Which record breaking accomplishment would be the most impressive? 82 game point streak, 30 shutouts, or 70 goals by a defenseman?

[Felidae]

Just a dumb hypothetical thread for fun in the offseason..

Assuming all of this happens in the current era of hockey, which of these records would be the most impressive?

Previous point streak record: 51 points by Gretzky in 1983-84

Previous shutout record: 22 by Hainsworth in 1926.
Most this century is 12 shutouts by Brodeur.

Previous goalscoring record by a defenseman: 48 goals by Paul Coffey

 

[Felidae]

Forgot to add the last bit for the 5th option. Its 70 goals by a dman>30 shutouts>82 game point streak

 

[Hippasus]

Would the 82 game point streak be all in a single season?

 

[Felidae]

Would the 82 game point streak be all in a single season?

Yes cause I assume it wouldn't even be an official record if it extended to the next season?

All of the official streak records happened in one season if I'm not mistaken (other than the ironman streak)

 

[Idiot Stick]

with offense goin up in general id say 30 shutouts by an ekblad waistline mile

 

[Hippasus]

with offense goin up in general id say 30 shutouts by an ekblad waistline mile

Give it 10 years and the league environment could be totally different. There were three scoring environments from 2004-10.

 

[Idiot Stick]

Give it 10 years and the league environment could be totally different. There were three scoring environments from 2004-10.

i dunno, goalies playing most of the season are kinda getting rarer it seems
45 goalies broke over 30 games started
30 over 40
20 over 50
5 over 60

Playoff monster Hellebuyck had 8 shutouts in another vezina season and he started 62 games

Most goalies dont even have 30 shutouts in their career
Boobtitsky has like 49 and hes been in the league forever, Vasi on some great tampa teams has 40 in his entire career

A goalie hitting 15 shutouts would be more impressive than a defenseman hitting 60 goals to me

 

[Hippasus]

i dunno, goalies playing most of the season are kinda getting rarer it seems
45 goalies broke over 30 games started
30 over 40
20 over 50
5 over 60

Playoff monster Hellebuyck had 8 shutouts in another vezina season and he started 62 games

Most goalies dont even have 30 shutouts in their career
Boobtitsky has like 49 and hes been in the league forever, Vasi on some great tampa teams has 40 in his entire career

A goalie hitting 15 shutouts would be more impressive than a defenseman hitting 60 goals to me

Since you put it that way, 30 shutouts does seem rather improbable. If I could, I'd change my vote to 30 shutouts>70 goals>82 game point streak.

 

[Felidae]

Since you put it that way, 30 shutouts does seem rather improbable. If I could, I'd change my vote to 30 shutouts>70 goals>82 game point streak.

The option to change your vote is on

 

[Hippasus]

The option to change your vote is on

Thank you.

 

[centipede2233]

i dunno, goalies playing most of the season are kinda getting rarer it seems
45 goalies broke over 30 games started
30 over 40
20 over 50
5 over 60

Playoff monster Hellebuyck had 8 shutouts in another vezina season and he started 62 games

Most goalies dont even have 30 shutouts in their career
Boobtitsky has like 49 and hes been in the league forever, Vasi on some great tampa teams has 40 in his entire career

A goalie hitting 15 shutouts would be more impressive than a defenseman hitting 60 goals to me

Yeah I agree, goalies aren’t playing 60+ games as the norm anymore. 10 shutouts in a season would be amazing, 30 would be insanity

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

30 > 70 > 82

I don't think it's much of a debate but the shutouts and D goalscoring is closer than the goal scoring is to 82 game point streak.

 

[SavBigMoneyAtBedards]

Shutouts is #1 of course.
Even at 25 it would be #1.

Nobody has come anywhere close.
Esposito had 15 in 1970.
Hasek had 13 in 1998.

Two of the greatest single goaltending seasons in history, not even close to 25 or 30.

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

Without thinking too much about it, 82 game point streak is last clearly

 

[bambamcam4ever]

I don't think the 70 goal season is as impressive comparatively. You can have a guy that may line up as a D but is in all but name the 4th forward.

Why Brent Burns did not deserve his Norris.

 

[nbwingsfan]

I would imagine 82 game streak is by far the easiest. Could actually see it happening

Toss up between the other two, will never happen as the game is played today.

 

[Gains]

To me, by far the most impressive is a defenseman scoring 70 goals. It’s the only one of the three that’s undeniably historic, no matter how you look at it.

If a goalie has 30 shutouts but only plays 60 games and gives up 5 goals in the other 30, his GAA is still 2.5. The shutouts are impressive, but the overall season might not be legendary.

Same with the 82-game point streak. It’s a cool stat, but if it’s just one point per game, that’s 82 points total, which is good, but not unheard of. But a defenseman scoring 70 goals? That’s one of the best goal-scoring seasons ever, forwards included. Even if he had zero assists, it would still be an all-time great offensive season, and doing that from the blue line is just absurd.

 

[NyQuil]

If you look at shutouts in a season, and discount the top half of the record books because they are all in that 1927-1955 timescale or so, you're looking at Hasek with 13 SO in a whopping 72 games played, and Bernie Parent and Martin Brodeur with 12 SO apiece in 73 GP and 78 GP respectively.

All of the seasons below that are still in the high 60s for GP.

The trend appears to be for goalies to be playing fewer games, so it seems that much more unlikely. Also, without ties, there's a much better chance of blowing a shutout in 3 on 3 OT.

In any event, you are looking at around a ~230% increase over the existing record.

The record for defensive goals in a season is Paul Coffey's 48 goals in 79 GP, followed up by a combination of Orr and Coffey aside from Wilson's 39 goal season.

To get to 70, you are looking at around ~46% increase over the existing record.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

I feel like 70 goals by a dman, while ludicrous and basically unachievable, could theoretically be done by a player who was a defenseman in name only.

I’m picturing someone that starts off the faceoff in the defensive position but then functions as F1, F2 or F3 while leaving one “forward” to cover defensive duties.

And then this freaky pseudo-dman also plays flank on the PP1 unit and blasts home a stupid number of one timers.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

I would imagine 82 game streak is by far the easiest. Could actually see it happening

Toss up between the other two, will never happen as the game is played today.

Record point streak is 51 games, Gretzky did it in 1983-84. That was one of the highest scoring seasons in NHL history, with teams averaging nearly 4 goals per game.

Then you have Lemieux who pulled off 46 games in 1989-90, and then Gretzky had a 39 game streak in 1985-86. No one in recent years has even come close to those streaks. Most people remember Patrick Kane’s streak about ten years ago, even that (26 games) was just barely half of Gretzky’s record.

So while I agree it’s probably the likeliest of those three scenarios, I also don’t see it happening without a radical shift in how the game is played.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Record point streak is 51 games, Gretzky did it in 1983-84. That was one of the highest scoring seasons in NHL history, with teams averaging nearly 4 goals per game.

Then you have Lemieux who pulled off 46 games in 1989-90, and then Gretzky had a 39 game streak in 1985-86. No one in recent years has even come close to those streaks. Most people remember Patrick Kane’s streak about ten years ago, even that (26 games) was just barely half of Gretzky’s record.

So while I agree it’s probably the likeliest of those three scenarios, I also don’t see it happening without a radical shift in how the game is played.

Im not saying it’s likely, but given the three options, it’s by far the most realistic.