Whitecloud hit on Knies | Knies did not return to the game.

[Bounces R Way]

fans have gotten so soft

Not every hit that involves head contact is a penalty. In fact most of them aren't.

 

[HarrisonFord]

Didn't catch his take

Head contact was avoidable. Not as bad as the Reaves hit. Should have been a major penalty, no suspension

 

[Mrfenn92]

Post the hit, maybe

 

[HofT]

fans have gotten so soft

Not every hit that involves head contact is a penalty. In fact most of them aren't.

What the difference between Reaves' hit and this one?

 

[Sal Iaccuzzo]

Hockey hits are hard sometimes

Sometimes to the head too

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Head contact was avoidable. Not as bad as the Reaves hit. Should have been a major penalty, no suspension

I could see the refs calling it a major, minor, or as they did, because I don't think they have a clear rule.

 

[Albz]

This was a clean hit, we are at a point where these players aren't keeping their heads up anymore because they feel safe they won't get hit because of how the league has become so soft.... you can see kniies look up than puts his head down and boom....

 

[Future]

Post the hit, maybe

https://x.com/i/web/status/1859416137118674968

 

[Bgav]

How is anyone saying it’s clean, he clearly jumps into the hit

 

[Mrfenn92]

Hopefully knies is alright

 

[HarrisonFord]

I could see the refs calling it a major, minor, or as they did, because I don't think they have a clear rule.

If I’m a ref, if it’s a hit like that where a penalty is warranted, I’d call one at least for game management. If this becomes a circus or someone else gets hurt, that’s on the officiating crew for not cooling the temperature of the game down by calling one

 

[Pablo El Perro]

If I’m a ref, if it’s a hit like that where a penalty is warranted, I’d call one at least for game management. If this becomes a circus or someone else gets hurt, that’s on the officiating crew for not cooling the temperature of the game down by calling one

It's on the league, is my point. They need to have a clear standard for these reviews. And I think it was at least a minor.

 

[HarrisonFord]

It's on the league, is my point. They need to have a clear standard for these reviews. And I think it was at least a minor.

Needs to be a consistent standard. A month from now, that hit could be a major and a 2 game suspension

 

[Contenderorpretender]

That's just a solid hit. If knies did that, we'd all be cheering.....parros would probably suspend him though.

 

[Bounces R Way]

What the difference between Reaves' hit and this one?

Reaves got nothing but Nurse's chin coming North South across a player travelling East West. I don't think it was overly malicious and personally thought 5 games was a bit much but he totally missed center mass and picked the head. Being old big and clumsy will do that to ya.

This one Whitecloud hits Knies center mass. Is it hard and violent? Yes it is. That's still one of the big draws of the NHL.

48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A hit resulting in contact with an opponent’s head where the head was the main point of contact and such contact to the head was avoidable is not permitted.

In determining whether contact with an opponent's head was avoidable, the circumstances of the hit including the following shall be considered:
(i) Whether the player attempted to hit squarely through the opponent’s body and the head was not "picked" as a result of poor timing, poor angle of approach, or unnecessary extension of the body upward or outward.
(ii) Whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position by assuming a posture that made head contact on an otherwise full body check unavoidable.
(iii) Whether the opponent materially changed the position of his body or head immediately prior to or simultaneously with the hit in a way that significantly contributed to the head contact.

The head was not picked here, and Whitecloud attempted and succeeded to hit squarely through the opponent's body.

 

[Bender Duster]

NHL is so biased towards the Leafs.

It’s really an NHL policy quagmire…policy 1.0 says favour Leafs at all times, but the notwithstanding clause, policy 1.0(1) says favour Vegas at all times.

You can understand the confusion amongst the referees and fans…

 

[v00d00daddy]

Cosentino and Colby both said he didn’t leave his feet lol

 

[paulmm3]

Whitecould hit for me is clearly 2 for charging since he jumps with both feet into it. Initial point of contact maybe a little more shoulder than head for me, but still charging

 

[Tobias Kahun]

White cloud hits through the body. Not even close to the same

 

[Incognito]

Definitely looks like the head is the main point of contact. It's not the worst hit I've seen lately, but it's not exactly clean either. I'm mostly just baffled by how the Leafs were somehow the ones to end up on the penalty kill as a result of this ...

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Cosentino and Colby both said he didn’t leave his feet lol

Looks like feet leave the ice after contact.

 

[Master P]

Keep your head up.



Getting a lot of mileage outta this one.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Leafs should’ve came out in support of the Rangers a couple years back when they released that statement about Paros. Only chance for meaningful change was to get behind that.

I loved that they did that.

Can't imagine Rogers/Bell allowing it though.

 

[v00d00daddy]

Looks like feet leave the ice after contact.

So knies’ body elevated him? Lol

 

[HofT]

Reaves got nothing but Nurse's chin coming North South across a player travelling East West. I don't think it was overly malicious and personally thought 5 games was a bit much but he totally missed center mass and picked the head. Being old big and clumsy will do that to ya.

This one Whitecloud hits Knies center mass. Is it hard and violent? Yes it is. That's still one of the big draws of the NHL.



The head was not picked here, and Whitecloud attempted and succeeded to hit squarely through the opponent's body.

Whitecloud as well got Knies sideface/chin while jumping. But I agree, we need more of these types of hits. Which is why the Reaves penalty and suspension was soft. Why call something like that when Nurse was floating, head down and was lacking spatial awareness? It sets a precedent that discourages physical play.