Whitecloud hit on Knies | Knies did not return to the game.

Albz

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This was a clean hit, we are at a point where these players aren't keeping their heads up anymore because they feel safe they won't get hit because of how the league has become so soft.... you can see kniies look up than puts his head down and boom....
 
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HarrisonFord

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I could see the refs calling it a major, minor, or as they did, because I don't think they have a clear rule.
If I’m a ref, if it’s a hit like that where a penalty is warranted, I’d call one at least for game management. If this becomes a circus or someone else gets hurt, that’s on the officiating crew for not cooling the temperature of the game down by calling one
 

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If I’m a ref, if it’s a hit like that where a penalty is warranted, I’d call one at least for game management. If this becomes a circus or someone else gets hurt, that’s on the officiating crew for not cooling the temperature of the game down by calling one
It's on the league, is my point. They need to have a clear standard for these reviews. And I think it was at least a minor.
 
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Bounces R Way

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What the difference between Reaves' hit and this one?

Reaves got nothing but Nurse's chin coming North South across a player travelling East West. I don't think it was overly malicious and personally thought 5 games was a bit much but he totally missed center mass and picked the head. Being old big and clumsy will do that to ya.

This one Whitecloud hits Knies center mass. Is it hard and violent? Yes it is. That's still one of the big draws of the NHL.

48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A hit resulting in contact with an opponent’s head where the head was the main point of contact and such contact to the head was avoidable is not permitted.

In determining whether contact with an opponent's head was avoidable, the circumstances of the hit including the following shall be considered:
(i) Whether the player attempted to hit squarely through the opponent’s body and the head was not "picked" as a result of poor timing, poor angle of approach, or unnecessary extension of the body upward or outward.
(ii) Whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position by assuming a posture that made head contact on an otherwise full body check unavoidable.
(iii) Whether the opponent materially changed the position of his body or head immediately prior to or simultaneously with the hit in a way that significantly contributed to the head contact.

The head was not picked here, and Whitecloud attempted and succeeded to hit squarely through the opponent's body.
 

paulmm3

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Whitecould hit for me is clearly 2 for charging since he jumps with both feet into it. Initial point of contact maybe a little more shoulder than head for me, but still charging
 

Incognito

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Definitely looks like the head is the main point of contact. It's not the worst hit I've seen lately, but it's not exactly clean either. I'm mostly just baffled by how the Leafs were somehow the ones to end up on the penalty kill as a result of this ...
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