

Zero meaningful successes for the Leafs. Multiple playoff chances only to expose themselves as 'Cup pretenders year after year.

I hate the leafs but sorry this is ridiculous. Habs have been hot garbage in the 2020s besides a fluke covid season playoff run. Leafs have made the playoffs every season and Habs have missed pretty much every season

 

[SheldonJPlankton]

I hate the leafs but sorry this is ridiculous. Habs have been hot garbage in the 2020s besides a fluke covid season playoff run. Leafs have made the playoffs every season and Habs have missed pretty much every season

50 percent of the league(or more) have made the playoffs during those years. Making multiple playoffs is a pedestrian accomplishment. Making the Stanley Cup finals once is much more meaningful.

 

[TheOrangeDesk]

50 percent of the league(or more) have made the playoffs during those years. Making multiple playoffs is a pedestrian accomplishment. Making the Stanley Cup finals once is much more meaningful.

Thank you for the irrelevant stat. I said leafs made playoffs every year during 2020's. If you wanted to follow conversation look up how many teams have done that

1 fluke run during covid which barely counts doesn't make up for 3 garbage Years. Even the year they made that run they barely got into playoffs

 

[SheldonJPlankton]

Thank you for the irrelevant stat. I said leafs made playoffs every year during 2020's. If you wanted to follow conversation look up how many teams have done that

1 fluke run during covid which barely counts doesn't make up for 3 garbage Years. Even the year they made that run they barely got into playoffs

7 teams have made the playoffs every season since 2020. Edmonton, Florida, Carolina, Colorado, Tampa, Boston and Toronto.

In contrast, 7 teams have been SC finalists during that stretch. Tampa(x3), Florida(x2), Edmonton, Vegas, Colorado, Dallas and Montreal.

 

[Aurinko]

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I'd personally only use playoff wins and I'd swap Edmonton and Vegas since Vegas won a cup. Highlighted is a cup winner.

I'd go with Panthers as well... Feels like it's going to age better than declaring 20's a Lightning decade.

 

[TheOrangeDesk]

7 teams have made the playoffs every season since 2020. Edmonton, Florida, Carolina, Colorado, Tampa, Boston and Toronto.

In contrast, 7 teams have been SC finalists during that stretch. Tampa(x3), Florida(x2), Edmonton, Vegas, Colorado, Dallas and Montreal.

Interesting,
Tampa, Florida, Colorado, edmonton on both lists. Vegas and missed playoffs once. Montreal 3 times. I'd Montreal as least impressive out of all these teams personally as we are talking about success over several years and not just one season. Sustained success matters

 

[KrisLetAngry]

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I'd personally only use playoff wins and I'd swap Edmonton and Vegas since Vegas won a cup. Highlighted is a cup winner.

Honestly this list is super close to what my top 10 would be.

Swap Vegas and Edmonton


Swap Hurricanes and Rangers

I leave Toronto as 10th

Hm to Isles.

 

[benfranklin]

Colorado
Florida
Tampa
Knights

I put an * on the covid seasons which were Tampa's two championships. Then huge drop off for the rest simply for not winning Cups

Bruins
Hurricanes
Rangers
Oilers
Stars
Leafs

 

[SheldonJPlankton]

Interesting,
Tampa, Florida, Colorado, edmonton on both lists. Vegas and missed playoffs once. Montreal 3 times. I'd Montreal as least impressive out of all these teams personally as we are talking about success over several years and not just one season. Sustained success matters

Interesting,
Tampa, Florida, Colorado, edmonton on both lists. Vegas and missed playoffs once. Montreal 3 times. I'd Montreal as least impressive out of all these teams personally as we are talking about success over several years and not just one season. Sustained success matters

Of those 7 teams who have made the playoffs since 2020, Boston has been a two-time President's Trophy winner...Leaving just Carolina and Toronto as the teams without a regular season/conference/Stanley Cup championship...with Carolina having a PT runner-up season and three seasons finishing the regular season third overall.

Accomplishments matter. There are no Trophies for being modestly above-average.
Toronto is the weakest team listed by far.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Is this more soccer-mentality? How on earth are the Bruins and Canes higher than the Knights and Panthers???

Top teams win championships. The Bruins haven’t made it past the 2nd round since the blew it in the 2019 SCF. The Canes made it the ECF once this decade and got swept. Regular season points means little to nothing beyond playoff seeding.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

To much weight on regular season.
Maybe give playoff series wins or playoff wins a much stronger weight.

Playoff wins

Most Playoff Wins Since 2000 NHL | StatMuse

Since 1999-00, the Tampa Bay Lightning have the most wins by a team in the playoffs, with 122 wins.

www.statmuse.com

Yeah, somebody with the spare time calculate this for the 20s and let us know where it comes out.

Wins SCF ..... 5
Loses SCF ..... 4
Loses CF ..... 3
Loses 2R ..... 2
Loses 1R ....- 1

IMHO, the regular season is already appropriately factored into this, since (1) you have to be in the top-half of teams in a given year to even get into the playoffs to gain any points at all, and (2) the better a team did in the regular season means they got a better seating in the playoffs and so probably went deeper than middlin' or bubble teams and thus collected more points.

 

[hangman005]

We've has a decent record for the 20's 1 Cup, 2 Conference Finals exits. 1 first round exit and 1 miss. In fact the only thing Vegas haven't done since they entered the league is lose in the 2nd round

 

[SheldonJPlankton]

Yeah, somebody with the spare time calculate this for the 20s and let us know where it comes out.

Wins SCF ..... 5
Loses SCF ..... 4
Loses CF ..... 3
Loses 2R ..... 2
Loses 1R ....- 1

IMHO, the regular season is already appropriately factored into this, since (1) you have to be in the top-half of teams in a given year to even get into the playoffs to gain any points at all, and (2) the better a team did in the regular season means they got a better seating in the playoffs and so probably went deeper than middlin' or bubble teams and thus collected more points.

The Leafs and others failed to qualify for 1R in the 2020 playoffs.

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

I tried to think of a good metric to determine the top 10 teams of the 20’s so far. Best i could think of was looking at which teams have won the most games in both regular season and playoffs. Here are the top 10 teams for combined regular season and playoff wins since 2020. Do you think this stat accurately represents the best teams of the 20’s? Which team(s) in the top 10 dont belong there and who would you replace them with?

1. Avalanche
2. Lightning
3. Bruins
4. Hurricanes
5. Panthers
6. Golden Knights
7. Oilers
8. Stars
9. Rangers
10. Leafs

I think that accomplishments are a factor as well. The Panthers have won 2 division titles, a President's Trophy, been to the SCF twice, and won a Stanley Cup. IMO that puts them ahead of Boston and Carolina, at least. And I'd put them ahead of the Avalanche too.